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Airtricity, pushy or what?!!

  • 16-12-2010 10:47am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭


    I arrived home yesterday and my wife was at the porch with some lad from Airtricity trying to get her to sign up.

    I walked into the kitchen didnt acknowledge him and he continued his spiel with my wife.

    He asked her for bills and readings etc and said it was cheaper etc..

    When my wife said she wanted to talk to me first he said he'd call back later.

    When he called back later his heart sank as I answered the door.

    He said he'd been talking someone else in the house.

    I said yes I heard all about it now I want to think about it, read up on your company and will make a decision.

    Still he pressed on. I said look I dont know anything about you and wont be signing up here but I will have a look on your site and will make up my mind then. Is that Ok I said.

    He wasnt happy then said yeah thats ok but I dont get paid then.

    He said this as if it was goin to change my mind.

    These "salespeople" are a disgrace. Pushy, pushy, pushy. :mad:

    I will not now and not ever sign up to this company for the reasons above regardless of price.

    How could you ever trust a company who allow their business to be put across in this disgusting manner.

    I feel for old people/vunerable people and people like my wife who are too nice/polite to listen.

    Rant over. I will of course be complaining to Airtricity over this and I would urge others to do the same.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Fnergg


    Thjere is no point complaining to Airtricity. Their approach is to get new customers at all costs and they tolerate (if they don't actively encourage) the type of behaviour you have described.

    Complain instead to the Commission for Energy Regulation. Here's a name and email address of someone who might listen to you:

    mstack@cer.ie

    That's the email address of one Maurice Stack who is involved in the electricity competition area in CER.

    (His name and email address has been taken from the CER website and is thus in the public domain).

    Regards,

    Fnergg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    coffeenuts wrote: »
    I arrived home yesterday and my wife was at the porch with some lad from Airtricity trying to get her to sign up.

    I walked into the kitchen didnt acknowledge him and he continued his spiel with my wife.

    He asked her for bills and readings etc and said it was cheaper etc..

    When my wife said she wanted to talk to me first he said he'd call back later.

    When he called back later his heart sank as I answered the door.

    He said he'd been talking someone else in the house.

    I said yes I heard all about it now I want to think about it, read up on your company and will make a decision.

    Still he pressed on. I said look I dont know anything about you and wont be signing up here but I will have a look on your site and will make up my mind then. Is that Ok I said.

    He wasnt happy then said yeah thats ok but I dont get paid then.

    He said this as if it was goin to change my mind.

    These "salespeople" are a disgrace. Pushy, pushy, pushy. :mad:

    I will not now and not ever sign up to this company for the reasons above regardless of price.

    How could you ever trust a company who allow their business to be put across in this disgusting manner.

    I feel for old people/vunerable people and people like my wife who are too nice/polite to listen.

    Rant over. I will of course be complaining to Airtricity over this and I would urge others to do the same.

    question : do you like any "salespeople" ?

    i'm not a big fan of them myself... particularly those who do door2door ( not a fan of chuggers either mind you)..financial advisers in the bank and estate agents you can add them to the list too.

    however as I've got older I realised that they are just doing a job and we've all gotta pay bills.

    afaik Airtricity don't do any of this door2door stuff.. its done by various companies all under the umbrella of the Cobra group (there are other threads on this board about them).

    these sales people only get paid commission - hence their determination to make a sale.

    If you tell them no thanks or we're already with Sky/Airtricity/UPC etc. they will feck off.. but they'll be back again soon.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,552 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Fnergg wrote: »
    Thjere is no point complaining to Airtricity. Their approach is to get new customers at all costs and they tolerate (if they don't actively encourage) the type of behaviour you have described

    Your basing this on what exactly?
    The sales people are not even Airtrcity employee's they are a third party company and Bord Gais and co also employee these exact same people.

