Weanling prices

BeeDI

Cattle must be getting dear. had a call last week from a dealer asking if I had anything to sell. Told him no, I intended keeping a bundle till March, and chance it then.
He called again Tuesday this week and asked again. I said no. March.
He landed into the yard last night. He sez, I was just passing and saw the lights on. Stone mad for buying stock. Them boys, always know the market movement before a simpleton like me.
What's going on? Is there a good lift coming up in trade?
I'm tempted to show my face in the mart early January at this rate.

snowman707

BeeDI wrote: »

I'm tempted to show my face in the mart early January at this rate.

might be a different story then, some people are trying to source stock before the end of the year for tax purposes

reilig

I have always found spring prices to be higher and try to hold on to any of my smaller weinlings if I have the space and fodder for them. Prices should be better when farmers are buying to let out on grass. Fingers crossed. I still have 15 to sell.

snowman707

reilig wrote: »

I have always found spring prices to be higher and try to hold on to any of my smaller weinlings if I have the space and fodder for them. Prices should be better when farmers are buying to let out on grass. Fingers crossed. I still have 15 to sell.

we lost money by wintering stores last year, only ones that paid were the ones we held and killed out of the shed in late May,

might be a different story with lighter stock though

no body wanted or was willing to pay for the forward store as one guy said to me last april "a month ago is was no grass and no money, now it's no grass no money no silage"

hopefully next spring will see better grass growth and more understandingy bank managers who didn't help the story either.

reilig

Lighter stock is what I was referring to I suppose. Weinlings that were 300 - 350kg in february left me a bit of money last year. I had 10 of my own CHX bulls and I had bought 10 very light BB heifers in October 2009 at a right price. Ration was cheap at the time, and I was supplementing it for silage with a lot of cattle. My best BB heifer was bought at €430 in October and sold for €810 in feb. She was kind of an ugly duckling - I had to skull her when I brought her home, but she was a lovely animal when she got a bit of feeding.

Anything that wasn't for export was a poor price last spring though!!

snowman707 wrote: »

we lost money by wintering stores last year, only ones that paid were the ones we held and killed out of the shed in late May,

might be a different story with lighter stock though

no body wanted or was willing to pay for the forward store as one guy said to me last april "a month ago is was no grass and no money, now it's no grass no money no silage"

hopefully next spring will see better grass growth and more understandingy bank managers who didn't help the story either.

BeeDI

reilig wrote: »

Lighter stock is what I was referring to I suppose. Weinlings that were 300 - 350kg in february left me a bit of money last year. I had 10 of my own CHX bulls and I had bought 10 very light BB heifers in October 2009 at a right price. Ration was cheap at the time, and I was supplementing it for silage with a lot of cattle. My best BB heifer was bought at €430 in October and sold for €810 in feb. She was kind of an ugly duckling - I had to skull her when I brought her home, but she was a lovely animal when she got a bit of feeding.

Anything that wasn't for export was a poor price last spring though!!

I agree with that. More often than not I would keep the lighter weanlings and anything plain looking. Outwinter in a dry corner, if weather was ok. Slats if not. Feed with nice silage and a bit of meal. Amazing how smart they get by mid Feb. The handy charolais calf in particular can look a bit gutty coming off a cow say in October. The bit of time till February to grow a bit and a little TLC really puts a polish on the most of them.
Always made out I made a better return that way.
I was thinking of holding out till end March or maybe till mid April this year as I have more room and enough feeding.

pakalasa

Especially true for late calves. Also, when you know the cow was short of milk but good breeding in the calf.

ellewood

was in kilkenny today any thing on 4 legs was making big money

even the fecking dealers were paying big money for cattle even when it got late and no farmers around to bid usually they would divide the lots between themselves so as to get them cheap long may it last i say

ellewood

snowman707 wrote: »

might be a different story then, some people are trying to source stock before the end of the year for tax purposes

why???

leg wax

ellewood wrote: »

why???

they feel its more work to wright a cheque for the tax man than out feeding cattle and slobering around in ****e over christmas instead of takeing it easy, others will buy a shiney tractor and will have to sit on it for years to make it pay and it will still do the same jobs as the old one that was paid for instead of 30seconds work wrighting a cheque which they still have to do for their new purchases.

snowman707

leg wax wrote: »

they feel its more work to wright a cheque for the tax man than out feeding cattle and slobering around in ****e over christmas instead of takeing it easy, others will buy a shiney tractor and will have to sit on it for years to make it pay and it will still do the same jobs as the old one that was paid for instead of 30seconds work wrighting a cheque which they still have to do for their new purchases.

are you on the p1ss early for christmas ?

blue5000

just in the door from mountrath heres a few sample prices from bulls about an hr before it ended
Ch 250 kg 595e
red Sm 245kg 490e
AA 255 kg 530
AA 280 kg 495
Sm 290 kg 420
Ch 370 kg 755
red Lm 405 kg 770
BB 320 kg 640
fr 222 kg 370

The last 2 were near the end.

pakalasa

Have a look at this week's journal front page.
Supply and Demand!
That's why.:D

sheepdogone

some rough looking cattle in irish farmers journal do you southern guys not no the ai mans number lol seriously some poor quality stuff must be from old guys who dont move with the times or think a belgium blue is a depressed european ??? !!

Shauny2010

Sold some last week in ennis,
Prices for charlies bulls at 10 months old
4 X 310 Kg €660
3 X 350 kg €700
2 X 385 kg €785

Heifers same age
2 X 290 kg €620
1 X 220 kg €502

leg wax

was working out what my weanlings have cost me to keep last night as i will be selling them in the first 2 sats in feb. they were on 2kgs of meal silage and kale they have cost me 140 euros each to keep. i think that they will hopefully have increased in value by 250-300 euros.bad cattle are makeing 2.20 a kg which was the price good wealings were makeing in the fall of the year when the glut of weanlings came out.

blockie

hi have a bunch of charolais heifer weanlings 11 to12 months old about 380 to 400 kilos can anybody tell me what i should be getting over the weight for them they are nice cattle thanks

charliecon

If they are well shaped white or orangey charolais they should make from 380 to 420 with their weight ,the brown ones about 350 to 370 - thats what they were making in Carnaross last night anyway.
Alot depends on having them in the right mart and having plenty of buyers ringside though.

Butcher Boy

sold 4 nice black lim in macroom sat 392 kg 810 now they were nice stock bought for breeding

snowman707

we sold a bunch of LM X MO heifers straight from the shed @ 420 plus their weight they averaged €860 , gave €100 luck back on 15 and we also delivered for free them 55 miles away

lots of enquiries for bulling heifers this spring