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going to go to billy martin

  • 07-12-2010 11:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭


    After a long think and reading a lot on this i am going to book an oppointment with billy martin,,,!! Im only 19 and going through a very hard time at the moment,,seeing pschyarist,depession etc etc. I dont no why im going to see a pschyic but just feel desperate and wana go and see what happens,,feel like things have been as tough as they could have been,,!! Hope its a good idea..???
    if any has been in the same situation and went ta billy,,please let me no??
    and would anyone be able to tell me how long it usually takes to see him after you make an oppintment,
    thanks!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭skepticalone


    hi phesanttail, im sorry you are going thru a hard and difficult time at present , and i hope things work out for you , I just wanted to add that seeking the services of a psychic when you are depressed or on medication for depression is definately not a good idea , there are many unscrupulous psychics out there who have no issue preying on vunerable people , i am not suggesting that billy is one of them , I just wish to add this advice to your situation . NO psychic of any ethics would agree to read for you if they knew you were suffering from depression at the moment , as you may be very impressionable , or make take advice out of context and harm your own wellbeing , please explore other avenues to help you cope and always remember YOU make your own future . take care (((hugs))))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    Thanks skepticalone,,maybe im not that bad like theres a lot of people on this a lot worse off,,i duno i just wana try something different!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    sorry for your predicament pal but my opinion is to avoid psychics!! and bear in mind im a big fan of Billy....if you need help then continue to seek professional help and not that of someone whos "gift" isnt scientifically proven and may not work for you and if it does you may not like what you hear...far too risky

    i went to Billy first when i was in a bit of a mess and he told me what would happen, i didnt like what he was saying so ignored him, ultimately he was right, come to think of it, hes never really given me any good bloody news...lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    okaay lads i am starting to rethink,,i dunoo seemed a good option,,can yous please tell me how long of a waiting list there is?????with billy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    okaay lads i am starting to rethink,,i dunoo seemed a good option,,can yous please tell me how long of a waiting list there is?????with billy..

    not too long, max a month but you could ring and get an appointment the next day sort of thing, he's full everyday but some cancel, so its potluck really

    look, if you are goin to see him for the craic and for strict entertainment then fire away but if its not id steer clear, also, tell if to not tell you the bad stuff from the start, otherwise he could predict all sorts

    for eg during my last reading he blurted out

    "i see you at a friend but not a close friends funeral, you wont know many of the other mourners"

    that happened a fortnight ago, f#cked up!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    celtic1888 wrote: »
    not too long, max a month but you could ring and get an appointment the next day sort of thing, he's full everyday but some cancel, so its potluck really

    look, if you are goin to see him for the craic and for strict entertainment then fire away but if its not id steer clear, also, tell if to not tell you the bad stuff from the start, otherwise he could predict all sorts

    for eg during my last reading he blurted out

    "i see you at a friend but not a close friends funeral, you wont know many of the other mourners"


    that happened a fortnight ago, f#cked up!!!





    okaay i get u,,u dont want that..!!!
    im going ta try ring 2moro,,was thinking of teling him not to tell me anything past 5 years soo i cant go too wrong..like im excited but very nevrous yano!! hopefuly be worth it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    okaay i get u,,u dont want that..!!!
    im going ta try ring 2moro,,was thinking of teling him not to tell me anything past 5 years soo i cant go too wrong..like im excited but very nevrous yano!! hopefuly be worth it!

    about the 5 year thing...remember YOU make your own future, not Billy Martin or the man in the moon....Billy will just highlight your current path and what will happen if you continue on that path and will predict the near future to a tee if he connects to you...he will also rattle on about your past and present and could WOW you with specifics, certain things are set in stone like deaths etc but you alone decide what you are goin to do, no one else

    best to jot down his predictions and put them away for a year and then look at them in hindsight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭MrMojoRisin


    I seriously would not recommend seeing Billy Martin (or any other psychic) in the state of mind you're in now. Billy, particularly so, because he's a very blunt and abrupt person. He might be good at what he does, but he's a bit of a prick otherwise.

    What you need to do is to continue attending counselling, being advised by someone who has a medical understanding of what you're going through and who can offer you some pragmatic help. As celtic said, psychics are only worth going to if you're looking for a bit of entertainment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    I seriously would not recommend seeing Billy Martin (or any other psychic) in the state of mind you're in now. Billy, particularly so, because he's a very blunt and abrupt person. He might be good at what he does, but he's a bit of a prick otherwise.

