(US) Dexter Season 5 Episode 11 - "Hop a Freighter" (SPOILERS WITHIN)

Amtmann

From wikipedia:

Dexter and Lumen's plans are momentarily thwarted when Dexter's forced to do damage control after he concedes that someone, outside of Miami Metro, has taken an interest in them. Debra's speculation on the missing Barrel Girl suspects begins to take shape. Quinn finds himself more involved in a homicide than he'd like to be.

amacachi

Oops, almost read that. :pac:

The Gnome

Average

Hmmmm....

Liddy really underestimated Dexter and Lumen made a really stupid move going to what her faces house alone. Also Quinn just leaving was a bit retarded. Still quite enjoyable though with some nice suspense in parts.

Really shouldn't have next weeks promo at the end, looks to good to be true!

Poor

Thought it was pretty poor penultimate episode myself. The killing Liddy thing while Quinn was outside was pretty lame. I thought it would have been better if Dexter had have killed him, then claimed self defence to Quinn, who would've shushed up the investigation due to him and Deb. Or at least set the van on fire to destroy the evidence.

Didn't watch the trailer for next week as USTV seems to f*** up trailers by revealing too much.

Amtmann

I don't know what it was, but this episode was terribly mediocre and boring. And ultra predictable. I couldn't care less about the finale, though I'll watch it for a sense of completeness.

speedboatchase

The Gnome wrote: »

Hmmmm....

Liddy really underestimated Dexter and Lumen made a really stupid move going to what her faces house alone. Also Quinn just leaving was a bit retarded. Still quite enjoyable though with some nice suspense in parts.

Really shouldn't have next weeks promo at the end, looks to good to be true!

A very very stupid move, but very very convenient for the writers

Ron DMC

Average

Twas good, not great.

Though I must say it has set things up nicely for the finale:
Liddy's body going to be discovered.
Dex catching up with Chase and Lumen.
And has Sonya booked a good magician for the party or not? Let's hope so.

Yitzhak Rabin

Average

It was alright. A bit too predictable for my liking though. Also, there's not really that fear element when Dex gets kidnapped, because you he's is just going to escape scott free. Its like one of those old batman films where you had to wait until next week to see can he escape, but there was no real suspense, because you knew he always would.

I'm really disappointed that the events of last series have just disappeared. They just completely dropped the trinity investigation with Deb just saying "They'll [FBI] will just mess it up like they always do". Hopefully both this storyline and the trinity one and the bay harbour butcher all come back to bite Dex in the ass next season. This series has been too predictable and textbook. You'd swear the writers have amnesia.

Also WTF was all that Santa Muerte jazz about?? They fairly dropped that ****e!

OctavarIan

The Gnome wrote: »

Really shouldn't have next weeks promo at the end, looks to good to be true!

Like every promo this season did :pac:

I think that Deb will definitely catch them in the act, but her recent empathy spikes will see her let them get away with it. '****! Go to your son's ****ing birthday oh **** **** walrus **** just go'. That'd be a soggy end to a soggy season though.

The writers need to deliver, big time. If everything is back to square one next season Dexter is finished for a lot of fans.

[edit] Also, when the nanny called and mentioned Astor and Cody, why was she alone at some café with Harrison? Surely Astor and Cody would have been around if so. I hope they don't turn her into a villain of some sort, that'd be so trite.

Poor

I haven't read the above spoiler, but if it pertains to next weeks episode, could you mention that?

OctavarIan

Papa Smut wrote: »

I haven't read the above spoiler, but if it pertains to next weeks episode, could you mention that?

Yeah to be safe don't read it if you're avoiding everything to do with the final episode. It mentions something that was hinted at in the final promo.

challengemaster

Poor

OctavarIan wrote: »

[edit] Also, when the nanny called and mentioned Astor and Cody, why was she alone at some café with Harrison? Surely Astor and Cody would have been around if so. I hope they don't turn her into a villain of some sort, that'd be so trite.

