Will there be justice?

ilovesleep

FF has brought an entire economy down due to their corruptness and incompetence. God only knows what kind of fraud was happening while they were in power. Do you think will there ever be justice brought against them. I do not want to see them or anyone else responsible for this mess getting off lightly with only a slap on the wrist.

Oasis_Dublin

Of course not. We're Irish. Those responsible will serve as TDs for a few more Oireachtas sessions. During this time they will make speeches about how bankers should be put behind bars but they will not mention developers funnily enough. They will also probably lead the government after the 2016 general election.

ilovesleep

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Of course not. We're Irish. Those responsible will serve as TDs for a few more Oireachtas sessions. During this time they will make speeches about how bankers should be put behind bars but they will not mention developers funnily enough. They will also probably lead the government after the 2016 general election.

The irish will have to face decades of financial hardship, poverty and econmic slavery. The only thing that would make it bearable is that those responsible are punished.

ilovesleep

If and when we see justice against FF and their gangster developer and banking mates I think stripping them of their assets and sending them to prison would be too good for them. They would get fed and have a roof over their heads in prison. They are nothing but maggots for running ireland into the ground. Do you know what I do with maggots I step on them and kill them. Any chance the country could bring in execution? And would you be for or against execution. We could sell tickets to the world all over for the execution events and we could make a few billion back in no time.

scr123

The ABFF are nothing but useless windbags and here we have another thread that will feed the hatred of FF that the ABFF see themselves as masters of. Dont forget windbags the biggest piece of corruption ever to hit this country is up in the air and when it lands on the ABFF where it belongs they will be in power and my oh my am I going to have fun ? Of course the day after the election the ABFF will disappear, especially from message boards, so I should not get carried away with anticipation !

flutered

scr123 wrote: »

The ABFF are nothing but useless windbags and here we have another thread that will feed the hatred of FF that the ABFF see themselves as masters of. Dont forget windbags the biggest piece of corruption ever to hit this country is up in the air and when it lands on the ABFF where it belongs they will be in power and my oh my am I going to have fun ? Of course the day after the election the ABFF will disappear, especially from message boards, so I should not get carried away with anticipation !

to quote shakespere, where ignorance is bliss it is folly to be wise

Oasis_Dublin

ilovesleep wrote: »

The irish will have to face decades of financial hardship, poverty and econmic slavery. The only thing that would make it bearable is that those responsible are punished.

The right thing to do would be to try them, lock them up and throw away the key. Unfortunately however, Irish people will do what they do best; piss and moan about those responsible at work, at the pub or on boards.ie and yet absolutely nothing will be done about it. We, as a people, get exactly what we deserve when it comes to politics.

ilovesleep

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

The right thing to do would be to try them, lock them up and throw away the key. Unfortunately however, Irish people will do what they do best; piss and moan about those responsible at work, at the pub or on boards.ie and yet absolutely nothing will be done about it. We, as a people, get exactly what we deserve when it comes to politics.

The good old nanny state that is ireland - lets mind them.

Lets see - what can i do to make a change. Ill definately be voting when election comes around. Im encouraging all that i know to vote too. What else can i do. Anything. I want to see justice. This week they are further pulling the p1ss with two politicians leaving the sinking ship with their fat pensions. Was reading in the irish independent today that they have awarded themselves xmas bonuses and 26 days xmas holidays. Thats absolutely unjust.

Oasis_Dublin

Of course it's unjust but there is nothing that can be done about it. Party politics means that it would be at least 15 years before any of us could get anywhere near the top of any party, by which time we would have been forced to tow the line. No one is willing to give up all that work in order to get near the top of the party just to throw it all away. Politicians are as self-serving as the next guy.
We may as well just accept it as is, because there is absolutely nothing which can be done about. The new Taoiseach will still take home a salary near 200,000€ while the minimum wage is reduced by 14%. The whole country is a shambles, and much as I am a giant Euro-sceptic, I say let the EU take us over. Then we can claim that the big bad wolf in Brussels or Frankfurt is to blame and continue to negate our own responsibilities for voting these d*ckh**ds in over and over again.

rant over.

ilovesleep

Im so ashamed to be irish. Those responsible will get away scot free. Roll on my xmas break - all three days of it - Im topping myself.

T runner

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Of course not. We're Irish. Those responsible will serve as TDs for a few more Oireachtas sessions. During this time they will make speeches about how bankers should be put behind bars but they will not mention developers funnily enough. They will also probably lead the government after the 2016 general election.

Even if we were German we would have very little power to do anything under the current system.

Blaming our problems on the fact that "were Irish" means our problems are insoluble.
There is plenty of people of intelligence and integrity in this country. We need to change the system to reflect that. Unfortunately our system aint easy to change, but we must try regardless of what Island we are from.

Oasis_Dublin

T runner wrote: »

Even if we were German we would have very little power to do anything under the current system.

Blaming our problems on the fact that "were Irish" means our problems are insoluble.
There is plenty of people of intelligence and integrity in this country. We need to change the system to reflect that. Unfortunately our system aint easy to change, but we must try regardless of what Island we are from.

The French bring the country to a halt when they oppose something, the Unionists bring Northern Ireland to a halt when they oppose something.... The Irish? Go on facebook and write up "Cowen is a tw*t" as their status or go on boards.ie and ask whether any one will be charged. There is a difference.

There is intelligence and integrity, fine. Changing the system to reflect that; what do you propose?

[Jackass]

They've mortgaged an entire generation. Us.

That's it, it's over. Our boom has come and gone, and that's the end of it. Just to put into perspective the debt we are in and the hardship we face trying to repay it - If Ireland was a person, we'd be sucking off truckers in the Pheonix Park to pay the bills.

What was the interesting statistic I heard? The e-voting debacle cost the life time tax income of about 1,000 tax payers? Just one of countless examples of these clowns and their arrogance and wastefulness in power, but you kept voting them back in. Now we're bankrupt and the country is ruined.

Never in our lifetime will we see that prosperty again, and we've only just begun. We've been stabalised while Europe recovers. It's more an investment in the currency than Ireland. Once the super powers are back on their feet, we'll be a going concern source of minimal income, but our international reputation, credit rating and hopes have been crushed. The eyes of the world are on Dublin every day. Living in Canada, I see Ireland on the news as often as I did watching six one, and anyone who hears my accent has one topic they wish to discuss.

It's strange to say, but there's such an awkwardness about your country losing economic soverignty.

But who should be held accountable? The care free criminals? No, job done. Collect the six figure pension and count all the backhanders that got you there.

I'd say privately, Bertie Ahern thinks this is all fu*king hillarious!

robbyvibes

ilovesleep wrote: »

FF has brought an entire economy down due to their corruptness and incompetence. God only knows what kind of fraud was happening while they were in power. Do you think will there ever be justice brought against them. I do not want to see them or anyone else responsible for this mess getting off lightly with only a slap on the wrist.

NO.

What a stupid question.

ilovesleep

Jackass - many people did vote for ff. and some did not. and others didnt vote at all - id say mostly young people. A bullying technic that ff had was holding elections around exam time in may/june to prevent young people from voting because they were too busy concentrating on studies. Another technic was buying people their votes. First time I voted was 07 - too fcuking late. So sorry i didnt vote sooner. Greedy, spineless leprechauns that are rotten to the core the irish are.