    Bottom line is its these people's job to make a sale to get commission,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,715 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    I don't care how cheap Airtricity are - I wouldn't sign with them due to their reprehensible policy of high pressure sales, with multiple phonecalls and agents at your door, most of whom will not balk at outright lying to get their grubby hands on some commission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Your basing this on what exactly?
    The sales people are not even Airtrcity employee's they are a third party company and Bord Gais and co also employee these exact same people.

    Bottom line is its these people's job to make a sale to get commission,

    Are you sure Bord gais use the exact same company as airtricity? didnt think they do that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    I don't care how cheap Airtricity are - I wouldn't sign with them due to their reprehensible policy of high pressure sales, with multiple phonecalls and agents at your door, most of whom will not balk at outright lying to get their grubby hands on some commission.

    well good for you that you can afford to be so choosy.

    I'm happy to make the saving , it was always something I had intended to do online anyway but never got around to it so when they called I was happy enough to sign up.

    Irish people need to grow the cojones to tell these sales people thanks but no thanks if they don't want their services.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    Never understand why people sign with Airtricity, Bord Gais is the better option for two reasons.

    1. They are cheaper for electricity than Airtricity
    2. They are Irish and even though the country is in ruins at least all their profits dont go back to England.

    for me i cant see the point of supporting Airtricity.

    I also think Airtricity are a bunch of liars,they lost some big high court case and had to withdraw all their advertising saying they are totally green cause they only produce a small amount ofwind electricity compared to the amount they supply


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Had some Airtricity sales people too recently, tried gently backing out but they were agressively persistent. In the finish I told them I wasn't going to move as the ESB are there since the foundation of the state and that I didn't like his way of doing things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Some weeks ago, they knocked at my door, too.

    I just asked for the name of their regional manager, after they didn't understand the 'No, I am not interested' for the 125th time.

    And I reminded them, that they would not like to loose their 'good reputation':p

    I guess, they didn't even get that sarkasm of mine, but at least they didn't come back twice within a month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    the funny thing is, if they were properly trained in how to do cold call sales, they'd earn a fortune and people who they call on would probaby be grateful.

    problem is, they get no training, have no experience and are gee'd up with agressive sales behaviour

    fault lies with airtricity for employing the numpty inexperienced companies that think this is the way of selling


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭MonicaBing


    They've called to mine and i told them i have an esb meter! They werent long fecking off then! Obviously im not the type of customer they desire!!:D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    bungler wrote: »

    I also think Airtricity are a bunch of liars,they lost some big high court case and had to withdraw all their advertising saying they are totally green cause they only produce a small amount ofwind electricity compared to the amount they supply

    all their energy created is green, the issue is that it joins the national grid which is not all green.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    MonicaBing wrote: »
    They've called to mine and i told them i have an esb meter! They werent long fecking off then! Obviously im not the type of customer they desire!!:D
    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,237 ✭✭✭kirving


    Called to mine a few monhs ago. Apparently, saving "10% on Gas" and "13% on Electricity" (or vice versa), means you save a total of "23%".

    That's not someone who doesn't understand basic maths(which should be a requiremnt for the job!), it's straight out lying. In the end, my mam told them we'd switch over so the sales guy thought he'd get the commission, but cancelled it 10 minutes later! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    all their energy created is green, the issue is that it joins the national grid which is not all green.

    Yes i agree, but the issue was that Airtricity reps where telling people the electricity supplied to their homes and business's will be 100% green which is so false. One of their tv ads said Because they where green they helped save bunny rabbits which a judge ruled that they are not as green as their marketing had suggested.

    At the end of the day they produce electricity by wind but only when it the wind is blowing at certain speeds otherwise they have to use conventianal ways. And we all use the same electricity from the grid.

    Im pretty sure that bord gais are producing nearly the same amount of wind generated electricity as Airtricity.

    I just have a problem with Airtricity i think they are by far the worst company for aggressive selling,marketing,billing and customer services.