    What you need to do is to continue attending counselling, being advised by someone who has a medical understanding of what you're going through and who can offer you some pragmatic help. As celtic said, psychics are only worth going to if you're looking for a bit of entertainment.

    bang on

    i wouldnt go as far as to say hes a prick but i can see why some people think that...

    either way, he is very blunt and is not an alternative for professional help or wouldnt claim to be...

    some people could come away far far worse from a reading with him (or any purported psychic)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    celtic1888 wrote: »
    bang on

    i wouldnt go as far as to say hes a prick but i can see why some people think that...

    either way, he is very blunt and is not an alternative for professional help or wouldnt claim to be...

    some people could come away far far worse from a reading with him (or any purported psychic)

    thanks but im just going to hope for the best!!
    I rang the yokon bar today around 3 o clock and got throught the fourth time calling,,i was talking to some lad called conor,,and i said i was going on my own so he told me to go down whenever and he'd fit me in,,so im going to go wednesday,,at half 2 when it starts..
    really really just hoping for the best,,wil let yas know how i get on!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭MrMojoRisin


    celtic1888 wrote: »
    bang on

    i wouldnt go as far as to say hes a prick but i can see why some people think that...

    either way, he is very blunt and is not an alternative for professional help or wouldnt claim to be...

    I suppose it depends on what you're used to dealing with as an individual. I'm unused to dealing with people who evince this sort of borderline arrogant bluntness in the way they come across, so maybe that's what it is from my P.O.V. I always say that it costs nothing to be nice. There's no doubt that Billy is an excellent, consistently on-target psychic, but his people skills need a lot of work (if he can be bothered).
    celtic1888 wrote: »
    some people could come away far far worse from a reading with him (or any purported psychic)

    Yeah, you do get a lot of these ones who spout an awful lot of crap that prompts people to make ultimately detrimental decisions in their lives based on that. One thing about Billy Martin is that, as blunt as he is, he doesn't mince his words and bullsh*t you in any way.

    PheasantTail, there won't be a set appointment time as such. You turn up and how soon you see Billy depends on whether or not he's already reading for someone at that time, or if he's even in the pub then. You can always go out for a bit of lunch down the street and come back to see if he's ready to see you anyway. They (the person behind the bar) will give you a ticket on the day to mark your appointment, so to speak.

    Yeah, it'd be good if you can report on how the reading went for you. Should be interesting. Good luck, and I hope you find what you're looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭t0mm13b


    Whatever you do, do not go to psychics... I made that mistake that changed my life forever which I will not go into... needless to say I was suffering from depression at the time and things went from bad to worse... let's just say a lot of bad things happened when I was in my most vulnerable frame of mind....

    DO NOT PASS GO!!!

    You'd be better off to visit your GP and sort out the depression and get yourself looked after - I am on effexor and feel miles better than the state I was in, but.... I have no intention of going anywhere near so-called psychics, they are all charlatans, the right bluddy lot of them... If you read this and get the vibe of seriousness behind this - feel free to pm me if you wish and I will explain why but... as this is for the public viewing, my experience of it that changed me forever.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    t0mm13b wrote: »
    Whatever you do, do not go to psychics... I made that mistake that changed my life forever which I will not go into... needless to say I was suffering from depression at the time and things went from bad to worse... let's just say a lot of bad things happened when I was in my most vulnerable frame of mind....

    DO NOT PASS GO!!!

    You'd be better off to visit your GP and sort out the depression and get yourself looked after - I am on effexor and feel miles better than the state I was in, but.... I have no intention of going anywhere near so-called psychics, they are all charlatans, the right bluddy lot of them... If you read this and get the vibe of seriousness behind this - feel free to pm me if you wish and I will explain why but... as this is for the public viewing, my experience of it that changed me forever.....


    Now you have me worried!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    Now you have me worried!

    you dont seem to be in the right frame of mind to be goin to see any alleged psychic, never mind Billy! regardless of what that fella says, Billy is genuine but that doesnt make a blind bit of difference, if you are ill, go to a Doctor not a psychic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    Thanks everyone!!!!
    em im going to go tomorrow anyways and fingers crossed be good,,wil let yas know evrything tomorrow!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    KAY...so i finally made it too billy today,,didnt make an appointment just landed there and i was seen about an hour later,,dont think hes too busy as people cancelling with the weather!!
    Was talking to the lad that owns the bar,,he said billy is one of the best,,said he had had people all over ireland and europe and lots came back to see him a second time,,all heard from billy from word of mouth which is truly amazing and shows he is doing something right!!

