Tailpiece Wraparound?

nickcave

The coils on the wound strings have separated with the sharp angle at the saddle (visible). However, the break angle at the saddle is almost nothing which is nice. First impression: sounds different; sounds awesome.

y/n?

eoin5

As long as the strings arent hopping on the saddles and buzzing, its holding its tuning and your not breaking any more strings then I dont see why not.

rcaz

eoin5 wrote: »

As long as the strings arent hopping on the saddles and buzzing

I imagine that'd be a problem. Looks even more potentially-problematic than a Jazzmaster/Jaguar.

Parsley

El Pr0n wrote: »

I imagine that'd be a problem. Looks even more potentially-problematic than a Jazzmaster/Jaguar.

but whereas altering the bridge on a jag/jazz to make it playable is a common mod, wrapping around on a gibson tailpiece is the other end of the stick.

i'm drunk and can't articulate very well, but do ya get me?

rcaz

Parsley wrote: »

but whereas altering the bridge on a jag/jazz to make it playable is a common mod, wrapping around on a gibson tailpiece is the other end of the stick.

i'm drunk and can't articulate very well, but do ya get me?

You don't need to alter the bridge on a Jazzmaster to make it playable, you just have to set it up appropriately. The main thing is using the right string guage (these guitars were designed when 11s were 'light'), and that extra tension over the bridge means there's more pressure on the bridge perpendicular to the body. There doesn't seem to be enough of a break angle over that bridge to help...

68 lost souls

I would also imagine there are weird pressures being applied to the tail piece as the strings are designed to hold the tailpiece on and it is being twisted back and up with this setup.

Squidgy Black

surely that's gonna put extra tension on the neck and warp it.

and wraparound bridges normally have little cuts on them like saddles, so the strings on his bridge more than likely will slip and tuning will be s***e

nickcave

El Pr0n wrote: »

I imagine that'd be a problem. Looks even more potentially-problematic than a Jazzmaster/Jaguar.

The saddle is just low enough to avert that problem I think. Any higher and the strings would be sliding in the bridge during bends etc.

68 lost souls wrote: »

I would also imagine there are weird pressures being applied to the tail piece as the strings are designed to hold the tailpiece on and it is being twisted back and up with this setup.

I haven't had any breakages yet... I guess your right; the tension at the saddle would create angular force now. Let's hope Mr. Gotoh can handle it.

Anyway, it's a nice new feel. I would recommend trying it.

-Chris-

I've done this for ages and there are no side effects. I'm not sure of the benefits either, but it's gotta be good for some mojo at the very least.

rcaz

nickcave wrote: »

The saddle is just low enough to avert that problem I think. Any higher and the strings would be sliding in the bridge during bends etc.

Yeah, but with any sort of hard strumming you could make them jump out of the notches.

-Chris-

Never happened. Big bends, hard hits. Nothing.

eoin5

El Pr0n wrote: »

Yeah, but with any sort of hard strumming you could make them jump out of the notches.

Its unlikely to happen on single notch saddles like the tune-o-matics. On the jag/jazzmaster standard type ones it can happen alright. It happens on my jazz bass playing slap when I catch the G awkwardly on a pop and I can never remember which bloody slot the string was on, tempted to get the single slot ones but again with the whole mojo thing...

RC88

a mate of mine tried that and got a 2 inch gash on his hand for doing it when the strings snapped at the tailpiece
why not just get a wraparound designed tailpiece less chance of strings snapping and and sounds good as well;)

-Chris-

I don't think that would work on an LP. You'd need to drill two new mounting holes.

Also, you can't adjust the saddles individually, so not as good.

RC88

-Chris- wrote: »

I don't think that would work on an LP. You'd need to drill two new mounting holes.

Also, you can't adjust the saddles individually, so not as good.

dunno, seen a few LPs with a wraparound tailpiece, but then these are made more for LP jrs, guess its kinda a marmite situation, some might prefer a wraparound tailpiece others don't