    Rant over lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    MonicaBing wrote: »
    They've called to mine and i told them i have an esb meter! They werent long fecking off then! Obviously im not the type of customer they desire!!:D

    *bangs head on desk*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    bungler wrote: »
    Are you sure Bord gais use the exact same company as airtricity? didnt think they do that
    Bord gais use CPM, I dont think the same company is used by Airtricity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭devil-80


    I just got my "closing a/" bill from esb, i was very surprised, i rang them and they told my that i moved to another supplier, which is not true. Last week there was few "airtricity people" going around the houses in my estate, i just told them im not interested, But as i can see now they switched me to airtricity!! Question is how??
    I mailed them, and now waitin for answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    devil-80 wrote: »
    I just got my "closing a/" bill from esb, i was very surprised, i rang them and they told my that i moved to another supplier, which is not true. Last week there was few "airtricity people" going around the houses in my estate, i just told them im not interested, But as i can see now they switched me to airtricity!! Question is how??
    I mailed them, and now waitin for answer.

    Is your electricity meter outside your house?
    They are famous for getting the serial number,then this means they can get your MPRN number and sign you over, they have done it to thousands of people


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Seeing as you are NOT actually an Airtricity customer because you have NO contract with them there is no need to contact Airtricity at all.

    Contact the CER ( their regulator) and tell them you were "slammed" as in fraudulently acquired as a customer by Airtricity using some subterfuge.

    Demand that they transfer you back to the ESB and that the CER confirms when this process is complete. There is no reason why any reasonable person would ever have to deal with fraudsters and therefore there is no reason to deal with anybody but the regulator.

    Seeing as that won't be sorted till January some time you will get free lekky for the duration by refusing to pay for any while your account was held captive by Airtricity.

    Take a meter reading every day ( starting by taking one now) so you know the start reading for your resumed ESB contract .....which should be on no worse terms than your old one or Airtricity will have to pay the difference...forever .

    Fraudsters should not be allowed to profit from their nefarious activities. Lucky they slammed you at a time of high consumption :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭devil-80


    bungler wrote: »
    Is your electricity meter outside your house?
    They are famous for getting the serial number,then this means they can get your MPRN number and sign you over, they have done it to thousands of people


    Yes, it's outside, but how they can do that!! I wish to see one of them in my estate now. I explain everything with esb and my account will be reopen in 2 weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    devil-80 wrote: »
    Yes, it's outside, but how they can do that!! I wish to see one of them in my estate now. I explain everything with esb and my account will be reopen in 2 weeks.

    As far as i know they have access to an ESB networks site to make sure when a genuine customer wants to sign up that they have the right meter so thats probably were they are getting it from


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭blossom180


    Jumpy wrote: »
    *bangs head on desk*
    am presuming the op means esb token meter,airtricity dont deal with anyone that has one.great way to ged rid of them,just say token meter and their gone.works every time:):):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭devil-80


    I got mail from them:

    Would it be possible for you to confirm your MPRN reference? I can then confirm the status of your application.
    Should you have any further queries please do not hesitate to email us.
    Regards

    Airtricity Customer Service


    And i wrote back this words:

    Hi, I'm not going to confirm anything. I didn't sing any contract with
    you, so i don't need to know status of my application. I know well
    what your people do when they want to have new customers. It's easy
    for them when electricity meters are outside house. You are famous
    for getting the serial number,then this means you can get MPRN
    numbers and sign over, you have done it to thousands of people.
    I just want to know why are you doing this, who signed my contract,
    when and what's name of airtricity person who "made" a fake deal with
    me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 beltenebros171


    i worker for one of those companies employed by airtricity to convert customers, just for a couple of days mind and yes, they are told to make the sale no matter what, they don't get a basic wage and if they don't meet a 6-8 sales per day target, they woill be let go after a week or so, i quit the job when shadowing a team leader i saw him bully and harass a vulnerable woman into signing up even after she told him she owes hundreds to esb and struggles to make the payments. but then, these companies are contractors and i doubt airtricity knows or cares how they make their sales as long as its done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    i didn't find them pushy at all, but then again i'd looked into their prices and actually wanted to switch to them because they offer cheaper gas and electricity, so it was a bit of a no-brainer when the guy called at the door offering it.

