Failing winter exam

m0rli

Hi

Is there possibility , to repeat winter exam? If yes, when?

thanks
m0rli

liam12989

yes but you will have to wait till august.you can only carry 10 credits to progress from year to year so keep it in mind.

mink_man

ya you repeat in august.

congress3

Are the repeats for Christmas definitely on in August or are they on with the summer exams

ARGINITE

It's always been August.

Bummer1234

"Summer" Exams are on in May....The repeats are called "Autumn" repeats and are as stated In usually late August.

congress3

Cheers lad's, it's just I remember last year there was a digital Media class that had a winter repeat in Summer, but I think that was just because most of the class failed it or something.

tampler

congress3 wrote: »

Cheers lad's, it's just I remember last year there was a digital Media class that had a winter repeat in Summer, but I think that was just because most of the class failed it or something.

I was in that class. Yeah, there was a high failure rate for one subject but the department got in a teacher to give us tutorials for the subject and we were able to have a "special sitting" of the exam again in May instead of August.

congress3

tampler wrote: »

I was in that class. Yeah, there was a high failure rate for one subject but the department got in a teacher to give us tutorials for the subject and we were able to have a "special sitting" of the exam again in May instead of August.

What happened that time, I'm in the software class and I think we all passed it.

What subject was it?

Just to make sure people are aware- if you fail an exam in a degree year, even if you do well in all the rest and do well in the repeat itself, your degree will be capped at a pass. I think I've got that right?

Naikon

Deleted User wrote: »

What subject was it?

Just to make sure people are aware- if you fail an exam in a degree year, even if you do well in all the rest and do well in the repeat itself, your degree will be capped at a pass. I think I've got that right?

This isn't true. Sure, it will bring your average down, but they can't cap you to a pass if your overall average is >=50% and you did not fail the repeat. If so, drop out and start somewhere else. It's bad enough that every prick and his mother is "going to college" now. I have been told by numerous Lecturers that a Pass degree is a waste of time, and if you have one, repeat. Sick of hearing that. Higher Education is becoming a required evil imo. Seriously, if you are in a spot of bother with modules, it might be better to start over, even if it costs some money. Don't let a bogey lecturer/class mess with your degree award.

Dellboy2007

Naikon wrote: »

This isn't true. Sure, it will bring your average down, but they can't cap you to a pass if your overall average is >=50% and you did not fail the repeat. If so, drop out and start somewhere else. It's bad enough that every prick and his mother is "going to college" now. I have been told by numerous Lecturers that a Pass degree is a waste of time, and if you have one, repeat. Sick of hearing that. Higher Education is becoming a required evil imo. Seriously, if you are in a spot of bother with modules, it might be better to start over, even if it costs some money. Don't let a bogey lecturer/class mess with your degree award.

You are wrong. If we fail one exam and our average is 99% and we pass the repeat scoring 100% our degree will still be capped to a pass degree. It's new rules brought in this year. It's totally ridiculous and puts even more pressure on students. This might not be the same across the board but as far as I know it applies to the school of business courses.

Naikon

Dellboy2007 wrote: »

You are wrong. If we fail one exam and our average is 99% and we pass the repeat scoring 100% our degree will still be capped to a pass degree. It's new rules brought in this year. It's totally ridiculous and puts even more pressure on students. This might not be the same across the board but as far as I know it applies to the school of business courses.

Seriously, if this is true for GMIT, it's bollocks. Maybe the students should organise a protest or something? I can understand capping the module to 40%, but this is taking the piss.

ARGINITE

It's always been this way from what I know.

Dellboy2007

ARGINITE wrote: »

It's always been this way from what I know.

Wrong. It was brought in this year. One of the biggest problems I have with it is that if it had always been this way and we were told from the beginning when we started the course that if we failed one our degree would be capped then I would probably have said fair enough (and done commerce) but to bring this rule in on our final year is very unfair. We didn't sign up for it but are being forced to adhere to it.

Halfpan

Naikon wrote: »

Seriously, if this is true for GMIT, it's bollocks. Maybe the students should organise a protest or something? I can understand capping the module to 40%, but this is taking the piss.