Full time nanny - I'd be assuming that they'd take a kid EVERYWHERE even if they just went for a coffee break. You'd assume that Astor/Cody aren't always going to be with Harrison... Also we're not sure if she's staying with the relations (probably not)

OctavarIan

challengemaster wrote: »

Full time nanny - I'd be assuming that they'd take a kid EVERYWHERE even if they just went for a coffee break. You'd assume that Astor/Cody aren't always going to be with Harrison... Also we're not sure if she's staying with the relations (probably not)

I'd have thought that Harrison would stay with the grandparents, Astor and Cody, seeing as they rarely get to see him now and it's his first birthday. Surely the nanny could go get a coffee and leave him with his actual blood family for a bit. Sure Dexter was quick enough to leave him with a mentally damaged rape victim he barely knew :pac:

challengemaster

Poor

OctavarIan wrote: »

I'd have thought that Harrison would stay with the grandparents, Astor and Cody, seeing as they rarely get to see him now and it's his first birthday. Surely the nanny could go get a coffee and leave him with his actual blood family for a bit. Sure Dexter was quick enough to leave him with a mentally damaged rape victim he barely knew :pac:

On the assumption that things are being portrayed as real, I doubt any full time nanny would leave a child out of their sight. Knowing what the US is like in terms of law suits, it could be a hefty price to pay for a coffee if anything happened to Harrison. After all, she's being payed to mind him....

The fact that Dex left harrison with lumen is kinda irrelavent to it

Dr. Baltar

Pretty good

I really enjoyed the suspense in this episode, but at the end of the day, this season is better than season 3 and after that it's fair shíte.

zimovain

Is the blood that dripped onto Quinns shoe come back and bite him in the ass? Next season he's arrested for Liddy's murder thus leaving Dex to 'fix it' somehow?

Or am I reading to much into it?

tvnutz

Poor

zimovain wrote: »

Is the blood that dripped onto Quinns shoe come back and bite him in the ass? Next season he's arrested for Liddy's murder thus leaving Dex to 'fix it' somehow?

Or am I reading to much into it?

I'd say you are spot on,the recording equipment is still in the truck,which was taken out under Quinn's name. So there is a connection there. Deb also saw Liddy at Quinn's apartment.

Moro Man

zimovain wrote: »

Is the blood that dripped onto Quinns shoe come back and bite him in the ass? Next season he's arrested for Liddy's murder thus leaving Dex to 'fix it' somehow?

Or am I reading to much into it?

Quinn, Lumen, Jordan Chase all wind up dead. The blood implicates Quinn for Liddys murder and Quinn and Lumen are named as the vigilante killer / man who loves her tag team.

Dexter conveniently slips into the background and Debra goes all doe-eyed for Quinn...


Sounds like a rehash of the Doakes / LaGuerta storyline in season 2...


Hope I'm wrong but it's the only way to tie up all the loose ends

Pepe LeFrits

... and Deb gives up on men altogether after falling in love with 2 serial killers!

Maybe Dex implicates Chase in Liddy's murder somehow? Quinn hiring Liddy to spy on Chase would be plausible enough.

ixoy

Pretty enjoyable but it's all a little too safe. Even when Quinn was stalking around the van, I felt none of the sofa-gripping tension that we saw in a similar scene in "Breaking Bad".

Sherifu

Pretty good

I thought it was pretty good but there was definitely a lack of tension when Dexter is kidnapped as said above. Should be more interesting with Lumen next week if Chase has her and i'm guessing he must have.

The whole Quinn/Liddy thing could go a number of ways but I think most likely is Quinn gets implicated in the murder, the question then is does he spill what he knows on Dexter or keep his mouth shut because he doesn't have enough evidence. There's still the pics in his appartment that Dexter needs to make disappear.

The promo from next week looks insane

Deb finding Dex!

but I am wondering if what they portray will come to pass or if they just edited it to look that way. If it does happen then :eek:

SDTimeout

Sadly had a version with the promo.

Good episode. Wanted Quinn to catch him, i really feel he would have agreed not to say anything as he had helped Quinn himself. Thought it was Lumen dead in the bedroom also. Was kind of hoping it would be.

If we're getting a Sixth season he gets off. I however do not want Quinn going down with him. Mainly for the tripe we will have to watch when Deb goes on about falling for the wrong guys.

OctavarIan

Quinn's name on the surveillance equipment, fingerprints all over the van, blood on his shoe, furious voicemail left on Liddy's phone.... yeah Quinn isn't in a good position.

I don't think he deserves to go down though. Sure he's a bit of a douche but he's not on Dexter's ass like Doakes or Liddy were.