    Anyways i seen billy today,,was very nervous as because of my situation,,seen him for 15 minutes which i think is standard enough!!
    The first thing i told him was that i dint want to know anything past 5 years,,for lots of reasons like even thought id read into what he didnt say if you get me!! But anyways he looked at my hand for about 10 seconds,,and he askd why u dont want to know past 5 years in the future and i explained why,,and he told me basically its good :) so there was no need to worry and he took it from there. After that,,the first thing he said to me was ur going throught a dramatic and emotional depression which he said was the first major thing he seen,,i wasnt geninuley big believer of the whole pschyic business but i was amazed fom the word go!!! HE mentioned ill meet the girl ill marry in just over 12 months (im only 19) but we wait and see :)
    Em he to be honest didnt shock me much like about the past,,said about a relationship that finished in october which was correct,,im not sayn he got anything wrong but he tended to stick to the future which i guess was good,,he said id be better and over this in 6 months,,its a long way off but still,,reassuring all the same..!!!!!!mentioned some family grief,career correct etc..!
    Em i remember someone here sayn its for entertainment purposes etc,,but i was ****ing it going in haa,,he seems a genuine bloke,,gets straight to the point,,no bul****,,(but then again i was never with a pschyic before) but still,,he'd tell you absolutely anything good and even bad so its not for everyone like,,but i am happy i went..,,and i really hope hes correct on some of the things in the future,,!

    Can i ask,,others that have went to see billy,,things he told you,,6-18 months in the future,,even less,,was it true,,did it happen?????????

    And how long would you wait until you go back to see him again?????

    Celtic188.........??????(youve had good experience with him)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭MrMojoRisin


    KAY...so i finally made it too billy today,,didnt make an appointment just landed there and i was seen about an hour later,,dont think hes too busy as people cancelling with the weather!!
    Was talking to the lad that owns the bar,,he said billy is one of the best,,said he had had people all over ireland and europe and lots came back to see him a second time,,all heard from billy from word of mouth which is truly amazing and shows he is doing something right!!

    Anyways i seen billy today,,was very nervous as because of my situation,,seen him for 15 minutes which i think is standard enough!!
    The first thing i told him was that i dint want to know anything past 5 years,,for lots of reasons like even thought id read into what he didnt say if you get me!! But anyways he looked at my hand for about 10 seconds,,and he askd why u dont want to know past 5 years in the future and i explained why,,and he told me basically its good :) so there was no need to worry and he took it from there. After that,,the first thing he said to me was ur going throught a dramatic and emotional depression which he said was the first major thing he seen,,i wasnt geninuley big believer of the whole pschyic business but i was amazed fom the word go!!! HE mentioned ill meet the girl ill marry in just over 12 months (im only 19) but we wait and see :)
    Em he to be honest didnt shock me much like about the past,,said about a relationship that finished in october which was correct,,im not sayn he got anything wrong but he tended to stick to the future which i guess was good,,he said id be better and over this in 6 months,,its a long way off but still,,reassuring all the same..!!!!!!mentioned some family grief,career correct etc..!
    Em i remember someone here sayn its for entertainment purposes etc,,but i was ****ing it going in haa,,he seems a genuine bloke,,gets straight to the point,,no bul****,,(but then again i was never with a pschyic before) but still,,he'd tell you absolutely anything good and even bad so its not for everyone like,,but i am happy i went..,,and i really hope hes correct on some of the things in the future,,!

    Can i ask,,others that have went to see billy,,things he told you,,6-18 months in the future,,even less,,was it true,,did it happen?????????

    And how long would you wait until you go back to see him again?????

    Celtic188.........??????(youve had good experience with him)

    Jesus, I just wrote a fairly lengthy reply to your post there and it seemed to evaporate into thin air. Irritating...

    I'm glad you had a positive experience with Billy Martin. I hope you find the sort of 'personal utopia' you're seeking (like most people do). I know what it's like to be depressed following the break-up of a relationship - the girl I was with cheated on me with some gobsh*te and she subsequently became knocked up by him and kept the baby. I felt so angry and worthless for months afterwards. Sh*t happens, as they say.

    Yeah, 15 mins is the average time Martin spends with people, although I was with him for about 20 mins before I walked out (I didn't like him, as I've stated before), although he said that he "hadn't even begun" with me. He's good at what he does though. He predicted I'd be working in the arts and healing (simultaneously, it seemed) a few years from then, which is a world away from what I do now (engineering). We'll see. He was correct about my past. He nailed a lot. Obviously, I had said feck all to 'help him'.

