DUCK DECOYING?

jimbrowning

hi lads.

thinking of trying out some duck shooting over decoys this year (if this ice ever f##ks off) Have never used decoys or duck calls so need advice.
The lake in question holds mainly teal and malard. i,v shot the lake for years, but never tried flighting or decoying so have lots to lern!
I have a good spot in mind to build a hide but any advice is welcom.
Good spots on a lake, amount and type of decoys, time of day and calls????

THANKS IN ADVANCE.

jimbrowning

I take it no1 on here decoys ducks either???:(

blackstairsboy

Well Jim, I don't decoy ducks because I don't have anywhere to shoot ducks. Its all about to change though as I have just got into a wildfowling club. It is something I definatley want to learn though so I will be keeping an eye on this thread. Responses can be like buses though you wait a week for one and then you get ten in an hour;)

jimbrowning

yeah i kno. i,v been looking 4 a decoying dvd but all i can find is dvd,s from usa.
i,l probly just give it a go and see what happens.
i,m thinkin if i try the u caller (whith out the gun!) and see what calls work best before i try it 4 real.

wildfowler94

jimbrowning wrote: »

yeah i kno. i,v been looking 4 a decoying dvd but all i can find is dvd,s from usa.
i,l probly just give it a go and see what happens.
i,m thinkin if i try the u caller (whith out the gun!) and see what calls work best before i try it 4 real.

Sorry Was Working..... Mallard Are Bastards Wont Decoy..Well Maybe Early Season Birds!! Teal Will Decoy To Anything....The Trick Is To Be Camoflagued Very Well And Dont Move When Birds Coming!! :rolleyes:
Your Better Of Finding A Good Lake And Decoying Wigeon And Black And Whites...:) Dvds From The us Are Good But All About Mallard Who Decoy Over There! If You Want A Good Dvd Buy Chirs Greens Wildfowling Dvd...Its Set In England So It Works Here!:D
The U Caller Works A Treat But Is Illegal...But Sur Shh!!:p

blackstairsboy

Chris Greens dvds are the bees knees. The second wildfowling one is the best for decoying ducks he explains it well. All his dvds are good and I was talking to him at the CLA gamefair and he is one sound man.;)

jimbrowning

wildfowler94 wrote: »

Sorry Was Working..... Mallard Are Bastards Wont Decoy..Well Maybe Early Season Birds!! Teal Will Decoy To Anything....The Trick Is To Be Camoflagued Very Well And Dont Move When Birds Coming!! :rolleyes:
Your Better Of Finding A Good Lake And Decoying Wigeon And Black And Whites...:) Dvds From The us Are Good But All About Mallard Who Decoy Over There! If You Want A Good Dvd Buy Chirs Greens Wildfowling Dvd...Its Set In England So It Works Here!:D
The U Caller Works A Treat But Is Illegal...But Sur Shh!!:p

so malard are hard to decoy, didnt kno that. so i wonder why all the decoy,s for sale in the shops are malard?

Eddie B

jimbrowning wrote: »

so malard are hard to decoy, didnt kno that. so i wonder why all the decoy,s for sale in the shops are malard?

Because no one buy's them!
There sold out of all the other species!!!:D:D:D:p:p

wildfowler94

Eddie B wrote: »

Because no one buy's them!
There sold out of all the other species!!!:D:D:D:p:p

Pretty Much Yeah..Trust Mallard Wont Decoy!!:rolleyes::mad:

steyrman2

wildfowler94 wrote: »

Pretty Much Yeah..Trust Mallard Wont Decoy!!:rolleyes::mad:

hi the will decoy on ponds look at my posts i dont shoot lakes so cant say for sure

Double Barrel

Mallard duck wont come in to decoys?
First I have heard of it.

wildfowler94

Double Barrel wrote: »

Mallard duck wont come in to decoys?
First I have heard of it.

Anyone Who Decoys Ducks Alot...Know Mallard Wont decoy!!:rolleyes:

steyrman2

wildfowler94 wrote: »

Anyone Who Decoys Ducks Alot...Know Mallard Wont decoy!!:rolleyes:

i have shoot the same ponds for years and have shot a lot of mallard using decoys the lakes must be a different ball game

Double Barrel

jimbrowning wrote: »

hi lads.

thinking of trying out some duck shooting over decoys this year (if this ice ever f##ks off) Have never used decoys or duck calls so need advice.
The lake in question holds mainly teal and malard. i,v shot the lake for years, but never tried flighting or decoying so have lots to lern!
I have a good spot in mind to build a hide but any advice is welcom.
Good spots on a lake, amount and type of decoys, time of day and calls????

THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Jim,
Some common sense information:
Find out their patterns, where the birds feed, where they want to be and put your decoys there or close by.
You can get by with a half dozen decoys if the ducks want to be there but you may need a big spread 6 dozen plus if you are just trying to draw them in.
Call sparingly unless you are good at it and I mean good. One sour note and the jig is up. Learn the call's in the off season.
Variety in your decoy spread is more important in my opinion, a few teal mixed in with a dozen mallards of wigeon add variety and realism. Keep the teal together. Space the mallard deeks about a meter apart and leave a landing spot in the centre. Face the deeks into the wind. Location is perhaps the most important aspect of waterfowling. Basically, hunt where you’ve seen ducks. Shallow backwaters off big rivers, smaller ponds, big ponds, etc. - try and situate on their preferred flight lines. Confidence decoys, a ( heron, seagull, pigeon, crow etc.) add that settled look and realism.



Pick up any shiny objects- plastic bottles, cans etc. -flotsam and jetsam - in the vicinity of your hide.

