Mad to leave hse job?

amy1plus2

Ok so I've been in the public sector for 8 years now. Im under 30 so not like im hanging in for a great retirement anytime soon. The thing is I absolutely HATE my job. As in, cannot stand it. It causes me so much frustration, anxiety, upset, fear..blah blah blah..I could go on. I have been offerred work in another place, pretty similar to what Im doing but a much nicer environment, colleagues, standards - I know because my DH works here. However, its a private establishment. Money would be pretty similar so ne real loss of earnings. Obviously the whole thing is leaving a "secure, pensionable, job-for-life". Im at my wits end as to what to do. It's fairly unlikely that this place would go bust but in these times, who knows what can happen right? Im currently out on sick leave and just cannot see myself going back without it causing real problems for me. The bullying issues alone are scandalous despite having been highlighted both privately and publicly. Just a bloody awful place to work. My position was not eligible to avail of the voluntary redundancy schemes which came out. I would have gladly taken one of them - I would have been able to clear some debt which would not have put me under as much pressure if the new job did not work out. I emailed them and stated that I would be willing to take redundancy yet they did not oblige me.
So, sorry for the long post but do you all think I would be mad to leave? Suppose Im just looking for non-family opinions. p.s I have a mortgage, other debts and 3 children...

Thanks

listermint

Hi

Thats a poor position to be in, On the VR issue. Did you contact the department charged with this or just your department head? Incidently did they outline the criteria to apply for VR or was it a blanket 'no your not elligible'

This would be my course of action.

amy1plus2

I actually contacted the scheme section themselves, sent various emails and was told it was a blanket "no" for my grade. Basically because they won't get any other staff to do our jobs . I've also amiled local politicians - for all the good it'll do. It just seems farcical that they will be looking to reduce Public Sector numbers over the coming years and yet they are refusing a volunteer for redundancy at what would be a low rate

listermint

Okay,

We'll you have tried with that route so thats not available. What i would suggest is weighing up the pro's and con's of both. Salary / Work Location / Travel expense / changes of advancement / Work life balance / working evironment.

If one has more 'browney points' from the list above then your decision has to be made. Life is too short to be depressed in a job. Not alone depressed but suffering more by staying in it just because there is some so called 'safety' in it. If it were me I would make the list and make my choice. I personally have moved jobs due to the mundane kicking in and basically lost the love or interest for the work.

Best of luck!

ronano

If you've not already done it,make a budget with your oh,see were you can save as much as you can so you have a cushion and leave. I know it's a risk but you've said the other company is not likely to go under,are you out on sick leave to avoid the place/related to it?

I know everyone will tell you to keep the secure job but if you can get the oh to agree then do it. You will be happier,less stressed most likely which will be good overall for yourself and your family.

You've got years of this petty bullying bs to deal with if you stay

good luck in whatever you choose

snorlax

amy1plus2 wrote: »

Ok so I've been in the public sector for 8 years now. Im under 30 so not like im hanging in for a great retirement anytime soon. The thing is I absolutely HATE my job. As in, cannot stand it. It causes me so much frustration, anxiety, upset, fear..blah blah blah..I could go on. I have been offerred work in another place, pretty similar to what Im doing but a much nicer environment, colleagues, standards - I know because my DH works here. However, its a private establishment. Money would be pretty similar so ne real loss of earnings. Obviously the whole thing is leaving a "secure, pensionable, job-for-life". Im at my wits end as to what to do. It's fairly unlikely that this place would go bust but in these times, who knows what can happen right? Im currently out on sick leave and just cannot see myself going back without it causing real problems for me. The bullying issues alone are scandalous despite having been highlighted both privately and publicly. Just a bloody awful place to work. My position was not eligible to avail of the voluntary redundancy schemes which came out. I would have gladly taken one of them - I would have been able to clear some debt which would not have put me under as much pressure if the new job did not work out. I emailed them and stated that I would be willing to take redundancy yet they did not oblige me.
So, sorry for the long post but do you all think I would be mad to leave? Suppose Im just looking for non-family opinions. p.s I have a mortgage, other debts and 3 children...

Thanks

Amy I was in a similar position to you last June. there was rampant bullying going in my department and lots of people were on sick leave because of it..

terrible really..in fact i ended up leaving my job after my union / manager didn't take it seriously and threatened disciplinary action against me if I didn't leave. They were really a disgraceful organisation to work for with no accountability. And a pity as there was some really good workers there who went unappreciated...

anyhow im working in the private sector now and although i'm not paid as much it's a pleasure to work for them they are so professional about things. Things just get done.no worrying..and people are so professional...it's complete madness how good it is and to be honest long term your health will suffer if you work in any job which takes it out of you so it's not worth it.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do

gandalf

TBH if you have been offered a job elsewhere and it has been confirmed that it is a decent workplace you should jump at it. You are currently off sick so this job is effecting your health. No job is worth that price. As for job security unfortunately I don't think that any jobs in the PS can be considered secure any longer and especially those in the HSE so I definitely would not be using that as a reason to stay.

