Pupy progress

pachey100

She is coming along nicely killed her first rat the other day it was a small one though. She is heeling,recalling and sitting on command most of the time and even set up two pheasants the other day. I did not shoot them of course.
And she is not gun shy.

kildare.17hmr

Nice lookin pup there lad, how old is she?

pachey100

She is about three and a half months now.

round tower huntsman

fine looking pup.

blackstairsboy

Just wondering what breed of dog is it? Looks big and strong for 3 and a half months;)

pachey100

she is fairly good mix the father was a bull terrier greyhound cross and the mother was a collie hound cross. She might be a bit more than three and half months old the guy who I bought her from thought she was 2 months when I got her.

Any body else have this kind of cross around here?

blackstairsboy

You cannot beat a dog like that for all round hunting. Looks like you have a jack of all trades there and should enjoy pursuing all quarry.;)

Greensout

blackstairsboy wrote: »

You cannot beat a dog like that for all round hunting. Looks like you have a jack of all trades there and should enjoy pursuing all quarry.;)

In my experience you are wasting your time hunting a all round dog if you are going to do the job do it properly and use a terrier for foxing springers on phesant etc. Hunting is a traditional sport and traditional dogs should be used otherwise we will lose the spirit and the magic of this beautiful pasttime of ours. I see you are new to hunting and i think its a real shame that young people like you do not uphold the values and traditions handed down to them and persue a more modernistic approach. I just hope that the NARGC nip this one in the bud before our current heirarchy step down from there positions.

Yours in the true persuit of game.
Greensout

blackstairsboy

I have been shooting and hunting since I was a boy. I personally only hunt with springer spaniels because I am a rough shooter out and out and find the springer most suited to my needs. I am very keen to uphold shooting traditions and customs. I also believe in using the right dog in the right place as I have said before on this forum. I was saying that the lad should enjoy hunting all quarry with that dog as it is a lurcher that is setting pheasants and it should also do all the ordinary lurcher things such as rabbits, rats and maybe a fox as well. It is most likely that the dog will not hunt pheasants as well as a springer because it is not his forte. This though should not stand in his way though because I believe in everyone to their own. Although I personally wouldn't and you wouldn't it is not up to us to decide who should use what dog for what quarry. I respect and agree with your views about preserving shooting traditions and customs.
Just figured out your user name as well and I definitely agree with that:D Greens out;)

pachey100

Greensout wrote: »

In my experience you are wasting your time hunting a all round dog if you are going to do the job do it properly and use a terrier for foxing springers on phesant etc. Hunting is a traditional sport and traditional dogs should be used otherwise we will lose the spirit and the magic of this beautiful pasttime of ours. I see you are new to hunting and i think its a real shame that young people like you do not uphold the values and traditions handed down to them and persue a more modernistic approach. I just hope that the NARGC nip this one in the bud before our current heirarchy step down from there positions.

Yours in the true persuit of game.
Greensout

First let me put you right on the new to hunting thing I am 20 now and have been hunting with terriers and air rifles since I was about 8. I now mainly hunt with rifles and shotguns but I am getting back into using dogs and will be buying a terrier soon after my last one died at the ripe age of 14. If I could have a dog for each type of hunting believe me I would but at the moment that is just not possible.Yes hunting is a traditional sport but some traditions need to be changed. And what do you mean nip this in the bud? who are you to say what goes and what does not?

DonnchaMc

Greensout wrote: »

Hunting is a traditional sport and traditional dogs should be used otherwise we will lose the spirit and the magic of this beautiful pasttime of ours. I see you are new to hunting and i think its a real shame that young people like you do not uphold the values and traditions handed down to them and persue a more modernistic approach. I just hope that the NARGC nip this one in the bud before our current heirarchy step down from there positions.

Yours in the true persuit of game.
Greensout

A little harsh dont you think....
Who says a guy HAS to use a particular breed of dog for anything, surely its just a good idea to use a certin breed. A guy cant just try and make do with what hes got till something better comes along or he finds his feet.

