New Mixer 600-800 €

VinylJunkie

Looking to spend in and around 600-800 should I look past this Allen&Heath Xone 42

I will be selling a DJM-600 Black if anyone is after one.

jtsuited

Xone 42 seems like the ideal candidate imo.

dubsbhoy

Why is this a better mixer then the pioneers ?

Paul1979

Much better sound

dubsbhoy

Paul1979 wrote: »

Much better sound

at a cheaper price ?

Whats the downside ?

YOP1992

dubsbhoy wrote: »

at a cheaper price ?

Whats the downside ?

effects, and the pioneer 'prestige'

VinylJunkie

Ive no need for effects, I rarely use the filter but as far as I'm aware this comes with the xone. I really don't think there is anything better, now ive to sell my old mixer and a few other bits and pieces to afford it.

Paul1979

Prestige?Most experienced DJs I know think pioneers sound ****e and look toy like

was.deevey

I'd be going with the A&H I reckon .. much better soundwise.

Might be worth looking at Ecler as an option as well

Pioneer are decent enough mixers but not in the same league as A&H for audio goodness.

Pioneer = 400 euro worth of mixer, rest = toys
A&H = All money @ sound quality

In having had the 600 before though think you can live without the FX ?

pioneer 'prestige'

= good marketing

Paul1979

It's amazing how pioneer have fooled people (especially new comers to djing) that their mixers are the premium product in the market..Clever marketing i suppose. How anyone could spend over 2k on the new one makes me wonder

was.deevey

Well they did 2 things

1. The pioneered the CD "Turntable"
2. They Brought out a Decent* 4 ch club mixer which matched the above turntable which had one of the first (if not THE first) useable DJ FX**unit which soon became requested on the rider of alot of big name jocks at the time.

*Decent: rivaled other mid range club mixers in Sound Quality / Build like Citronic at roughly the same price which were installed all over the place.

**Unless you had an external FX unit a sampler and some cat/dog sounds was the most you would get (and only on the really dodgy cheap Gemini style DJ mixers).

Pioneer = Toyota
A&H = BMW

IMHO of course

Paul1979

And original refurbished bozak/urei = bentley (sound wise)

jtsuited

yeah the money you spend on an A&H is really buying the audio circuitry (well up until their recent abomination of a djm competitor). Personally, I think the sound out of an A&H is a lot better than a Pioneer.
If you have no interest in the toys and just want a great sounding mixer, A&H trumps pioneer every time.
Check out the ecler stuff too.

was.deevey

And original refurbished bozak/urei = bentley (sound wise)

Forgot to mention Rane

jtsuited

Paul1979 wrote: »

And original refurbished bozak/urei = bentley (sound wise)

was it you who has the bozak?

when money is not an object I am getting one of those!!

VinylJunkie

The Ecler in the same price bracket has similar features apart from the A&H filter.

Paul1979

jtsuited wrote: »

was it you who has the bozak?

when money is not an object I am getting one of those!!

When that day comes, send me a pm and I'll give u some tips on who to buy it off in the states, what u should refurbish etc,

I got mine by selling my PIONEER CDJs, strictly analogue now,don't miss the cdj at all

http://94.245.116.11/att/GetAttachment.aspx?file=94db9157-0637-417c-97ba-303c64c9419f.jpg&ct=aW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d&name=RFNDXzAwMTYuanBn&inline=0&rfc=0&empty=False&imgsrc=&hm__login=paulnealejunior&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.211.4.8&d=d5425&mf=0&hm__ts=Wed%2c%2008%20Dec%202010%2008%3a43%3a01%20GMT&st=paulnealejunior&hm__ha=01_2ca2bccbc9f798fe6978b720e93f51eab5d059841c6c53803bea39b534c6fbd7&oneredir=1

Here is a pic of mine

YOP1992

Paul1979 wrote: »

Prestige?Most experienced DJs I know think pioneers sound ****e and look toy like

notice, 'prestige'

RMD

Pioneers you're paying the effects unit and a successful marketing campaign. AH you're paying for sound quality, that's about it. I'd go with the AH any day, once I get the money together AH is my only choice. If I want effects I'll buy an effects unit.

electrogrimey

I use the 42 every week in the Shaw, and it's a lovely mixer. Really nice EQs and faders, but the filter absolutely baffles me. Makes no sense. More DJs have come in giving out about it than praising it though, but I think it's more due to them being used to Pioneers than anything else.