best type gun to start in airsoft

Nicole22

hand gun
rifle
sniper gun

ill assume off hand, lots would like the idea of sniper rifle but not sure how effictive this would be unless you literally plant yourself some where ?

also in games are you limited to one type gun on you or could you have ak47 and say 9mm sidearm ?

im interested in getting involved in some games but i need advice on what to buy first to get started say €300 to €400 for gun but what about other gear how much should i allow for that

sorry for all questions but im completly new to this
and just since watching some video's and reading up on rules sems like good fun indeed

$kilkenny

i myself was going to start with a sniper but then people said that once people see you or hear you they just mowe you down with thier assault rifles so for me start with an assault rifle,something reliable like a g36c variant or those g&g raiders from QAS,if heard great things about both, but most people start with some sort of M4 including myself with an CA m15 sportline
as for having 2 guns, well first its not a 9mm sidearm ever since most pistols shoot 6mm bbs and yes you can have 2 weapons,i havent come across a site that doesnt let you have 2
i have come across some people that had say a pistol,assault rifle and a shotgun or sniper so its moreless what you can carry
i always was going to get 4 holsters and carry 4 pistols :rolleyes: 2 AEPs and 2 GBB for a bit of a difference
some people use 2 MP5ks as thier side ams where some people use them for their main so thats up to you
theirs a video from "the fort" in scotland and a guy is using 2 g36cs which is a bit OTT for me but its ll down to what you want

as for gear well when you go dont wear camo,a vest yes if you can afford it but try it with no camo to see what its like.... some green clothes works

the sport is fun if you make it fun and dont pull a COD and think you can get 200 times or go off killing everyone
its called a team sport for a reason and working with your team is very fun and interesting!

Nicole22

i see the gun can be battery, spring loaded or co2 which is best and why

looking on this site as for price no gun on this site would be out of price range
http://www.hobbyairsoft.ie

$kilkenny

wel co2 doesnt well in cold weather and has some features different from AEGs but most people use gas pistols,Aegs to me are the best coz all you buy is a battery and charger and dont need gas and can work in any condition unless wet.

spring propelled would be used in most snipers but some are gas or electric and some pistols but theyed be cheap pistols 20 euro or so
im sure other people have other ideas this is just my opinion

$kilkenny

if your looking at a certain site its best to go to the retailer,just look up ricka in the retailers forum here in hobbyairsoft and he will help you out coz thats his website...
other retailers also have sites aswell and its quite interesting what each has

Dogwatch

I would suggest a rifle to start off. This one
http://www.eirsoft.ie/gr15-raider-shorty.html

I recommend this as it is my primary rifle.

It is a very reliable rifle and it is not too heavy.

With the balance of your budget you could get good eye protections
and good ankle high boots.

Visit your nearest retailer (they all have threads here on boards) and handle the various rifles and pistols. See which one YOU prefer and go with that.

It is possible to use this rifle in the sniper role

Good luck with your choice and,

Welcome to Airsoft

Gatling

Firstly welcome to Airsoft , starting out probably best going with a aeg battery powered gun ,M4/ Ak/G36 all with high rates of fire and affordable you can pick up a decent gun from 180e use the rest of your budget for extra mags ,eye protection ,camo and decent footware (fairly important) as for sniping id recommend try before you its not to everybodys taste, it can be fairly rewarding though ,side arms are standard for most of us ,Glocks,1911's ,barettas all down to personal choice prices from 100+e

Nicole22

how do the aeg guns fair on batteries would you need to be carring a few
i do like the idea of a gas one for doing a wet day in rain as this would add more to the whole day in general
if using a sniper gun and im correct in saying you have to call 2bang" for your shot does this not give away your location to other possible enimies in the area you may not of seen or is there a way this is avoided where thr person who simply gets shot relaises there shot and steps out of the game and in doing so keeps the location of the sniper secret so to speak as it would be in a real life situation ?

cheers for all the welcomes and advice im currently browsing through all the different firearms available. there really is a lot to choose from. it odes look like aeg may be best for starter due to just needing pellets and the gun battery and charger + extras required

i assume distance gun can fire and accuracy is a big factor
what of each should i be looking for or best i could expect to get outside of sniper i assume
lots of assumptions on behalf but its a learning curve

evilrobotshane

There's not much to choose between airsoft guns in terms of performance, really. Certainly most gun replicas (like, an AK-47 for example) have versions made by different companies, some of which are decent and some of which are unreliable, but in general a good M4 will perform the same as a good AK will perform the same as a good AUG will perform the same as a good MP5 and so on. The main deciding point is what you like the look and feel of - get your hands on some in a shop or at an airsoft site if at all possible before you buy (you know, you can play at an airsoft site by renting one of their guns, before you splash out on your own kit) and see what feels comfortable, the right weight, and natural to you.