    Celtic is the one to talk to about conclusive, uncanny experiences with Billy Martin!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    KAY...so i finally made it too billy today,,didnt make an appointment just landed there and i was seen about an hour later,,dont think hes too busy as people cancelling with the weather!!
    Was talking to the lad that owns the bar,,he said billy is one of the best,,said he had had people all over ireland and europe and lots came back to see him a second time,,all heard from billy from word of mouth which is truly amazing and shows he is doing something right!!

    Anyways i seen billy today,,was very nervous as because of my situation,,seen him for 15 minutes which i think is standard enough!!
    The first thing i told him was that i dint want to know anything past 5 years,,for lots of reasons like even thought id read into what he didnt say if you get me!! But anyways he looked at my hand for about 10 seconds,,and he askd why u dont want to know past 5 years in the future and i explained why,,and he told me basically its good :) so there was no need to worry and he took it from there. After that,,the first thing he said to me was ur going throught a dramatic and emotional depression which he said was the first major thing he seen,,i wasnt geninuley big believer of the whole pschyic business but i was amazed fom the word go!!! HE mentioned ill meet the girl ill marry in just over 12 months (im only 19) but we wait and see :)
    Em he to be honest didnt shock me much like about the past,,said about a relationship that finished in october which was correct,,im not sayn he got anything wrong but he tended to stick to the future which i guess was good,,he said id be better and over this in 6 months,,its a long way off but still,,reassuring all the same..!!!!!!mentioned some family grief,career correct etc..!
    Em i remember someone here sayn its for entertainment purposes etc,,but i was ****ing it going in haa,,he seems a genuine bloke,,gets straight to the point,,no bul****,,(but then again i was never with a pschyic before) but still,,he'd tell you absolutely anything good and even bad so its not for everyone like,,but i am happy i went..,,and i really hope hes correct on some of the things in the future,,!

    Can i ask,,others that have went to see billy,,things he told you,,6-18 months in the future,,even less,,was it true,,did it happen?????????

    And how long would you wait until you go back to see him again?????

    Celtic188.........??????(youve had good experience with him)

    delighted you had a good experience with him....its mad how he twigged you were goin through depression etc

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055983066&highlight=celtic1888

    have a look at that thread, ive talked about him on it

    with regards his predictions, hes very accurate and good at timeframes too BUT those predictions he gave you are very general and can change with your free will, ie you might meet the bird you could marry in his timeframe but you might decide she isnt for you etc and things will change

    id be more interested in getting past your current emotional state, dont sit and wait for what he says to happen, your part in it is to live life normally and effectively forget about predictions, you alone choose your path and the one & only thing id take as gospel from Billys future based reading is that hes seen you heading in the right direction emotionally which is great and i assume why you went so you should be very happy with that (im sure you are:)), how you get there is free will and a certain amount of fate

    some things are set in stone and others are down to us to decide which is good to remember

    you'll see me raving about his predictions on that thread, the best accuracy ive found to be from questions ive asked him about things that were about to happen in my life and not just his general generic sounding predictions and sometimes he'll change mid stream while talking about something and blurt out a very specific event ie deaths with me

    id wait 6 months minimum before you go back and next time maybe have a list of specifics to ask him about the future and remember you map out your path not Billy, he'll just give you the path your on at the time of your reading which in this instance is good for you, happy days:D

    hes brutally honest so its great he sees you on the right road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    Thanks very much celtic and mrmojo!!

    Em ok 6 months,,is that ta do with like not wasteing money??or em like is that not to over exploit it or something?? Its just if i went back id have more questions and if he sames much the same things then hes really bang on the money!

    Sorry about what you said there mrmojo,**** really does happen and one can only hope the worst is behind us! how long you think it took ya ta properly get over it??

    And lads this is something totally different and probably the wrong place to ask is but as anyone ever tryed hypnotism?? and if so how did it go and if not why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    Thanks very much celtic and mrmojo!!

    Em ok 6 months,,is that ta do with like not wasteing money??or em like is that not to over exploit it or something?? Its just if i went back id have more questions and if he sames much the same things then hes really bang on the money!

    Sorry about what you said there mrmojo,**** really does happen and one can only hope the worst is behind us! how long you think it took ya ta properly get over it??

    And lads this is something totally different and probably the wrong place to ask is but as anyone ever tryed hypnotism?? and if so how did it go and if not why?


    you need to give things a chance to change and you need to live your life, do not get addicted to it too...he's very consistent too and will say pretty much the same things unless something has drastically changed due to your free will etc...

    give it the 6 months and be a little better prepared next time now that you know what to expect


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭MrMojoRisin


    Thanks very much celtic and mrmojo!!

