Snow Socks

Zascar

Guys is there anywhere you can get these in shops in Dublin, or if you order on micksgarage how long does delivery take?

Vanbis

Zascar wrote: »

Guys is there anywhere you can get these in shops in Dublin, or if you order on micksgarage how long does delivery take?

Atlas in Baldoyle had them in stock but id ring just to be sure, they are opposite Tom Walsh motors. I've noticed a lot more cars with them the last two days.

rx8

I'd say delivery is probably out of the question at this stage, but you can call in to them in Park West if they have your size in stock !

R.O.R

Fast Fit outlets are stocking the Weiss socks.

Whether there are any left is another matter. They seem to be out of stock most of the time for some reason.............

GTE

I got a different brand to the Weiss ones in B&Q the day before yesterday if it is any help.

MMA_FAN

Check this out...!!! I totally agree with this guy, i bought a set of the socks and only have had them on for 3 days and have only travelled 40miles in total at a top speed of 15mph, they did the job top but aren't durable, as THE SAME HAPPENED TO MY SET....!!!! PS i live in Donegal....!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hatpiEjQIo

Biglad

Snow socks are not designed for regular winter driving on mixed roads, why do people not comprehend this, I find this very strange.

I'd rather throw 35 euro at a cheap winter remold and it breaks my heart saying that.

AntiVirus

My sister took me down to the shops in her 3 series BMW and had nothing but good things to say about them. I was very impressed at how easy it was to get the car moving and how it handled.

She's only had them on the car for one day so time will tell how quickly they wear. You only put them on for untreated roads and take them off when you don't need them.

I'll be getting a set just so I can get home for christmas!

MMA_FAN

just want to clarify...!! i have a BMW, and tink that they are a good job, but just not durable enough....!!!

"Snow socks are not designed for regular winter driving on mixed roads, why do people not comprehend this, I find this very strange. I'd rather throw 35 euro at a cheap winter remold and it breaks my heart saying that"

And as for the mixed road use...!!! Donegal's roads have been compacted with at least 3in of snow and ice (main roads) for the last 5 days...!!! does anywhere do a winter remold tyre for a set of 18in rims...???

I will more than likely invest in another set but prob of a different brand to see how they wear...!!!!!

neilthefunkeone

i got hit with a snow sock(well my car did).. thing shredded off the wheel of a passing car on the m50....

What about someting like these??


http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002VX55VI?tag=serrechevalie-21&camp=1406&creative=6394&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B002VX55VI&adid=0ED2YDBTRQHS05WQ2REN&

Saw these in use on a discovey in about 2 feet of snow up the mountians.. so quick to put on and take off.. way stronger than socks and safer than chains!

Tabnabs

I have been using the snow socks in the right conditions for the last month around Dublin. Not a scratch or a thread loose on them.

However, I am using them the way they are designed to be used, i.e. if you see bare tarmac, either slow down to a crawl or pull over and remove them. If you travel on the M50 you will most likely rip them to shreds. Stick to the minor roads.

I dread to think what the commute would have been like over the last while if I didn't have them. I can drive through deep snow, up hills etc. etc. without any problems. They are an alternative to chains, not winter tyres.

cjmcork

Dyflin wrote: »

I have been using the snow socks in the right conditions for the last month around Dublin. Not a scratch or a thread loose on them.

However, I am using them the way they are designed to be used, i.e. if you see bare tarmac, either slow down to a crawl or pull over and remove them. If you travel on the M50 you will most likely rip them to shreds. Stick to the minor roads.

I dread to think what the commute would have been like over the last while if I didn't have them. I can drive through deep snow, up hills etc. etc. without any problems. They are an alternative to chains, not winter tyres.

same here - I used them and they were fine, to be fair, I did use them on main roads, but kept my speed down - if anything, they encourage you to drive a bit more cautiously cos you're concerned about ripping them!! but so far so good - touch wood (*knocks on head*)

kennyb3

MMA_FAN wrote: »

just want to clarify...!! i have a BMW, and tink that they are a good job, but just not durable enough....!!!

"Snow socks are not designed for regular winter driving on mixed roads, why do people not comprehend this, I find this very strange. I'd rather throw 35 euro at a cheap winter remold and it breaks my heart saying that"

And as for the mixed road use...!!! Donegal's roads have been compacted with at least 3in of snow and ice (main roads) for the last 5 days...!!! does anywhere do a winter remold tyre for a set of 18in rims...???

I will more than likely invest in another set but prob of a different brand to see how they wear...!!!!!

If you have a bmw (as i do) buy winter tyres - you wont regret it. Mine is driving like normal now, no problems with hill starts. I can now go the back roads and avoid traffic. Why spend another 60-80e on a snow sock (your second) with the chance it may also shred, all the hassle of putting it on/taking off.

