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  • 11-12-2010 7:50pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭


    I have a rectangular room and the sounds pretty ****. Going to be putting some absorbers into the room any advice on which ones work best for making a room sound proof and dead? Want it as dead as possible so I can work the reverbs and all in myself.

    So any tips would really be helpfull.

    http://www.thomann.de/ie/the_takustik_san30_noppenschaumstoff.htm

    these are the panels i'm looking at.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭brettzy


    Those panels alone are not going to solve your problems I am afraid.

    How big is your room? What's it sound like?

    Most rooms need 3 things, bass traps, absorbers and diffusers. Completely depending on the shape and size of your room but you could start a pack or 2 of these
    http://www.thomann.de/ie/auralex_acoustics_lenrd_bass_traps_charcoal_4.htm
    and a couple of packs of these
    http://www.thomann.de/ie/the_takustik_pyramidenschaum_5020_2er_set.htm
    and then make a couple of these your self
    http://www.thomann.de/ie/the_takustik_sd2_rasdiffusor.htm

    Hope that helps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Niall - Dahlia


    Is it a mix room or a tracking room?

    Either way, you don't want it to be too dead, "as dead as possible" is never a good idea.

    Some foam absorbers at the reflection points in your room and bass traps in the corners is an ok start, there's no need to plaster foam all over your walls. But really you want to be looking at getting some Owen's 703 (or similar based) broadband absorbers http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 Platinum Recording


    check out,

    http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php

    its a great site with tons of information.

    We couldn't get any Owen's 703 for our studio build. We used Rockwoool RW5 and RW3. You could also look at Knauf Insulation RS60 and RS80, very similar properties to Owen's 703 and 705.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭madtheory


    Soundproofing is difficult and expensive, acoustic treatment is not.
    A rectangular room is useable depending on its volume, hopefully it's stud partitions and not concrete blocks?
    Totally dead is not a good idea.
    You can make your own panels.
    They can be portable so you can change your room for mixing or recording.
    You should probably build a mixture of trapping and diffusion.
    John Sayers forum is excellent, but start with the Ethan Winer article, it's a great primer on acoustics.
    More good articles on http://www.realtraps.com
    RW3 is about the same as the Owens Corning.
    Isover make some useful material too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭off.the.walls


    Thanks guys and its a rectangular room i'd say the dimensions would be about 6 meters wide by about 15 or 16 long not to sure on measurments.. have all the walls stuffed with **** and plastered over but its still not sounding the best so gonna slap up a few of those panels and bass absorbers do sound like a good idea too. Its just for recording drums everything else sounds grand in it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭madtheory


    If it's only for recording then you need mainly diffusers, not absorbers. The room modes might even sound good with drums, if you're lucky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭artvandulet


    Thanks guys and its a rectangular room i'd say the dimensions would be about 6 meters wide by about 15 or 16 long not to sure on measurments.. have all the walls stuffed with **** and plastered over but its still not sounding the best so gonna slap up a few of those panels and bass absorbers do sound like a good idea too. Its just for recording drums everything else sounds grand in it.

    Is it really 6m x 16m? Thats quite a big room you got there! 52' x 20'!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Dont forget that to proof a room, its not just good to get those foam pads stuck on a wall, there has to be a cushion of air behind it to eliminate those bass frequencies.

    A lot of amateur engineers waste money on these foam pads as they don't use them correctly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭madtheory


    Fart wrote: »
    Dont forget that to proof a room, its not just good to get those foam pads stuck on a wall, there has to be a cushion of air behind it to eliminate those bass frequencies.

    A lot of amateur engineers waste money on these foam pads as they don't use them correctly.
    By "proof" do you mean "sound proofing"? Because foam pads are for acoustic treatment, not sound proofing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    madtheory wrote: »
    By "proof" do you mean "sound proofing"? Because foam pads are for acoustic treatment, not sound proofing.

    you beat me to it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭off.the.walls


    Doesn't really matter either way ran out of money because of christmas so unless i score a job or something not going be able to afford it. Think i might emigrate have decided **** ireland, **** this recession, **** christmas, and **** everything being so expensive. This country is such a rip off its a joke!.


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