    Em ok 6 months,,is that ta do with like not wasteing money??or em like is that not to over exploit it or something?? Its just if i went back id have more questions and if he sames much the same things then hes really bang on the money!

    The wait is suggested to enable events to unfold, and also, similarly, because your 'energy' and what's around you in your life only show change in cycles of around six months at a time. And yeah, you'd be wasting your money to go back within, say, three months of already having a reading done because there wouldn't be much different things to say to you since the previous visit.
    Sorry about what you said there mrmojo,**** really does happen and one can only hope the worst is behind us! how long you think it took ya ta properly get over it??

    It took me about a maximum of six months to fully get the anger and disappointment out of my system, but I had never seen myself as being with that girl for the rest of my life, or anything. I think that realisation lessened the blow a bit. Things always get worse before they get better again. You just focus on other things and, before long, you find you don't find yourself thinking about various crap, e.g. messy break-ups, anymore.
    And lads this is something totally different and probably the wrong place to ask is but as anyone ever tried hypnotism?? and if so how did it go and if not why?

    I tried past life regression with a hynotherapist around 18 months ago on the recommendation of a friend. I thought it'd be interesting to give it a go. I filled in a short questionnaire, before sitting back in a chair with headphones on (in which I could hear the hypnotherapist talking, along with some meditative-type music) and with my eyes shut for roughly an hour. He led me on some sort of guided meditation where I had to imagine stuff like a forest and a blue mist until I found myself entering my most recent past life (well, apparently).

    I was relaxed throughout it all but I didn't feel I was hypnotised at all - like, I was totally 'with it', the same as if I were filling up my petrol tank. I asked him afterwards under what conditions could a person not be hypnotised and he said (A) if they're medicated, drunk or on drugs, or (B) if they are of below-average intelligence (they can't follow visualisation exercises). Well, A didn't apply to me so I must be a bit of a thicko! Lol.

    I also mentioned to him that 'false memory' thing where it's said that what people experience under hypnosis are merely memories that have been repressed in the subconscious. There was a fairly well-known case of an American woman named Virginia Tighe who, under hypnosis, said she was born as Bridey Murphy in 1798 in a Protestant family in Cork and was able to talk in an Irish accent, sing Irish songs, etc. Research found that the details she provided were correct and everyone was like, "Gee, wo-ow - this lady really was Bridey Murphy in a past life in I-ARR-LIND (Ireland)." :D That was, however, until newspaper reporters found that there had been a woman named Bridie Murphy Corkell who lived just across the street from Virginia Tighe when she was growing up. So, the memories Tighe stated under hypnosis were not memories of a past life, but those of her early childhood. D'oh!

    Anyway, the hypnotherapist I saw said that it doesn't really matter what people see or experience under hypnosis, just as long as they get something positive out of it to enhance their lives. That was his argument. I just found the experience interesting - that's what I got out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    naa i let hyonoism go :)

    Em my sister and 2 friends went to see billy this week,they had it booked for a couple of weeks,i wasnt realy talking to my sister much about it at all,i dont know what all was said,

    but the first girl,billy tod her that her father was on his death bed two years ago which was bang on!

    the second girl all aged 18,went in and billy told her welcom back which was true :),,billy told her that last time she was there,a good friend would be kiled in a car accident and billy confirmed it and said it has allready happened,billy told her that her little sister was happy but missing her other half??? she went home and asked her mam and found out for the first time ever that she was suppose to be a twin but there was a death or something not sure,.

    i dont know what he told me sister as dont talk ta her but mam said that billy kept going on about me to her,saying that "you haave a brother very depressed,he can continue taking medication and be better in june and if he stops taking medication he wil end up in hospital"

    Weird or what but good,there probably lots more but thats all i was told by someone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    naa i let hyonoism go :)

    Em my sister and 2 friends went to see billy this week,they had it booked for a couple of weeks,i wasnt realy talking to my sister much about it at all,i dont know what all was said,

    but the first girl,billy tod her that her father was on his death bed two years ago which was bang on!

    the second girl all aged 18,went in and billy told her welcom back which was true :),,billy told her that last time she was there,a good friend would be kiled in a car accident and billy confirmed it and said it has allready happened,billy told her that her little sister was happy but missing her other half??? she went home and asked her mam and found out for the first time ever that she was suppose to be a twin but there was a death or something not sure,.

    i dont know what he told me sister as dont talk ta her but mam said that billy kept going on about me to her,saying that "you haave a brother very depressed,he can continue taking medication and be better in june and if he stops taking medication he wil end up in hospital"

    Weird or what but good,there probably lots more but thats all i was told by someone!