I cant speak for other business courses but from what I'm aware this rule applies to all ITs in relation to accounting. It was only brought in this year though from what we were told. Bad timing:(

ARGINITE

When I was in 4th/5th year we were told that failing one exam would mean that the max grade you could get in your degree would be a pass this was in 2006/2007 and in Electronic Engineering.
So it seems like it has always been this way, our class was informed of the fact at the start of fourth year.
As for it putting pressure on students, I think it's good it will thin the herd out a bit

Dellboy2007

ARGINITE wrote: »

As for it putting pressure on students, I think it's good it will thin the herd out a bit

What absolute rubbish. Some of the exams we are doing have a failure rate of 70% worldwide. This already "thins the herd" out without having to put this heavy burden on top of it. Take this story for example.... I know one person who is a top student, studies all day and all night. He has a 1.1 average in everything he has done to date. After one of the Christmas exams I spoke to him and he was distraught after having no luck in the exam and going blank. He now thinks it is probable he failed it (along with most of the course). His 1.1 degree is now in the bin and regardless of how he does in other tests he will still only be left with a pass degree. Tell me now how you think this is a good idea!


As if the value of a GMIT degree wasn't bad enough at the moment....

Naikon

ARGINITE wrote: »

When I was in 4th/5th year we were told that failing one exam would mean that the max grade you could get in your degree would be a pass this was in 2006/2007 and in Electronic Engineering.
So it seems like it has always been this way, our class was informed of the fact at the start of fourth year.
As for it putting pressure on students, I think it's good it will thin the herd out a bit

This rule is beyond stupid. Personally, if this happened to me in my final year, I would just transfer my ects credits to another place like say Sligo IT and just finish there. This might be the only way around this dumb rule should it happen to someone. Seriously, you would be physically sick if this happened. Don't let GMIT mess up your future in this instance. @Dellboy - I am sure there are plenty of options to allow your friend to upgrade to honours without GMIT. Granted, it won't be very cheap. Still an option to ensure the last few years weren't in vain though.

liam12989

A few people have been saying this rule to me.But as a 4th year student we were never told by top level management.surely we would ought to have been told at the start and surely it ould want to be in writing somewhere.
Personaly i think its some sort of a scare tactic to help people perfrom better.

Galway

Dellboy2007 wrote: »

Wrong. It was brought in this year. One of the biggest problems I have with it is that if it had always been this way and we were told from the beginning when we started the course that if we failed one our degree would be capped then I would probably have said fair enough (and done commerce) but to bring this rule in on our final year is very unfair. We didn't sign up for it but are being forced to adhere to it.

Try NOT to fail any then!! Seems a simple solution!

Dellboy2007

Galway wrote: »

Try NOT to fail any then!! Seems a simple solution!

Great advice. I was planning on failing all of them. :rolleyes:

xo.mary

liam12989 wrote: »

A few people have been saying this rule to me.But as a 4th year student we were never told by top level management.surely we would ought to have been told at the start and surely it ould want to be in writing somewhere.
Personaly i think its some sort of a scare tactic to help people perfrom better.

But then again, it's GMIT..

liam12989

Ya it just seems very harsh.i heard a couple of the lecturers were trying to get it changed back. If you have one bad day then your degree is useless really. and everyone can have a bad day. The old system of if you fail more than 2, was more fairer.

skinandblister

I heard that this has been changed now and that you wont be capped to a pass degree. Can anyone confirm this?

Also was one of the candidates running for Vice President, Zaheer, didnt he get this rule changed? He said it when he was addressing our class, that he got it changed last year. I assumed at the time it only applied to his class but now I'm unsure.

Wingawongawoo

The rule hasn't been changed. It's in the student handbook that you should get at the start of your course, no matter what course you're doing.

The way it works is that the degree award is capped at "pass", but your actual grade point average is still shown on your transcript. So any decent potential employer will be able to see past the "pass" and see your average grades anyway.

If you "pass" an honours degree, then it's still an honours degree. If you're studying a level 8 degree and have it capped as a "pass", it doesnt suddenly become a pass degree in the sense that some people call a level 7 degree a "pass" degree.