You are in a good position, you have a job, you have been offered a new job. I'd suggest you talk things through with your other half and if you still feel its the right way to go then just do it. By the sounds of it you will be giving yourself a great Christmas present. Good luck.

Mrs OBumble

amy1plus2 wrote: »

The thing is I absolutely HATE my job. As in, cannot stand it. It causes me so much frustration, anxiety, upset, fear..blah blah blah..I could go on. .... - I know because my DH works here.

To me, you've pretty well answered you own question.

You spend a LOT of time at work. If you hate work that much, then you're going to be unhappy, and your kids are gong to be unhappy (as well as grow up thinking that work is hateful).

The only reservation I'd have is to do with the fact that your partner works there too: it can be risky for a family if both incomes are from the same company, and sometimes it can be awkward working in the same place as a partner.

Zipppy

gandalf wrote: »

TBH if you have been offered a job elsewhere and it has been confirmed that it is a decent workplace you should jump at it. You are currently off sick so this job is effecting your health. No job is worth that price. As for job security unfortunately I don't think that any jobs in the PS can be considered secure any longer and especially those in the HSE so I definitely would not be using that as a reason to stay.

You are in a good position, you have a job, you have been offered a new job. I'd suggest you talk things through with your other half and if you still feel its the right way to go then just do it. By the sounds of it you will be giving yourself a great Christmas present. Good luck.

Agreed ! Go for it.......

I'm a public servant, BSc & MSc and completely undervalued and underpaid...

Need to exit .. for my sanity..have an interview for a better paid private sector job on wednesday (postponed from Fri due to weather) and if I get it I'ff off..
They are a big company and little chance of going bust..but with the IMF now running the show there's no doubt that further public sector pay cuts (15% is rumoured) and maybe job cuts are looming...so I'm as well off outta here..

But I'm contemplating taking a three year career break and taking job (if Im lucky enough to get it..)

Can you not take a career break? I'm sure the HSE would love you to??

amy1plus2

Zippy, I didn't think ya could work while on a career break? If that was an option, I think I efo would - just to have some sort of security net. However, there's also the issue that I dont think my Managers would authorise a career break, even though it's not supposed to be based on personal decisions it would be ultimately, stating reasons like "would not suit service needs"...

fat__tony

How do you folk put up with such abuse and bullying?

Report the offenders, go above their heads and make an example of them.

I realise that this is easier said than done.

I have heard of such stories before and I'd like to think they are isolated incidents.

COYW

Very tough decision and I sympathise with you. Judging by your posts, you are extremely unhappy in your job and for that reason alone I would say leave and move to a new job. Best of luck in the new job, if you decide to move.

COYW

Duplicate post.

amy1plus2

Fat Tony - you would not believe how "high up" the complaints have gone. You would be shocked to hear of the scandals and cover up's that go on in our lovely health service, it's a disgrace, even the national press won't touch the information. Thats how much power these people have. Anyway, general consensus is to leave. Which I will hopefully aim to do by January - very difficult decision to make with all that is going on around us at the moment. Many thanks for all opinions.

Scráib

I was in a job that I hated. Not for the same reasons as yourself OP but I got fed up of it. I left, and now I'm (fingers crossed) about to pick up a new one.

The people in my previous job were grand, and I got on well with them. But still, the relief I had once I got out of the situation was immense. In your case I reckon you'd be a new woman once you got out of that situation.

In a lot of cases it's better to bite the bullet and get out of dodge rather than stay in a bad situation. And if your health is being affected and you have the offer of another job then it becomes a no-brainer.

Magenta

Get out, get out, get out!

You have one life, do not spend it miserable.
There are plenty more jobs out there- recession or no recession.

Prolonged stress like this can really harm your health, it's not worth it.

amy1plus2

I told DH the other day that I was going to post about my situation and get opinions from people. Immediately he said "well you know what everyone will say - dont leave a public sector job in these times". Have to say I thought he was right. Im shocked at how many encouraging and positive replies I've had telling me to go for it and leave and move on. Just think it's really nice to be honest that there haven't been any "yer lucky to have a job" shi*te from anybody! So we've made our minds up - Im gonna hand in my notice next week. Things have really been put into perspective for me. And for that I thank ye