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Tipperary Casino and Kerry nursing home

Backard_Pell · 2010-12-13 15:21:08

a quick question regarding the proposed Michael Lowry casino in Tipperary and the nursing home that Jackie Healy Rae got the green light for in Kerry.... where will the money come from to build these projects? who will be the owner of the casino? Will the nursing home be public or private?

13-12-2010 3:21pm

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a quick question regarding the proposed Michael Lowry casino in Tipperary and the nursing home that Jackie Healy Rae got the green light for in Kerry.... where will the money come from to build these projects? who will be the owner of the casino? Will the nursing home be public or private?

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#2 13-12-2010 3:59pm

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Mr Lowry wants a change in the law so that super casinos will be able to open for business in the republic.

Jackie has forced the government to allocate funds from the capital expenditure to build his two pet projects. One of them has them the N22 Tralee bypass was given the go ahead by the NRA in the 4 year plan and will start construction mid 2011.

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#3 13-12-2010 4:20pm

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:mad: I feel a great urge to puke:eek:

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#4 13-12-2010 4:20pm

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"Lowry's Casino" is proceeding with all private sector funding... However, he needed gov support wrt gambling laws...

As for healy rae, that will be funded by the taxpayers.

Neither of these projects would proceed with public funds/or under current legislation, however both TD's have used their votes as bargaining power.... In my opinion, "as blackmail"!

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#5 13-12-2010 4:35pm

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Backard_Pell wrote: »

a quick question regarding the proposed Michael Lowry casino in Tipperary and the nursing home that Jackie Healy Rae got the green light for in Kerry.... where will the money come from to build these projects? who will be the owner of the casino? Will the nursing home be public or private?

See here.

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#6 13-12-2010 5:11pm

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thanks for the link.. hadn't realised all that. Back to the nursing home question, is JHR's proposed nursing home in Kerry going to be public or private? If it is being built with taxpayers money, then are we right to assume it will be public?

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#7 13-12-2010 5:53pm

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Paddysnapper wrote: »

:mad: I feel a great urge to puke:eek:

Fair enough I don't agree with the casino thing, but why is it such a bad thing that they're building a nursing home and a bypass, probably where the locals feel its well needed? I'd have no problem with it to be honest!

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#8 13-12-2010 6:00pm

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Padkir wrote: »

Fair enough I don't agree with the casino thing, but why is it such a bad thing that they're building a nursing home and a bypass, probably where the locals feel its well needed? I'd have no problem with it to be honest!

a nursing home would be a great idea.... if it was public... meaning that no private company would be charging for its use, seeing as it is being built with public money... which is what Im trying to find out here

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#9 13-12-2010 6:04pm

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Backard_Pell wrote: »

a nursing home would be a great idea.... if it was public... meaning that no private company would be charging for its use, seeing as it is being built with public money... which is what Im trying to find out here

Well as far as that goes I can't help you.:o

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#10 14-12-2010 12:04am

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Im not really sure where a bypass of Tralee fits in ....... Ive spent a lot of time there - not sure why a bypass is needed. I think it will end up costing far more than it should, and taking business out of the town. I think there is already pretty good infrastructure around tralee - I have never had to enter the town centre to reach Listowel, Tarbert, Castleisland etc., nor have I ever sat for a very extended period of time in traffic when I did enter the town centre.....except when a GAA game is on.

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#11 14-12-2010 12:10am

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Backard_Pell wrote: »

a nursing home would be a great idea.... if it was public... meaning that no private company would be charging for its use, seeing as it is being built with public money... which is what Im trying to find out here

Yeah, a nursing home in every town and village is a good idea with our ageing population. Metro north and Cork docklands are all great ideas but we don't have the money for them.

Try tell that to Healy-Rae tho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohD5pTJb4F0

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#12 15-12-2010 3:28pm

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volvilla wrote: »

"Lowry's Casino" is proceeding with all private sector funding... However, he needed gov support wrt gambling laws...

As for healy rae, that will be funded by the taxpayers.

Neither of these projects would proceed with public funds/or under current legislation, however both TD's have used their votes as bargaining power.... In my opinion, "as blackmail"!

And more importantly for the healy-are dynasty, one rosemary healy-rae was reappointed to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Tribunal by retiring minsiter dermot aherne.

http://www.thejournal.ie/healy-raes-daughter-retains-plum-public-job-2010-12/

I am not allowed discuss …

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#13 22-12-2010 4:36pm

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The €460m project features a 6,000sq m casino, a replica of the White House, a 500-bedroom five-star hotel and an entertainment complex.

Tacky????

Insult to America?

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#14 22-12-2010 10:57pm

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volvilla wrote: »

"Lowry's Casino" is proceeding with all private sector funding... However, he needed gov support wrt gambling laws...

No sooner said ...

Irish Times wrote:

Existing laws regulating gambling in the State are not fit for purpose, Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern said today.

Speaking following the publication of a consultation paper entitled Options for Regulating Gambling , Mr Ahern said his wish was that regulation of the industry be brought into the 21st century.

This would mean “improved protection for minors and vulnerable adults, more transparent operations by gambling providers, and more effective measures against fraud and illegal gambling and criminality,” he said.

The paper, drawn up following a public consultation process, says resort casinos would generate large-scale employment during construction and operation and should also provide a high return to the state in terms of licensing fees and gambling tax revenue.

Tipperary North TD Michael Lowry has expressed support for a “Las Vegas-style” casino, sports complex and entertainment resort which has been granted planning permission to be built in his constituency near the village of Two-Mile-Borris.
[...]

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#15 22-12-2010 10:59pm

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Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Tacky????

Insult to America?

In that case, Vegas is an insult to Paris, New York, Venice, Egypt...

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#16 22-12-2010 11:02pm

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Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Tacky????

Insult to America?

It was an Irishman who designed the original White House

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#17 23-12-2010 9:20am

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dvpower wrote: »

In that case, Vegas is an insult to Paris, New York, Venice, Egypt...

probably is

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#18 24-12-2010 12:19pm

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Padkir wrote: »

Fair enough I don't agree with the casino thing, but why is it such a bad thing that they're building a nursing home and a bypass, probably where the locals feel its well needed? I'd have no problem with it to be honest!

It's not a bad thing at all, presumably. But by asking the question, you seem to have missed the point that it's being given the go ahead by a government in return for one TD's support. In effect, the government has allowed itself to be blackmailed into doing it.

Are you really saying, at a time of national financial ruination, that the money being allocated by this disgraceful government to build a bypass around Tralee could not be better spent?

I suppose the outrage at these decisions is that our government is so spineless when it comes to spending OUR money.

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