    now thats F#CKED up....how the hell does he do it!!! keep on taking that bleeding medication so and didnt he tell you that it'd take 6 months to get better? and then he tells your sister the same:eek: and that about the twin child:eek:

    did that girl have a friend that was killed in a car accident? i assume she did, again thats mental!!

    wouldnt be too hung up on the "welcome back" bit, he says that to most:D

    had two pals with me the last time i went and they are still in shock....certain things have happened or been confirmed since and they really are in a tizzy about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    celtic1888 wrote: »
    now thats F#CKED up....how the hell does he do it!!! keep on taking that bleeding medication so and didnt he tell you that it'd take 6 months to get better? and then he tells your sister the same:eek: and that about the twin child:eek:

    did that girl have a friend that was killed in a car accident? i assume she did, again thats mental!!

    wouldnt be too hung up on the "welcome back" bit, he says that to most:D

    had two pals with me the last time i went and they are still in shock....certain things have happened or been confirmed since and they really are in a tizzy about it


    I dont think anyone would believe any of that stuff until they go and actually experience it!
    Ya i was hopeing you'd notice that,6 months from now is june truely shocking couldnt get over it like,really does back him up,how does he do that!
    And yes the girl did have a lad killed in a crash,a local lad not so long ago,billy remembered having her before and that he told her that and that it has now occured,and the thing with the twin,you wouldnt believe it unless you had some experience with it unreal :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    I dont think anyone would believe any of that stuff until they go and actually experience it!
    Ya i was hopeing you'd notice that,6 months from now is june truely shocking couldnt get over it like,really does back him up,how does he do that!
    And yes the girl did have a lad killed in a crash,a local lad not so long ago,billy remembered having her before and that he told her that and that it has now occured,and the thing with the twin,you wouldnt believe it unless you had some experience with it unreal :)

    amazing stuff

    i imagine your delighted, keep on those pills so:D

    a pal of mine who has been asked him how he does it, as have i before, he told my mate that he gets images of things around people so i assume that accounts for him blurting out specific predictions when he may be talking about something else altogether...like deaths with me

    the man is the genuine article, doesnt work for everyone of course but i firmly believe he is the real deal

    the last time i was with him, he was telling me about a girl that had visited him, he told her she was pregnant, she said she had only got confirmation that day that she couldnt have kids, she had got tests done 3 weeks prior to the reading, he persisted...long story short, she turned up at the pub a week or so later and confirmed that billy was right...she must have gotten pregnant in the 3 week window from the tests to the reading...thats mad!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    okay thats just unbelieveably weird :) and thats only what you/me/anyone here has heard about!

    Its only after you go to him you realise all the people that went,:) my aunt and a friend went 5 or 6 years ago or something like that,the other girl was drunk before she went in ha and was asking billy questions or something and he hold her to go home if she doubts him or something and told her to come back that hes not going to read her now!
    And my aunt haa took off her wedding ring and put in in her pocket before she went in and she sat down and billy told her "you needen be trying to con me,put your ring back on" and smiled,me aunt got up and left as she was so freaked out for a second but went back in a minute later and was overall startled with what he said,especially about all he told her about what she got up to in america ages back.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭celtic1888


    okay thats just unbelieveably weird :) and thats only what you/me/anyone here has heard about!

    Its only after you go to him you realise all the people that went,:) my aunt and a friend went 5 or 6 years ago or something like that,the other girl was drunk before she went in ha and was asking billy questions or something and he hold her to go home if she doubts him or something and told her to come back that hes not going to read her now!
    And my aunt haa took off her wedding ring and put in in her pocket before she went in and she sat down and billy told her "you needen be trying to con me,put your ring back on" and smiled,me aunt got up and left as she was so freaked out for a second but went back in a minute later and was overall startled with what he said,especially about all he told her about what she got up to in america ages back.:)


    scares the sh#t out of me to be honest....if hes good, hes amazing and obviously he can be cack for some people too

    have heard so many stories of mad predictions hes gotten right! and ive personally had mad experiences from his readings, im sure youve read that thread link i posted...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭pheasant tail


    Well i hope its okay to bring this back just said id post to say how i got on!

    Seen billy last week,was the first appointment of the day and he took me in early so i was real unprepared :) He said all the very same about my personality and health but possibly was a bit general like he seemed to ask a fair few questions! Some of the things i posted here before that he said would happen wel he explained why they didnt happen without me asking him about it and it made total sense. My friend also seen him and the first thing he said was did you lose a son and hes standing beside you and is happy and says not too feel bad and will return so she was shocked from the beginning! He told her all about her kids and when there where born and what was happening at that time.She got a brilliant reading,he give her some very specific details spot on about the past and some very complicated situations and bad events all off to a tee,and the stuff he told her about the future some of it was already half in the making and all very possible so she was delighted!