    everything was explained clearly and very professionally and he filled out all the forms for me so all i had to do was sign on the dotted line so to speak.

    i now have full access to my account online with a breakdown of all my usage and they even gave me a little key to open my meter box so i could do my own readings and log them directly to my account so they don't need to do any estimations so i get more accurate billing based on actual usage.

    it was actually a bit of a shock to find this thread and see a load of negative comments about them as i have had nothing but positive experiences since i signed up.

    i had originally moved my electricity to bord gais because they were cheaper than the ESB and airtricity are cheaper again for both gas and electricity so i don't see why people wouldn't be chewing the sales guys arms off when they call at the door personally, but i guess that's just me being a bit of a weirdo and liking the idea of cheaper gas & electricity. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    vibe666 wrote: »
    i had originally moved my electricity to bord gais because they were cheaper than the ESB and airtricity are cheaper again for both gas and electricity so i don't see why people wouldn't be chewing the sales guys arms off when they call at the door personally, but i guess that's just me being a bit of a weirdo and liking the idea of cheaper gas & electricity. :)

    Because the sales guys are ****. It's not like you have to wait for them to call to your door either. I'm sure if you rang Airtricity and signed up, they'd be more than happy to cut the middle men and take your money. Your not losing out on cheaper gas & electricity by (rightfully) slamming the door on these scum sales guys.

    Personally, Airtricity will lose out because of this behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    I made a big mistake in switching to them in a moment of weakness when they called to the door. I switched gas and electricity and now I find out that i am on a dual fuel scheme where you pay both bills in one lump. And it's a direct debit too! I'll be absolutely screwed in January. I rooted through documentation to see how I could change back to Bord Gais and I see that if I break the contract with Airtricity I have to pay them a 100 euro fee! Actually I found that out on the webite after a bit of trawling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Adyx wrote: »
    Because the sales guys are ****. It's not like you have to wait for them to call to your door either. I'm sure if you rang Airtricity and signed up, they'd be more than happy to cut the middle men and take your money. Your not losing out on cheaper gas & electricity by (rightfully) slamming the door on these scum sales guys.

    Personally, Airtricity will lose out because of this behaviour.
    to be honest, i don't usually entertain any type of cold callers the majority of the time and we were getting so many on a regular basis at one point i just started saying "no thanks" and closing the door in their faces the minute i realised they were selling something regardless of what it was.

    the last thing i want after a hard days work & long commute when i've finally put my feet up for the evening is to have to get up several times in the evening and listen to some plank spout off their sales pitch about whatever random bit of junk they're selling.

    a simple "no thanks" and close the door in their face is all that is required, nothing more and nothing less. it's like traffic wardens, someone who does that sort of job obviously has no scruples so why offer them any respect in return?

    don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you should tell them to f**k off and kick them down your driveway, but be very clear you have no interest in whatever they are selling and close the door, simple as that.

    if nothing else, you're saving them from wasting their time. :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭djrichard


    Adyx wrote: »
    Because the sales guys are ****. It's not like you have to wait for them to call to your door either. I'm sure if you rang Airtricity and signed up, they'd be more than happy to cut the middle men and take your money. Your not losing out on cheaper gas & electricity by (rightfully) slamming the door on these scum sales guys.

    Personally, Airtricity will lose out because of this behaviour.

    This is quite an extreme view that you have. Im from Scotland but have been living in Tenerife for the last 4 years. Before I moved here I was selling gas and electric for Scottish Hydro Electric (Scottish & Southern Energy [They own Airtricity now]) and then Scottish Power. I worked by cold calling on potential customers and offering them our product. When I started the job, the industry was in a bit of a mess, there were huge problems with the billing systems between the companies and a huge amount of misselling by a company called NPower.