Tradition is great, im a big believer in it with regards all walks of life. But NEW ideas isnt always the end. how else would we have the things we have today

round tower huntsman

Greensout wrote: »

In my experience you are wasting your time hunting a all round dog if you are going to do the job do it properly and use a terrier for foxing springers on phesant etc. Hunting is a traditional sport and traditional dogs should be used otherwise we will lose the spirit and the magic of this beautiful pasttime of ours. I see you are new to hunting and i think its a real shame that young people like you do not uphold the values and traditions handed down to them and persue a more modernistic approach. I just hope that the NARGC nip this one in the bud before our current heirarchy step down from there positions.


bit of a blinkered view there. my springer will flush and retrieve all fur and feather,will dig rats,mark fox holes,kill foxes. im hunting/shooting for yrs and ive seen dogs of different breeds doing things their reeds arent supposed to do.i expect my terriers to hunt cover and earths.
a good lurcher can be used as a flusher and retriever as well eing used to chase and kill game and vermin.

Spunk84

God such childishness comments :mad: ,who cares if he using a bloody PUG to flush game, as long as it does the job!!!!! Too much snobary amongst shooting/hunting men these days. Best dog I have had for foxes and the other vermin was a Pomaranium cross, I had people laugh their asses off when I was in the field but when the day was over they were offering money for it! :)FACT
Grow up,

Greensout

Dear sirs, You have completely taken me up wrong on my last comment. I was not trying to criticize you or your dog. My point is simply that it is a pity the true traditions of our beloved sport are dieing out. I for one will miss them I do not have an agenda or a hatred of all things new but think about it this way. When the antis are trying to get our sport banned we use the phrase and the argument "hunting is a tradition and a way of life in the country" "it is the way of the land" "its traditional and has been taking place for years".. Well can we truly make this arguments and then go changing our traditions and values. Does this changing of our traditions make our arguments hypocritical or just plain wrong?. How can we one one hand disregard tradition and values and on the other hand pretend and argue that the reason we are carrying out these acts in this manner (hunting with a dog and gun) is traditional.. This makes no sense to me .

Yours in the best in all your hunting endeavors.
Greensout

pachey100

Greensout wrote: »

Dear sirs, You have completely taken me up wrong on my last comment. I was not trying to criticize you or your dog. My point is simply that it is a pity the true traditions of our beloved sport are dieing out. I for one will miss them I do not have an agenda or a hatred of all things new but think about it this way. When the antis are trying to get our sport banned we use the phrase and the argument "hunting is a tradition and a way of life in the country" "it is the way of the land" "its traditional and has been taking place for years".. Well can we truly make this arguments and then go changing our traditions and values. Does this changing of our traditions make our arguments hypocritical or just plain wrong?. How can we one one hand disregard tradition and values and on the other hand pretend and argue that the reason we are carrying out these acts in this manner (hunting with a dog and gun) is traditional.. This makes no sense to me .

Yours in the best in all your hunting endeavors.
Greensout[/

Point made you hunt the traditional way and I will hunt my way:)

DonnchaMc

Point made you hunt the traditional way and I will hunt my way:)[/QUOTE]

Isnt hunting with your dog what Traditional Hunting is?

pachey100

Not really it depends on your view of what is tradition using a lurcher to flush pheasant is in no way traditional:).My uncle who was a gamekeeper back in England would be turning in his grave if he new I had a lurcher.Now he was a real traditionalist if a gun was not made in England it was not a gun and semi automatic was something that did not come into his vocabulary. A great man non the less.

DonnchaMc

See 2me thats where people confuse tradition with habbit or better practice...

I would consider tradition more the ACT of, not so much the precise details..

Its a better idea to use a pointer or springer etc but why does that make it the only way?

pachey100

I am a strong believer that if something works then you might as well use it.

DonnchaMc

pachey100 wrote: »

I am a strong believer that if something works then you might as well use it.

I agree, but thats not tradition:D and also i believe you should use what you have available :D:D

pachey100

True true we should give up hunting and become philosophers:D

DonnchaMc

Hahaha indeed, 2much spare time maybe lol