False economy really.

Wicklowrider

Heres something interesting.

Man took the trouble to put a well made how-to video of ropes substitute for chains/socks. Looks impressive particularly downhill/uphill where he claims other motors failed. Apologies if its been posted elsewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJKU-zO4hk&feature=related

Tabnabs

kennyb3 wrote: »

If you have a bmw (as i do) buy winter tyres - you wont regret it. Mine is driving like normal now, no problems with hill starts. I can now go the back roads and avoid traffic. Why spend another 60-80e on a snow sock (your second) with the chance it may also shred, all the hassle of putting it on/taking off.

False economy really.

How is it false economy to drive in safety and confidence?

What happens if you rip a winter tyre? Best of luck getting a replacement at the moment! Fancy driving on 3 winter and one summer? Do you know how much hassle it is to store 4 spare tyres properly? What if you live in an apartment or share a house etc.? Then the hassle of changing over and back every year. What happens if you get caught out by bad conditions before you have the tyres on? If you change cars, will the tyres fit the new car?

Winter tyres are excellent for what they are designed to do. Just as snow socks are. But both solutions have their time and place as well as their drawbacks.

By your logic I would be better off with a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7.

PK2008

Wicklowrider wrote: »

Heres something interesting.

Man took the trouble to put a well made how-to video of ropes substitute for chains/socks. Looks impressive particularly downhill/uphill where he claims other motors failed. Apologies if its been posted elsewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJKU-zO4hk&feature=related

Genius, wish I thought of that

kennyb3

Dyflin wrote: »

How is it false economy to drive in safety and confidence?

Dear oh dear i seem to have struck a nerve and you ve missed the point of my post. It is false economy to keep buying snow socks and shredding them by not using them correctly as the poster had said. If you are prepared to spend a second 70e on another snow socks, why not spend 250e in the first place on winter tyres?

Winter tyres that you ll have for a number of years, and that will save your summer tyres and allow you to drive safely on all roads, which the previous poster cant be doing with summer tyres on once they take off the snow socks.

Dyflin wrote: »

What happens if you rip a winter tyre? Best of luck getting a replacement at the moment! Fancy driving on 3 winter and one summer? .

Like with summers - have a spare - even a part worn one just to get you home. A replacement at the moment? Ever heard of planning? Why wait until we are knee deep in snow to do all this?

Dyflin wrote: »

Do you know how much hassle it is to store 4 spare tyres properly? What if you live in an apartment or share a house etc.? Then the hassle of changing over and back every year. What happens if you get caught out by bad conditions before you have the tyres on? If you change cars, will the tyres fit the new car? .

Yeah i know exactly how difficult it is because i ve done it. Is it worth it imo? yeah! i go too and from work now on any road i want with no stress or worries as long as i drive safely. no fears about stopping on hills.

I live in apartment - everybody has a family or a friend who im sure would store them in a shed. There are always solutions.

How will you get caught out if you fit them 1 Nov, unless your going to suggest it will snow in October next.

Dyflin wrote: »

Winter tyres are excellent for what they are designed to do. Just as snow socks are. But both solutions have their time and place as well as their drawbacks..

Agree with you here. I wasnt telling them they had to get winters, merely suggesting they should based on my experience.

Dyflin wrote: »

By your logic I would be better off with a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7.

Please explain my logic because your statement beats me

Tabnabs

kennyb3 wrote: »

Dear oh dear i seem to have struck a nerve and you ve missed the point of my post. It is false economy to keep buying snow socks and shredding them by not using them correctly as the poster had said. If you are prepared to spend a second 70e on another snow socks, why not spend 250e in the first place on winter tyres?

That's my point, treat them right and you won't have to keep buying snow socks. I have them a month now and they are still going strong. I got quoted by two UK suppliers around the £250 per tyre for my car to keep using the same rims for two different sets of winter tyres. £1000 for less then a dozen days a year? No thanks.

kennyb3 wrote: »

Like with summers - have a spare - even a part worn one just to get you home. A replacement at the moment? Ever heard of planning? Why wait until we are knee deep in snow to do all this?

Because my car like many modern cars doesn't have space for a full spare in the well. Do I sacrifice boot space and another £250?

kennyb3 wrote: »

How will you get caught out if you fit them 1 Nov, unless your going to suggest it will snow in October next.