    After many years of complaints, all sales agents had to have Energysure accreditation. This meant that if they were sacked from one company, they couldnt leave to work for another. When i started in 2000 there were around 15 providers. All new staff had to undergo a police check to ensure they were of suitable character, before being given a uniform and ID badge which would allow to access to the more vulnerable members of society, such as those in sheltered housing.

    This managed to reduce the complaints hugely, and I found that after 1 year of Energysure accreditation being in force, that the vast majority of householders I had spoken to, had regained some faith in the changing process.

    The reason I came across this post, is because Im strongly considering making the move to Ireland, perhaps Dublin or Cork, to start selling it again. Although the amount paid per sale is much lower in Ireland compared to Scotland, I was under the impression that there may be quite a lot of money to be made. I averaged over £1000 each week in Scotland, but I was very good at it. It was actually quite rare that householders would be abusive to me, and I was rather insistant when trying to enter the houses. The reason for that, is its much easier to get a sale whilst in the house, business on the doorstep is a waste of time.

    What started me in good stead was the 3 day training course everyone got. This was not so much about the product itself, but rather the psychology about selling. The methods used to gain trust, and what not to say. About not asking open and closed questions, basically, they taught you how to stay in control of the entire process. So I never found that people complained about me, in fact, most of them would be grateful that I had somehow managed to get into their house and spend some time talking to them. As I was filling in the application forms to change them, they would often state that now they realised how simple it all was, that they wish they had done it years ago, its just that no-one had managed to explain it to them as they were very tough at the front door.

    As far as sticking with what you know, and staying faithfull to the electric/gas board, well thats just not sensible. All of these huge companies are only interested in your money. Its important that people change to allow competition in the market. Imagine you only had one mobile phone operator, or broadband provider?? No thanks. From what Im reading in the media, Irelands economy is struggling and things are surely about to get worse as taxes rise etc. I would expect that as the purse strings tighten, that people will start to look more actively at ways in which to reduce their expenditure.

    I think as long as the salesman is polite and well informed, that there should be no call to assume they are all scum and a nuisance. I accept that in Ireland many of the procedures to protect the consumer may not yet be in place, but they will surely come.

    So, does anyone have any opinion on how a young Scottish man such as myself, will be received on the front doors in Ireland? I only hope I get the same welcome that my good friend from Dublin got when he was working in Scotland doing the same job, all the girls loved his Dublin accent!

    Also, Im quite excited to visit Ireland and live there, its such a beautiful looking island, and perhaps I can even try some of my Scots Gaelic and see if anyone in Ireland can understand me! I'm originally from the Isle of Tiree in the Western Isles, so I have a litte of the language.

    Wish me luck, and perhaps I may meet some of you on your front door. Dont chase me away, after 4 years in this sunshine, I might need a wee cup of tea to thaw my bones!

    Richad


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    You would have some chance of speaing the Scots Gaelic ( slowly) in Donegal and being understood, further south likely not.

    Thank you for your post on the accreditation of door to door salespeople, I would be entirely supportive of such a move here given the scumbags that have been let loose at this time.

    That our energy regulator learnt absolutely nothing from what the UK regulator evidently sorted out 10 years ago is entirely unsurprising. Regulation in Ireland is a complete joke :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Richard, people let you into their house...????

    Zero chance of that with me, or with a lot of people over here I'd imagine. Will you also try to 'trick' people into giving you their account number or MPRN number?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Seems a lot of people rather stick 'on principle' with ESB instead of saving a few Euro 'cos they're so much better and 'they're Irish'.

    Only they're screwing the customers for decades now being state protected in their cosy little money making racket. The average wage in that place is beyond believe btw.

    But as long as you're happy paying for that "cos' they're Irish" don't be complaining on some other issue how we're being ripped off when you're effectively declining competitive advantages which is the only way of ESB ever reducing their own prices.

    <sigh>


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭djrichard


    Richard, people let you into their house...????