    I believe billy is brilliant and geting your past all right etc,but the future more difficult ,i think just say if your in a relationship with someone at the time you see him then he could correctly tell you if that will last like if things in your future are already happening or taking place,as someone on here said if your close to the path your going down then he will really connect with you. A lot of people i know have went down to see him since i last posted here,a lot of non believers who thought it was just a joke and they where all just shocked from the word go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 miss sugarray


    I believe billy is brilliant and geting your past all right etc,but the future more difficult ,i think just say if your in a relationship with someone at the time you see him then he could correctly tell you if that will last like if things in your future are already happening or taking place,as someone on here said if your close to the path your going down then he will really connect with you. A lot of people i know have went down to see him since i last posted here,a lot of non believers who thought it was just a joke and they where all just shocked from the word go![/QUOTE]

    I never went to billy, but I think you are very right in what you say about on the right path or near your right path, maybe thats why the reading never go further than two year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 purplelight


    Totally agree, you should not see a psychic right now, you could come away from it feeling a lot worse. If you insist on getting a reading anyway, I suggest maybe go to an angel card reader, that can be nice, I've never had any 'bad' news or anything with angel cards (providing you see a real reader and not a con!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 choosinganame


    I suggest you copy and paste this into youtube: Derren Brown explains to Dawkins why psychic readers are fake (part 1 of 6)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 miss sugarray


    I suggest you copy and paste this into youtube: Derren Brown explains to Dawkins why psychic readers are fake (part 1 of 6)

    I watched it and to me it seems like Darren Brown is finding it hard to even relax and look at the camera , and who is Darren Brown and why should we believe him :D:D:D:D bluffer if ever I saw one,,
    My psychic readers dont do cold reading , I sit back and let it happen , its obvious you haven't gone to many, :P:P:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭MrMojoRisin


    I suggest you copy and paste this into youtube: Derren Brown explains to Dawkins why psychic readers are fake (part 1 of 6)

    choosinganame, you've earned yourself an infraction for breaching the forum Charter and for contributing nothing useful to this thread in the process of doing same.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    I watched it and to me it seems like Darren Brown is finding it hard to even relax and look at the camera , and who is Darren Brown and why should we believe him :D:D:D:D bluffer if ever I saw one,,
    My psychic readers dont do cold reading , I sit back and let it happen , its obvious you haven't gone to many, :P:P:P

    He's better known than Mary Murphy or Psychic June or others on here. Both he and Keith Barry are frauds, they openly admit it. There is no magic or mystery in what they do. They don't have strange powers or contacts with people beyond the grave. They look at people, size them up and tailor their approaches accordingly. The difference is that they're willing to acknowledge and talk about their methods and don't abuse their knowledge to scam people. Personally speaking I'd believe what Derren or Keith have to say any day over the Psychic Junes or Mary Murphy's of this world.

    Put another way, if mediums really were gifted, they'd not be charging 50 quid a time for the services. Maybe some would but if I had the ability to help people I'd look at that as a vocation and public service rather than an earner. Keith and Derren make money from their profession but they're also trained in other skills and, at the end of the day are saying, "Yes, we can con you, and we're charging you 50 quid to come see our show but we're doing this for entertainment, we won't screw up your life".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭MrMojoRisin


    squonk wrote: »
    He's better known than Mary Murphy or Psychic June or others on here. Both he and Keith Barry are frauds, they openly admit it. There is no magic or mystery in what they do. They don't have strange powers or contacts with people beyond the grave. They look at people, size them up and tailor their approaches accordingly. The difference is that they're willing to acknowledge and talk about their methods and don't abuse their knowledge to scam people. Personally speaking I'd believe what Derren or Keith have to say any day over the Psychic Junes or Mary Murphy's of this world.

    Derren Brown and Keith Barry aren't 'frauds' because they were never trying to dupe anyone to start with. In all the instances where they pretended to be mediums, it was always done with the underlying, express intention of it being entertainment (or educational, if you want to look at it that way) and for public viewing (either in a theatre or on TV). Even my 11-year-old nephew knows it isn't real.

    Personally, if I was going to be a 'fraudulent medium', I wouldn't have hundreds of people who are 'in the know' watching me do it, or have a camera crew filming my 'readings' for the millions-strong viewing public later on.
    squonk wrote: »
    Put another way, if mediums really were gifted, they'd not be charging 50 quid a time for the services.