Who would have thought that November would bring deep snow to Ireland? I have seen first hand of people getting caught out by not having swapped over to winters and having no other back up. It's very easy to advise people to swap over on an arbitrary date, another thing to go out and do it.

kennyb3 wrote: »

Please explain my logic because your statement beats me

Last winter in Norway I drove on winter tyres (Toyota Yaris) and studded tyres (Volvo V70). The studded tyres allowed me to drive on roads that the winters couldn't cope with. So you advise upgrading to suitable tyres to
meet the conditions that we are encountering and by that logic in the current conditions studded tyres would be better again. To me, the socks are sufficient (if treated properly) for the prevailing conditions.

kennyb3

Dyflin wrote: »

That's my point, treat them right and you won't have to keep buying snow socks. I have them a month now and they are still going strong. I got quoted by two UK suppliers around the £250 per tyre for my car to keep using the same rims for two different sets of winter tyres. £1000 for less then a dozen days a year? No thanks. .

Yeah but treating them right involves taking them on and off, we both know the roads are patchy, grand on the motorways and in bits elsewhere.

Using examples of what you got quoted just doesnt cut it. I bought alloys (second hand) and 4 new winters for €550 and i drive a beamer, if id a samller car it would be less again.

Dyflin wrote: »

Because my car like many modern cars doesn't have space for a full spare in the well. Do I sacrifice boot space and another £250?

Yeah some boot space god forbid, and as for 250pound, see my post above. I can get my hands on a part worn with 7mm for 50e for 15inch alloy.

Dyflin wrote: »

Who would have thought that November would bring deep snow to Ireland? I have seen first hand of people getting caught out by not having swapped over to winters and having no other back up. It's very easy to advise people to swap over on an arbitrary date, another thing to go out and do it.

Last time i checked novemeber was winter. And yes you are right people might get caught out for one day but then they can change the next day and drive issue free for 3-4 months of winter/early spring.

Dyflin wrote: »

Last winter in Norway I drove on winter tyres (Toyota Yaris) and studded tyres (Volvo V70). The studded tyres allowed me to drive on roads that the winters couldn't cope with. So you advise upgrading to suitable tyres to meet the conditions that we are encountering and by that logic in the current conditions studded tyres would be better again. To me, the socks are sufficient (if treated properly) for the prevailing conditions.

If socks are sufficient for you i accept that. But when you have them off on slightly slushy or iced roads, you ll have less traction and braking ability than if you had winters.

As for studded we are both intelligent enough to know they are not needed.

Anyway my original post was my suggestion to the poster based on myself being faced with the exact same dilemma of snow socks or winter tyres.

AntiVirus

Summer Tyres? I don't know anyone who's ever bought summer tyres? All weather tyres yes.

Anan1

Dyflin wrote: »

I got quoted by two UK suppliers around the £250 per tyre for my car to keep using the same rims for two different sets of winter tyres. £1000 for less then a dozen days a year? No thanks.

1.) Why not get smaller rims for the winters? I did this and it cost me €800 all-in.
2.) Winter tyres aren't only better in snow & ice.

Biglad

AntiVirus wrote: »

Summer Tyres? I don't know anyone who's ever bought summer tyres? All weather tyres yes.

Your never to old to learn, Summer, Winter, All Seasons, options options

Biglad

Met a vehicle coming from Derry today (road with two cleared tracks tarmac visibly clear), our side was doing about 50-60kmh, he was doing abou 15-20kmh with his snow socks on with a trail of more than 30 vehicles behind him...and yes I counted them but got lost after 30...

Biglad

Dyflin wrote: »

I have been using the snow socks in the right conditions for the last month around Dublin. Not a scratch or a thread loose on them.

However, I am using them the way they are designed to be used, i.e. if you see bare tarmac, either slow down to a crawl or pull over and remove them. If you travel on the M50 you will most likely rip them to shreds. Stick to the minor roads.

I dread to think what the commute would have been like over the last while if I didn't have them. I can drive through deep snow, up hills etc. etc. without any problems. They are an alternative to chains, not winter tyres.

Those are all the right reasons to have/use snow socks, but the problem is the majority of people that I have seen with snow socks all do the opposite and they do drive on tarmac at crawling speeds dictating what speed other road users can drive at, as overtaking is often not possible because of road conditions, or your classified as a d*ckhead when you do because you actually did invest in tyres that can cope with all conditions winter throws at you and you can safely maintain a higher speed.

Putting on snowsocks means you have to look for heavy snow on the road or take them of when hitting tarmac, unfortunately not many people like to get their hands wet and cold and leave them on and we are back at the start of this post. Snowsocks are not a replacement for chains imo as chains can deal with tarmac and black ice on tarmac whilst snowsocks would quickly disintegrate on both those surfaces. I one climbed up to a French ski resort, 17 mile climb at gradients up to 13%, black ice all the way, without my chains I would have had to turnaround.