    Zero chance of that with me, or with a lot of people over here I'd imagine. Will you also try to 'trick' people into giving you their account number or MPRN number?


    Of course they let me into their house, Im a very charming individual dont you know! hahaha

    All the tricks these rogues are doing is exactly the reason why Energysure was setup.

    http://www.energy-retail.org.uk/thecode/energysurescheme.html

    I have some rather unbelievable stories of what some got up to. One time, in a Dundee shopping centre, a stand was setup for people to give basic personal details and a signature to show their support for Save The Whales. This was actually some energy advisors who had kept the Whales publicity display from a previous job, and were using the details not for the whales, but in fact for filling out application forms. Nothing like this can happen in the UK anymore. In fact, if you work for Hydro Electric (Airtricity owners) or any of the agencies they use, you have to phone a service centre number whilst in the customers house and then pass the phone onto the customer. They will then be asked to confirm that they are aware that they are indeed changing supplier from whoever to Hydro Electric, and to confirm that they are happy with the process and that everything, including the 7 day cooling off period, has been explained cleary to them. Only after this confirmation has been given over the phone, will the sales agent be given a verification number to write on the application form. As you can imagine, this virtually stops all misselling.

    When given our sheets for the area we were working, we would have the customers name and address, their current supplier, payment method, meter point reference number, electric serial number, and often the account number when they were with us before they changed.

    Honestly, It sounds a little like stepping back in time when I hear the stories on here. Im amazed that all the issues in the UK have not been take into consideration, especially as Airtricity, who seem to be at the front of these complaints, are owned by Scottish & Southern and they have consistantly been at the forefront of customer satisfaction. It was the most difficult company to switch people from, such was the loyalty of their customers.

    The one thing in the favour of Bord Gais is their Irish roots, I cant tell you how many sales I completed simply due to pointing out the address of "Scottish Gas" as no longer being in Edinburgh, but as coming from Basingstoke. The Irish I guess, would be very loyal the same as the Scots.

    Maybe I should apply for a job with Bord Gais then, I see that a company called CPM are recruiting on their behalf. Does anyone have any experience with them? Im always wary of agencies, they tend to have a ridiculous churn with staff, like a revolving door!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    I'm not sure why you quoted my post - I thought it was quite moderate compared to some other posts in this thread. :D For the record: I have nothing against Airtricity as company, nor would I advocate staying with the ESB (We're with Bord Gais actually for gas and electricity). I also have nothing against sales people - as long as they are polite, honest and know their place, i.e. leave when requested/no interest is shown.

    Whilst my own experience with the sales people used by Airtricity pales in comparison to some, I did find them extremely pushy and impolite. If I was to switch (and this goes for all companies), I would cut out the middleman and contact them directly.

    If you do decide to move to Ireland, then I wish you all the best. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,715 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Seems a lot of people rather stick 'on principle' with ESB instead of saving a few Euro 'cos they're so much better and 'they're Irish'. >

    I haven't seen anyone saying anyhting like that here. People are saying they won't switch to Airtricity because they're a shower of lying scammers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭djrichard


    Adyx wrote: »
    I'm not sure why you quoted my post - I thought it was quite moderate compared to some other posts in this thread. :D

    Only because it was the strongest post on the final page, saved me having to load up another page to get a quote. Nothing personal I assure you, just my laziness . :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Seems a lot of people rather stick 'on principle' with ESB instead of saving a few Euro 'cos they're so much better and 'they're Irish'. ...Only they're screwing the customers for decades now being state protected in their cosy little money making racket...declining competitive advantages which is the only way of ESB ever reducing their own prices.


    You need to look at some facts rather than just letting rip on a rant.

    Firstly, people are not sticking with ESB Customer Supply out of principle at all. They are switching elsewhere in droves. Secondly, ESB Customer Supply are not allowed compete in the Domestic market at present. Only when they have less than 60% of the market (later this year probably) will they be allowed compete. They have wanted to reduce charges but the regulator won't allow it in case it drives out the competitors.

