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Stanely Cara Insert Stove

  • 16-12-2010 10:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭


    Just wondering if any one has fitted the cara insert stove... thinking of retro fitting it into our living room, but would like to hear some reviews on it...Has anyone done this and do you find it now that you have? Was it a big job? :confused:

    Cheers
    Nobbies


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭shellyb73


    Priced this stove recently at 1150 ( supply only ) Thought it was a bit pricy and found this
    http://www.tripp.ie/fireplaces/view/132 490 ( supply only )

    Having it fitted on Monday so will let you know how it goes! The cara one is meant to be good but the price out me off a little, I dont know anyone with one..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Had my old fireplace demolished and this new Stovax Riva 66 multi fuel inset stove installed.The chimney was also insulated and lined with twin walled stainless flexi flue liner too,as this is important when using multi fuel stove in an old/existing chimney.

    3 words to describe how it looks in the room and how it heats the house.

    THE MUTTS NUTTS.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭leon76


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Had my old fireplace demolished and this new Stovax Riva 66 multi fuel inset stove installed.The chimney was also insulated and lined with twin walled stainless flexi flue liner too,as this is important when using multi fuel stove in an old/existing chimney.

    3 words to describe how it looks in the room and how it heats the house.

    THE MUTTS NUTTS.:D

    Hi

    I m thinking Of buying a insert stove. How has the Stovax Riva 66 worked for you. How much does it cost and would you recommend it?

    Regards

    Leon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    I recently got an insert stove installed - it was a Woodferne cast iron stove 7kW and its fantastic both in looks and for heating the room. I got it from dc-logs near enniskillen. The guys there installed it for me - took them three hours to do. It cost about €550 including installation and am delighted with it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭sam22


    hi has anyone fitted the insert stove with a boiler and if so does it heat many radiators. as we are thinking of fitting the stanley stove


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 markit


    Hi Nobbies,

    How did you get on with your cara stove? We have a gas fire , but it is very expensive and are thinking of doing the same-- non-boiler...Would appreciate any advice you may have...Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭mydogjack


    Hi have a Mulberry 'stoker' insert 6kw fitted. Room is 15ft x 25ft and does an excellent job, rads only on in below celsius conditions.
    Beauty is;
    1. Looks neat and tidy
    2. I can clean chimney from opening door as no elbow bend that coms out of non-insert stoves, so do not have to climb roof and clean from the top-down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 markit


    Thanks mydogjack.....u hear any reviews on the Stovax Riva 40? am trying to pick between it and the Cara from Stanley....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭Nobbies


    markit wrote: »
    Hi Nobbies,

    How did you get on with your cara stove? We have a gas fire , but it is very expensive and are thinking of doing the same-- non-boiler...Would appreciate any advice you may have...Thanks
    we did,nt go with it as we would off had too take down the fireplace and change the insert too suit the cara.considered it too big ajob.installed afree standing osin stove on the hearth,sits very neatly on it.very happy with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 markit


    Ths Nobbies,

    We were told the same,lot more expensive than I thought,might consider the oisin,nice unit....thks again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭mikehunts


    We put the Stanley Cara in. It was a big job, had to change insert to fit and put in steel liner. Very happy with it, whacks out great heat considering we burn a lot lot less fuel. Price was up near 16/1700euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭liamhana


    We fitted an cara inset in the last fortnight & counldnt be happier with it. Our chimney had been giving us some problems & the lads who fixed the chimney fitted the stove for free. They had to do a fair bit of manouvering to fit the multi-flue but due to the chimney problem that was going to have to be done anyways.
    Well worth it, we light the stove at about 4pm & add 3sods of turf every 2hrs or so & have brilliant heat coming out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Hermo


    Got a Cara Insert stove with boiler it is a powerful stove. The only problem I have is that on all brochures it shows it with a handle but when it arrives the handle is detachable and you cant have it permanently on the stove, so you are left with this little chrome stub which looks like the handle has been broken. Was not told this before I bought it. They say it is because the handle gets too hot, surely they could find a material that stays cool for handle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Hermo wrote: »
    Got a Cara Insert stove with boiler it is a powerful stove. The only problem I have is that on all brochures it shows it with a handle but when it arrives the handle is detachable and you cant have it permanently on the stove, so you are left with this little chrome stub which looks like the handle has been broken. Was not told this before I bought it. They say it is because the handle gets too hot, surely they could find a material that stays cool for handle
    the handle unscrews from the crome stub and then screws directly into the piece on the door.The handle can get very hot from use just make sure you use the heat glove or something similar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Hermo


    Thanks Robbie you would think after all these years they would be able to come up with a compound that would not heat for handles. Looks hideous without handle they are in the business long enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Ella5


    Hi Everyone, I had a Cara Stanley insert installed a few months ago, big job to install as we didn't have a square insert backing.....anyhow, there is a huge draw of air underneath the stove and there's not a huge mount of heat from the stove when it's lit. Was expecting more! Someone told me that there needs to be a whole lot of insulation placed around the back of the stove before it's installed into position, is this the case??? I know there was NO insulation put in with the stove.....Do I need to have someone take it out, insulate and re-install? I'd really appreciate your suggestions.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cosmowillie53