Snowsocks get you around on snow, no snow, no snowsocks, simple.

traco

Just a comment on these socks, assuming FWD here and fitted to front wheels. As this is a motors forum and most people here are enthusiasts and have an understanding of the physics of driving, please pass this on to firends / colleagues not so mechanically inclined.

If you are using them on icy surfaces, keep your braking gentle and STRAIGHT, touching the brakes mid corner with so much grip at the front and little or none at the rear will have you swapping ends very quickly.

They do work and will get you going but you can't just ignore conditions and drive as normal.

I have warned my other half as she has them fitted for running to shops, school, grandparenst etc all within a few kms.

Thats my public service announcement for the day.

MMA_FAN

alrite guys everone seems to be getting side tracked ere....!!! Wat i originally said was that the socks weren't durable, and they have been used in accordance with the manufacturers instruction.....!!!! plus if anyone from donegal will know the state of the roads up ere are in......!!!!! my set wriped at the seam as shown below......!!!!!! So have a look at these pic...!!!!!!!!!!

Yogabear

In regard to delivery time on socks from Micks Garage if they have them in stock they deliver in about 48 hours.

To those whose socks are wearing out, did you leave them on the car overnight?

Cuddlesworth

Its pretty obvious from a design point of view that these "socks" should be used when winter tyres don't provide enough traction to get safely up or down a hill. You shouldn't be using them for flat plain driving. Fabric of any kind can't take that sort of strain. Chains would be a better option in that regard.

Biglad

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Its pretty obvious from a design point of view that these "socks" should be used when winter tyres don't provide enough traction to get safely up or down a hill. You shouldn't be using them for flat plain driving. Fabric of any kind can't take that sort of strain. Chains would be a better option in that regard.

Proper winter tyres, 4 of them, will do the job, you probably meant summer or all weather tyres in your post?

Skitter0

Avoid if possible the following web site.
www.tyresnowsocks.ie

I ordered some snow socks from them back around the 21st/22nd when micks garage was out of stock & I still have not received them.
They had promised to deliver within 48hrs but I still haven't gotten them. I've been on to them 4-5 times now & they keep saying a courier will be sent out to me but still no sign or contact from courier & its not like I live of the beaten track as I live 2-3 mins from 1 of the stores, your just not aloud to collect as they charge you 10 euro for delivery...

Avoid them, there also know as Atlas tyres

kfk

Skitter0 wrote: »

Avoid if possible the following web site.
www.tyresnowsocks.ie

I ordered some snow socks from them back around the 21st/22nd when micks garage was out of stock & I still have not received them.
They had promised to deliver within 48hrs but I still haven't gotten them. I've been on to them 4-5 times now & they keep saying a courier will be sent out to me but still no sign or contact from courier & its not like I live of the beaten track as I live 2-3 mins from 1 of the stores, your just not aloud to collect as they charge you 10 euro for delivery...

Avoid them, there also know as Atlas tyres

I ordered snow socks from them over 2 weeks ago and was assured that they would be delivered the following day by courier. Nothing arrived the following day so I rang them an was told that an post would deliver the socks after Christmas. I told them that I wished to cancel the order and was put through to another sales person who said the socks would arrive before Christmas by courier. Again no courier. I canceled the order yesterday. Just waiting now to have the money refunded to my card.

Skitter0

I canceled my order just after lunch, they had said this morning they'd ring to organize another deliver time, I waited & waited & never got a call from them. I ended ringing them another 2-3 times speaking to different people each time as the person who deals with the courier was not available.

In the end the person who i spoke too told me that a number of people had canceled there orders as there making a dogs bollox of the delivery's.

Just wondering how long it will be before I get a refund!!

cjmcork

mods, sorry for bumping this thread - quick query hopefully some boardsies might be able to advise on

I've purchased winter tyres and was going to give the mammy my snow socks - I'm on 205/55/R16s but I checked her tyres last night and she's on 205/60/R16s - anyone got any idea if they'll fit the mother's car - I know if I contact a shop that sells them, they'll say that she'll have to buy new ones...........but will they do - it'll be to get her to the local shop about a mile away - cos last year, her car was the most expensive door stop in County Cork!

R.O.R

cjmcork wrote: »

mods, sorry for bumping this thread - quick query hopefully some boardsies might be able to advise on

I've purchased winter tyres and was going to give the mammy my snow socks - I'm on 205/55/R16s but I checked her tyres last night and she's on 205/60/R16s - anyone got any idea if they'll fit the mother's car - I know if I contact a shop that sells them, they'll say that she'll have to buy new ones...........but will they do - it'll be to get her to the local shop about a mile away - cos last year, her car was the most expensive door stop in County Cork!

Unfortunately, according to this it looks like they won't fit. It's giving different codes for the socks for those 2 tyre sizes.

cjmcork

dagnamit!