Good luck.


http://www.ducks.org/hunting/duck-calling/8-calls-every-duck-hunter-must-master

jimbrowning

Double Barrel wrote: »

Jim,
Some common sense information:
Find out their patterns, where the birds feed, where they want to be and put your decoys there or close by.
You can get by with a half dozen decoys if the ducks want to be there but you may need a big spread 6 dozen plus if you are just trying to draw them in.
Call sparingly unless you are good at it and I mean good. One sour note and the jig is up. Learn the call's in the off season.
Variety in your decoy spread is more important in my opinion, a few teal mixed in with a dozen mallards of wigeon add variety and realism. Keep the teal together. Space the mallard deeks about a meter apart and leave a landing spot in the centre. Face the deeks into the wind. Location is perhaps the most important aspect of waterfowling. Basically, hunt where you’ve seen ducks. Shallow backwaters off big rivers, smaller ponds, big ponds, etc. - try and situate on their preferred flight lines. Confidence decoys, a ( heron, seagull, pigeon, crow etc.) add that settled look and realism.



Pick up any shiny objects- plastic bottles, cans etc. -flotsam and jetsam - in the vicinity of your hide.

Good luck.


http://www.ducks.org/hunting/duck-calling/8-calls-every-duck-hunter-must-master

thanks for your help.
theres a nice shallow little bay on this lake, i often see the mallard there early morning when the sun is on it.
is it worth feeding an area like this?

nigelm485

i shot 14 mallard tonight and it is the second last day in season.


get yourself 20 to 30 decoys or whatever u can afford. buy a logvogal duck caller and your set

bunny shooter

nigelm485 wrote: »

i shot 14 mallard tonight and it is the second last day in season.


get yourself 20 to 30 decoys or whatever u can afford. buy a logvogal duck caller and your set

Using an electronic call to lure game in a hunting/shooting situation is ILLEGAL

From 1976 Wildlife Act...............

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1976/en/act/pub/0039/sec0035.html#sec35

35.—(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in this Act apart from this section, but subject to section 42, a person shall not—

(a) use as a scarecrow any live wild bird which is tethered, or

(b) use as a decoy for the purpose of hunting any wild bird a live wild bird which is tethered or secured by braces or other similar appliances or which is confined in a cage or pen or which is blind, maimed or injured, or

(c) use a stuffed or artificial decoy in the form of any bird for the purpose of hunting any protected wild birds, other than wild duck and wild geese, or

(d) use an electrical or other instrument or appliance (including recording apparatus) emitting or imitating birdcalls or the calls of wild mammals for the purpose of hunting a protected wild bird or a protected wild animal which is a mammal.

Spunk84

then would that not mean decoys cant be used?

Double Barrel

Spunk,

It means one can not use "tethered live birds" as decoys.

nigelm485

sorry there now if your goin to be like that.... im just tellin ye what works for me ye asked

J.R.

Spunk84 wrote: »

then would that not mean decoys cant be used?

Decoys are legal for ducks and geese:


From 1976 Wildlife Act...............

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1976/...035.html#sec35

35.—(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in this Act apart from this section, but subject to section 42, a person shall not—

(a) use as a scarecrow any live wild bird which is tethered, or

(b) use as a decoy for the purpose of hunting any wild bird a live wild bird which is tethered or secured by braces or other similar appliances or which is confined in a cage or pen or which is blind, maimed or injured, or

(c) use a stuffed or artificial decoy in the form of any bird for the purpose of hunting any protected wild birds, other than wild duck and wild geese, or

(d) use an electrical or other instrument or appliance (including recording apparatus) emitting or imitating birdcalls or the calls of wild mammals for the purpose of hunting a protected wild bird or a protected wild animal which is a mammal.

bunny shooter

nigelm485 wrote: »

sorry there now if your goin to be like that.... im just tellin ye what works for me ye asked

And I'm just telling you that it is illegal, which doesn't seem to bother you :rolleyes:

Hopefully you'll get what you deserve

Spunk84

bunny shooter wrote: »

And I'm just telling you that it is illegal, which doesn't seem to bother you :rolleyes:

Hopefully you'll get what you deserve

Such hostility

bunny shooter

Spunk84 wrote: »

Such hostility

I wouldn't consider it hostility.............more hoping he gets caught and prosecuted

johngalway

nigelm485 wrote: »

sorry there now if your goin to be like that.... im just tellin ye what works for me ye asked

What's working for you is breaking the law. Not only do shooters have to be within the law, they have to be seen to be within the law. It's tricky enough to get licenses for some people without other people publicly abusing those they were granted.

It'd be better form to thank those trying to save you from yourself, rather than taking a swipe at them. Between this thread and a couple of others, I'd strongly suggest you brush up on some laws before posting.

Spunk84

J.R. wrote: »

Decoys are legal for ducks and geese:


From 1976 Wildlife Act...............

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1976/...035.html#sec35

35.—(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in this Act apart from this section, but subject to section 42, a person shall not—

(a) use as a scarecrow any live wild bird which is tethered, or

(b) use as a decoy for the purpose of hunting any wild bird a live wild bird which is tethered or secured by braces or other similar appliances or which is confined in a cage or pen or which is blind, maimed or injured, or

(c) use a stuffed or artificial decoy in the form of any bird for the purpose of hunting any protected wild birds, other than wild duck and wild geese, or

(d) use an electrical or other instrument or appliance (including recording apparatus) emitting or imitating birdcalls or the calls of wild mammals for the purpose of hunting a protected wild bird or a protected wild animal which is a mammal.

so back on topic as "it" started off interesting. Electronic callers are illegal but would that not mean duck callers i.e mouth ones be illegal also as it is an instrument or appliance? let us know