Your first gun should certainly be a battery-operated rifle. Pistols are fun in certain circumstances, likewise sniper rifles and so on, but an AEG (that's the battery-operated rifles) can do everything to some extent.

I think $kilkenny has his facts a bit mixed up about some stuff, but the advice to start with an AEG is correct. And you can use them in lashing rain, by the way. Go into a shop if you can and ask them - they won't steer you wrong (if they're decent - in Dublin I'd recommend Eirsoft or Hobby Airsoft), because they don't want you coming back needing repairs or replacement or refunding because they supplied you with a piece of crap that fell apart when you tried to skirmish with it.

You don't have to yell "bang" when you shoot by the way. The way it works is like the second, more realistic description you gave.

Once you've played a bit you might find yourself wanting a pistol or whatever, but give that time.

airsoftdes

to be honest i would say go to a site and rent an aeg for the day and see if you like the sport first nothing worse than spending 400 euro on gear and you hate the game.
also i would look at buying some stuff here in the adverts section get some good deals there and most of the lads are honest lads.
as for what gun to get its all down to taste go to a shop pick up the gun see if they let you try them out some will let you i know m.i.a do.
and as gatling said allow for boots and good eye protection

$kilkenny

well on batteries most standard batteries will do for 1 days airsofting if you aint going mad but most people use battery that would last 2 days with no charge like a 9.6v 2000mah batttery

when using a sniper you do not have to call bang bang... bang bang is only used when an enemie player is within a certain distance from you and you can take them by surprise...
instead of shooting them you have to call bang bang and they are now killed...
if it happens with a sniper you have to do it like bang(a few seconds to reload and then bang again)
or if you have a dummy knife just go and pretend to stab them


only thing really needed for an aeg at the start is mags,lots of bbs,a decent battery and charger... dont go near the sights as they are a want not a need

if you want more distance well then you'd need a longer gun like an m16 or simlilar,those g&g raiders also come in a longer version the XL one so you have a very accurate and reliable gun.

snipers do have more range but thats down to the fact of most snipers being spring... why it has more im not sure

Villafan6

For a first gun you should probably go for an G&G raider, or another G&G gun simply because they are great guns and very reliable, and AEG is always good to start.

Gatling

if the op is intrested in getting to a site ,i be willing to lend an aeg and a spring powered sniper to use for a few hours , longer barrels dont mean extra range my old TM P9O outranged most M16s/long aegs with higher fps on the field using hop up ajustments alone ,a good hop up rubber and nub with a decent tight bore barrel will give the best ranges

Nicole22

ok ive found this site where i cna rent equipment and give it a go
http://www.airsoftreloaded.ie/index.html
if anyone has any more suggestions where i can give it a go with some mates im very interested ?
will need to be able to rent all ill need there obviously i dont have camo gear at present would i be advised to get some i assume again jeans and hoodies or jumper would stand out a bit much even for first timer

Villafan6

If it's your first time there's no point getting camo, you might as well wear you own clothes, I mean what if you buy camo and then realise you don't like airsoft

also in Dublin there are a few sites, just check the airsoft sites section here, a few are:

Red Barn (Swords)
Fingal airsoft (Stamullen)
Airsoft reloaded (Tallaght)
HRTA airsoft (Ballyboughal)

and a few more I can't think of now

Dogwatch

$kilkenny wrote: »

well on batteries most standard batteries will do for 1 days airsofting if you aint going mad but most people use battery that would last 2 days with no charge like a 9.6v 2000mah batttery

when using a sniper you do not have to call bang bang... bang bang is only used when an enemie player is within a certain distance from you and you can take them by surprise...
instead of shooting them you have to call bang bang and they are now killed...
if it happens with a sniper you have to do it like bang(a few seconds to reload and then bang again)
or if you have a dummy knife just go and pretend to stab them


only thing really needed for an aeg at the start is mags,lots of bbs,a decent battery and charger... dont go near the sights as they are a want not a need

if you want more distance well then you'd need a longer gun like an m16 or simlilar,those g&g raiders also come in a longer version the XL one so you have a very accurate and reliable gun.

snipers do have more range but thats down to the fact of most snipers being spring... why it has more im not sure

Sadly the last 2 paragraphs are not correct

All airsoft rifles have basically the same range, the sniper has no range advantage in airsoft as all are allowed a maximum energy of 1Joule.
Please start with an AEG (airsoft electric gun)if you want to buy anything and slowly progress along the various different accessories.