    Maybe, deal in facts in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    What do you have against saving 13% on your electricity and saving the environment at the same time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    Matt Bauer wrote: »
    What do you have against saving 13% on your electricity and saving the environment at the same time?

    Because the OP said he would read up on Airtricity so i presume he didnt know much about them and with all the people trying to flog dodgy offers i think thats fair. I think the mian point from most of the post is that its not the savings its their attitude and they way they try force the sale.

    Also why not go with Bord Gais and save 14%? they also produce nearly as much green electricity as Airtricity.

    Do you by any chance work for Airtricity?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭AMCCORK


    My OH was getting pushed big time by an airtricity rep she even called on New Years Eve to say their offer was finishing so to sign up that day. I refused to even consider the 12 month contract and was told that you could switch without a contract and get 10% off Electricity and 10% off gas. As I am with Bord Gais for both there was no saving on the electricity and I looked at a recent bill and calculated it at the Airtricity rates and because of their standing charge it would actually have been 48c dearer. So I was proven right in my conviction that they were so pushy that it gave me a bad feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Matt Bauer


    I'm just somebody who has saved €200 so far since switching to Airtricity. At the time I considered Bord Gais as well, but their 14% offer only applied if I also got gas from them, and that's not available where I live. I don't know if that has changed now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭bmarley


    So fed up with airtricity, i am sorry i switched over to them last year. Couple of times bills were higher than average and when I rang was told that I had been under charged during first few months and that they were now spacing it out over next few months. On Decembers bill, I noticed that the amount was much higher than usual, when I rang up I was informed this was an estimate so I took a reading from meter and gave it to them. They amount they were planning to take out of my account was 100 euro in excess of what I owed and this in December of all months.

    My 20 year old daughter had an account with them for couple of months last year. When she moved out of her accommodation, a bill came through to her for an outstanding amount of 400 euro. My daughter and myself spoke with them and it was agreed that account would be closed, a final bill sent to my name and address and that the account could be settled in full (daughter moving abroad). A final reading was done in early August and I settled the bill in full end August. Lo and Behold a bill arrives in December for outstanding amount still due of 70 euro, It had my daughters name on it care of my name as address. I rang up to query the bill. They needed to speak to my daughter. Abroad. They still needed to talk to her. Handed phone to hubby. He didn't bother disguising his voice but confirmed he was the daughter and guessed her passwords etc and confirmed that mum could voice her query.

    So, to cut a long story short, when new tenants changed supplier and got their first bill they disputed the amount they owed - (they had actually been living on free electricity from June to August, when daughter finally got it taken off her name). So it turned out my daughters account was not fully paid, something to do with the night charges had been underestimated! Airtricity said that if I wanted to dispute this I should go over and talk to new tenants in flat and see if we could come to an agreement between ourselves. Too funny really, but I will not be paying...Sorry I actually paid any of it..what could they have done...turned off the supply!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Meeoow


    Got duped into switching to Airtricity before Christmas.
    After signing up, I compared their rates to my previous ESB and Bord Gais bills.
    Turns out, I would only have saved 1 Euro on gas and 3 Euros on electric if I had to have been billed by Airtricity.
    Taking into account that you have to sign up to direct debits for a year, and can be charged interest and charges by the bank if you havn't the money in your account, I realised that i would be better off with ESB and Bord Gais.
    The contract states that you have to pay 100 euros if you get out of the Airtricity contract early.
    I contacted the consumer association, who were very helpful.
    Turns out that the contract is void anyway, because uninvited doorstep callers have to inform you that you have a 7 day cooling off period and they should also give you a cancellation form.
    So anyone who has signed up and is regretting it should be aware that the contract is void if they weren't made aware of the cooling off period. It worked for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    I'm in the same boat and wasn't told about the coolong off period either or the 100 euro charge to break the contract. I'm due a bill soon:mad: and if it's enormous I'll ask them to split it in two. I have gas and electricity from Airtricity.


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