    Ella5 wrote: »
    Hi Everyone, I had a Cara Stanley insert installed a few months ago, big job to install as we didn't have a square insert backing.....anyhow, there is a huge draw of air underneath the stove and there's not a huge mount of heat from the stove when it's lit. Was expecting more! Someone told me that there needs to be a whole lot of insulation placed around the back of the stove before it's installed into position, is this the case??? I know there was NO insulation put in with the stove.....Do I need to have someone take it out, insulate and re-install? I'd really appreciate your suggestions.....
    I had a stove installed a few days ago . The fitters had a large roll of insulation with them which they used all around the stove. It looked like sheep wool but I think its a special type for the job.
    I don't know what the heat is like as I haven't had time to light it yet.
    Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Ella5 wrote: »
    Hi Everyone, I had a Cara Stanley insert installed a few months ago, big job to install as we didn't have a square insert backing.....anyhow, there is a huge draw of air underneath the stove and there's not a huge mount of heat from the stove when it's lit. Was expecting more! Someone told me that there needs to be a whole lot of insulation placed around the back of the stove before it's installed into position, is this the case??? I know there was NO insulation put in with the stove.....Do I need to have someone take it out, insulate and re-install? I'd really appreciate your suggestions.....

    When you say a huge draw of air under the stove what do you mean by that.If you have a strong draw that won't overly effect the stove if it been operated correctly. The Stove itself doesn't need to be insulated.What fuel are you using ? When the stoves lit how quickly is it burning is your primary and secondary air opened to much.I personally have a Cara and find them fantastic and I have fitted around 40-50 of them and have had no complaints


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Ella5


    Hi Robbie, thanks for your feedback. When I say draw underneath I mean the slight raised part of the stove off the hearth. The draw is so strong that when some ashes fall near the underneath, it's sucked up by the draw.......You mentioned that you fit these stoves, do you use insulation or is that not required? I checked the Stanley instructions for installing the Cara and it doesn't suggest insulation at all. I contacted the shop where I purchased the stove and they said there was no requirement for insulation either. Now I'm wondering if the connection to the pipe in the chimney is sealed......But someone advised me that the stove would smoke out through the door when trying the refuel if this was the case. I've used turf in it so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Ella5 wrote: »
    Hi Robbie, thanks for your feedback. When I say draw underneath I mean the slight raised part of the stove off the hearth. The draw is so strong that when some ashes fall near the underneath, it's sucked up by the draw.......You mentioned that you fit these stoves, do you use insulation or is that not required? I checked the Stanley instructions for installing the Cara and it doesn't suggest insulation at all. I contacted the shop where I purchased the stove and they said there was no requirement for insulation either. Now I'm wondering if the connection to the pipe in the chimney is sealed......But someone advised me that the stove would smoke out through the door when trying the refuel if this was the case. I've used turf in it so far.
    There is mo need for insulation around the stove.Its possible that the flue isn't sealed properly.Do you know what way the flue was done on the stove was the flue adaptor that comes with it used or was a flexi liner used.Turf has got a great heat output it must be completely dry best is anthracite and timber again all fuel must be dry or seasoned.Hope this is of some help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Ella5


    Robbie, thanks again for all your advice. Unfortunately I wasn't there when the stove was installed (mistake!) so I'm not sure what way the flue was handled. I do know there was a flue adaptor included in the box with the stove and I would say that's what he used because he didn't purchase anything other than what I had left for him to use to install the thing. I'll try the timber and anthracite, see if there's more heat output. Still unsure about the draw underneath the stove, maybe there's a strong pull from the chimney itself, if that's possible...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Ella5 wrote: »
    Robbie, thanks again for all your advice. Unfortunately I wasn't there when the stove was installed (mistake!) so I'm not sure what way the flue was handled. I do know there was a flue adaptor included in the box with the stove and I would say that's what he used because he didn't purchase anything other than what I had left for him to use to install the thing. I'll try the timber and anthracite, see if there's more heat output. Still unsure about the draw underneath the stove, maybe there's a strong pull from the chimney itself, if that's possible...

    If you are getting a draw under the stove not through it it's pulling up the chimney so if its under the stove the chimney is not sealed properly so you just need to determin which it's doing and in all cases always have a carbon monoxide alarm fitted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 rors46


    Hi
    Hope you dont mind but Can you help me i installed a stovax rver 40 for my mother i went by the book and installed a 5in flue and insulated it all properly. The problem was that all the heat was going up the chimney and when you came down in the morning the room would be stone cold you could here the draw constantly puling up with the slittiest bit of wind.
    to cut a long story short we pulled it out as my mother lost all confidence in it.
    now she wont's to put a Stanley cara stove in there.
    Is this going to do the same thing o by the way the room is 18FT by 13FT and an 8FT ceiling.
    it requirers ruffle y 4.5 kw
    Thanks For any help
    Rors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Bobby McEntyre


    Very disappointed with the cara insert stove. The insides warped after 15 months and were not covered by guarantee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    Very disappointed with the cara insert stove. The insides warped after 15 months and were not covered by guarantee.

    What were you burning in it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭golfbgud


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    the handle unscrews from the crome stub and then screws directly into the piece on the door.The handle can get very hot from use just make sure you use the heat glove or something similar

    Hi Robbie,

    Not sure I completely understand you here? Are you saying that if I buy an insert stove today with the handle in two parts that I can actually re-use the same original parts to make it a fixed operation (without the need for me to tap or thread components or buy alternative one's)? I too dislike the way that Stanley have tried to solve a potential safety issue - it looks crap for a premium brand at a price to match!

    Thanks.


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