Villafan6

Completely agree with Dogwatch there.

$kilkenny

i was almost certain my sniper had more range....

dammit sorry about thanks

thanks for correcting me guys

evilrobotshane

Maybe it does, but not because it's a sniper rifle or anything - maybe something to do with the hop-up, barrel, BBs you're using, or whatever, maybe you just got lucky and landed a nice one. It could just as easily happen with an AEG though.

Inari

Woah there's a lot of information here, but it's a little all over the place.

There are 5 main types of gun/RIF in airsoft:
1.) AEG - Electric/Battery powered guns. These come in a wide variety of models, most common are the M4, AK, and G36 varients. When you pull the trigger, you send a current through the motor, which turns the gears, pulling the piston back and sending a puff of air from the cylinder, pushing the BB out of the barrel. AEG's are the gold standard in Airsoft - they are the most common, and have the most information available for fixes and repairs. There is also the largest selection of guns to choose from. They work in most conditions, and are quite reliable. They are definitely a good place to start. Due to being powered by battery, they can take large capacity magazines (300 - 1000's)

2.) GBB Pistols/Side Arms. There are a number of Gas Blow Back pistols around. Your main choice is between an M9 or a 1911. That's pretty much the majority of the market. There are others like the Sig line of pistols, Walther, FN's pistols seem to be becoming more popular etc. The pistols are powered by gas, and there are 3 main types of gas that powers them; 134a/duster gas, Green Gas (Propane + Silicone oil) and CO2. Co2 is the most pressurised, and is the most effective for our climate. It suffers minimal cool down (rapid loss of pressure due to a lower ambient temperature), and is much more consistent. The kick is also much sharper and nicer. It comes at a price, and will wear out parts quicker due to the higher pressures. Most pistols/side-arms are approximately real capacity. This is due to the gas reservoir

3.) NBB - Gas Non-Blow Back. These are quite popular as they can be rather quiet. But it is more so because of how efficient on gas they are. They can fire a much greater volume of BBs due to the fact that no gas is wasted on the blow-back function. There are a few NBB rifles, such as gas shot guns, sniper rifles etc. They use single stack magazines (most commonly)

4.) GBBR; Gas Blow-Back Rifles. These are the new kids on the block (not really...there was classic airsoft, but AEG's erased them effectively) - they are gas-in-mag (mostly), and are available in a few varients. They are limited to real-cap mags due to the gas reservoir, and are growing in popularity, however in our climate, they are still quite limited. They are quite expensive, but offer greater realism (the functioning bolt gives you a sharp kick)

5.) Spring powered - typically bolt action sniper rifles, or pump action shotguns. These offer high reliability and consistency between shots. Magazine capacity is usually not very high due to the manual loading.


You can carry as many guns on you as you want. There is no real limit. Realistically speaking, the weight will start to bog you down. I would personally recommend a good primary (one that you like the look/feel of, that will perform), and a good secondary (for me, it has to be a pistol every time...I love them). I would recommend an AEG, and a CO2 pistol - they are both the most reliable for this climate.

With a budget of €400, you'd want to know what you're buying. So I'd recommend getting out, playing, seeing what style of play you prefer, and picking a gun/RIF that suits. For example, if you like tight-quarters movement, an SMG or smaller barrelled gun is probably best suited. Or if you like longer stand offs, then a longer barrelled gun is probably best for you.

PS: Long barrels are not necessary for range, but they do help accuracy and consistency

Rick Deckard

Hi,

I've ok'd with the mods here to point you in the direction of my add..

Worth a look,

Cheers,

P

Nicole22

cheers for all the info so far think camo wise to start i might get this e-bay item number 140488177221 would do for starting better than normal clothes sure and bargain price
do the job you think ?

so far looking at both an AEG and a sniper rifle
no decision made on either
but gonna get out for a game come early january and give it go for definate
did play around with a hand gun, shotgun and AEG before but just one picked up on a snowboarding holiday in spain no idea about them then certainely not the sport so not worried about not enjoying it had good fun with them.

currently looking to see who does a full metal G&G GR15 raider
any links if allowed on here welcomed

Inari

Give Tony/Siva a call in Eirsoft (they've a thread in the retailers section), or have a look on Eirsoft.ie. They get in a load of G&G stuff, so you should get a good price there.

Are you hell bent on full metal? G&G Raider's bodies are made of a really good nylon-fibre material. They feel great, look great, and are a fraction of the price...and a fraction of the weight. So it may be worth bearing in mind.

Nicole22

whats the difference between the long and short ones if any ?