    I used to think the exact same thing for a very long time (and I thought €50 was too costly on top of that), but I now think that it's more a case of them charging 50 quid for their time, regardless of what they do or do not 'deliver'.
    squonk wrote: »
    Maybe some would but if I had the ability to help people I'd look at that as a vocation and public service rather than an earner.

    Come on. Most vocations, or jobs requiring the dispensation of public service, have to be wage-paying. Doctors, osteopaths, hairdressers, chiropractors, dentists, beauty therapists, counsellors, stylists, sales representatives, taxi drivers - they all help people in one way or another and they obviously should charge something for what they provide and for the hours they clock up.

    Even priests, who, arguably, don't help people as such, but who do provide a service to the public (saying mass, performing christenings, weddings, etc.), have to have some money to live on, which is why they depend on donations from their parish.

    Who says a vocation has to be a role where you get paid nothing for what you do? How the hell would you eat and keep a roof over your head?
    squonk wrote: »
    Keith and Derren make money from their profession but they're also trained in other skills and, at the end of the day are saying, "Yes, we can con you, and we're charging you 50 quid to come see our show but we're doing this for entertainment, we won't screw up your life".

    You do realise that their fake mediumship is part of the same profession they make money from, don't you? Or do you believe their fake mediumship via their live shows is a handy, little side earner? Lol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭skepticalone


    people suffering from depression should stay away from psychics and mediums , most will never take their money or read for them and are more likely to ask them to consult a medical professional not a tarot reader .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 choosinganame


    Derren Brown and Keith Barry aren't 'frauds' because they were never trying to dupe anyone to start with. In all the instances where they pretended to be mediums, it was always done with the underlying, express intention of it being entertainment (or educational, if you want to look at it that way) and for public viewing (either in a theatre or on TV). Even my 11-year-old nephew knows it isn't real.

    Personally, if I was going to be a 'fraudulent medium', I wouldn't have hundreds of people who are 'in the know' watching me do it, or have a camera crew filming my 'readings' for the millions-strong viewing public later on.



    I used to think the exact same thing for a very long time (and I thought €50 was too costly on top of that), but I now think that it's more a case of them charging 50 quid for their time, regardless of what they do or do not 'deliver'.



    Come on. Most vocations, or jobs requiring the dispensation of public service, have to be wage-paying. Doctors, osteopaths, hairdressers, chiropractors, dentists, beauty therapists, counsellors, stylists, sales representatives, taxi drivers - they all help people in one way or another and they obviously should charge something for what they provide and for the hours they clock up.

    Even priests, who, arguably, don't help people as such, but who do provide a service to the public (saying mass, performing christenings, weddings, etc.), have to have some money to live on, which is why they depend on donations from their parish.

    Who says a vocation has to be a role where you get paid nothing for what you do? How the hell would you eat and keep a roof over your head?



    You do realise that their fake mediumship is part of the same profession they make money from, don't you? Or do you believe their fake mediumship via their live shows is a handy, little side earner? Lol.

    OK one more thing, I think the point Squonk was making is that what Derren Brown and Keith Barry do isn't as deceiving as what Psychic's and Mediums do.
    And fair enough they should get paid for their time, but are they truthful about what they do? Is what they do dangerous for people with depression or mental health issues?
    After having a bad experience and doing some research I wouldn't recommend going unless it's for a bit of craic and you don't take it too seriously (my mistake) because they CAN get it wrong.

    From wikipedia:
    "Without prior knowledge of a person, a practiced cold reader can still quickly obtain a great deal of information about the subject by analyzing the person's body language, age, clothing or fashion, hairstyle, gender, sexual orientation, religion, race or ethnicity, level of education, manner of speech, place of origin, etc. "

    Cold reading isn't just about fishing for answers, these people can get an awful lot just from your appearance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭chinacup


    Don't know how I found this thread and sorry for bumping it after so long but just want to say WTF was Billy doing saying he should stay on his medication for 6months? That is out of line to the extreme and dangerous idiotic advice. Whatever about going to a medium for a bit of craic as choosingame said, giving advice on a medical decision is outrageous. Medications for certain people for over 6 months can cause long term damage. Is not for everyone.. I know people who's personalities changed for the worse after being on the wrong drugs / on it for too long / too high doses. Its seriously flawed practise if he's saying things like that. If I ever saw him I'd clout him for that!
    OP sorry for crashing the thread like this and my negative view on it but its mostly that aspect I don't agree with. Also just want to know your opinion on the experience after a years passed? Would you go back again?


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