Plus if he does this is what he'll be remembered for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3E4mJ1Ugs

challengemaster wrote:

On the assumption that things are being portrayed as real, I doubt any full time nanny would leave a child out of their sight. Knowing what the US is like in terms of law suits, it could be a hefty price to pay for a coffee if anything happened to Harrison. After all, she's being payed to mind him....

The fact that Dex left harrison with lumen is kinda irrelavent to it

Well nothing in the show seems to have any base in reality and there are gaping plotholes around every corner. I just thought it would have made sense for Harrison to be with his blood family but I can see your point yeah.

As for the Dexter leaving Harrison with Lumen that was just to show that crazier things have happened the child :P

the_monkey

Poor

OK Episode, but F*ck Dexter, that c*nt was about to kill a good man - Quinn, and then he killed my favourite character of this season , the code is out the window, now I really hope the motherf*cker gets caught.


Season 6 better end with him in the chair ....

SDTimeout

Knife was turned on Dex with intent though, i think the code is given a lapse there. However annoyed the writers didn't even paste over it. Hope we see Harry next week giving off to him or at least an cameo.

Mr Freeze

Average

Thought it was a good episode.

Really hope Quinn doesn't go down for Liddy's murder, or get killed or disposed of by Dexter as he thinks he is on to him.

Quinn hasn't doing anything in my opinion to deserve getting killed or framed, yes he was introduced as a dirty cop, but he was 100% right to suspect and investigate Dexter, same as Doakes was, and I was gutted when Doakes got killed, he didn't deserve it.

The series is renewed for a sixth season, but Dexters time has to be near up at this stage.

zimovain

Dex willing to kill Quinn is a sign for me that next season the code will be out the window. That's what Im hoping for anyway!

grames_bond

i know i am probably in the minority here but i have actually enjoyed this season! the slow pace with big payoff is very like the books (which i also like - i havent read the latest one thouhg....you hear me santa!?!?)

yeah it's no season 4, but i have enjoyed it!

DeWitt

Pretty good

You're mad, this season is brilliant. Can't wait for next week. **** is gonna hit the fan, and then we'll have the long wait for season 6. Colour me bummed.
As for the finale :

I hope Quinn doesn't take the fall on Liddy's death. The promo makes it look like Deb catches Dex in the act, but what if it's Quinn? Poor guy never catches a break.

evil_seed

Pretty good

So with the killing of Liddy what's the kill count for against the code?

In the promo

it shows a leather gloved hand holding a knife and deb goes drop it. It's not dexters hand it's lumens

. at least thats what I think

Blazer

Average

I'm amazed no-one mentioned wtf was the baby monitor doing on when Harrison was away
Plotholes are getting a bit ridiculous at this stage

DeWitt

Pretty good

Can't someone other than Quinn, Dex or Lumen be arrested ?

Gaaah!The anticapation is killing me.

mdwexford

Bad episode, bad season.

dr gonzo

Average

Papa Smut wrote: »

I thought it would have been better if Dexter had have killed him, then claimed self defence to Quinn, who would've shushed up the investigation due to him and Deb.

Exactly what i was expecting to happen. It would also have opened Dexter and Quinn's relationship a bit because with Dexter knowing that Quinn wasnt interested in going after him and Quinn going out with Deb there might be a softening which the writers could make something out of. Nope it was just a complete non event that wasted Liddy too, deadly character.

Minstrel27

Average

zimovain wrote: »

Is the blood that dripped onto Quinns shoe come back and bite him in the ass? Next season he's arrested for Liddy's murder thus leaving Dex to 'fix it' somehow?

Or am I reading to much into it?

That's exactly what I thought when watching and also the fingerprints are all over the van.

It hasn't been the best season but it is far from the worst thing on television at the moment.

thegoodgirl

Pretty good

I really loved this episode. I don't buy into looking for plot holes and things I just go with it, it makes it much more enjoyabke.
I really like Quinn and hope it's not him that gets arrested but I also Like Lumen, think her and Dexter are good together, I fianlly understand why the killed rita off.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode

thegoodgirl

Poor

thegoodgirl wrote: »

Can't wait to see next weeks episode

*crosses fingers*


Please kill Lumen off

Jools_452

Pretty good

Papa Smut wrote: »

*crosses fingers*


Please kill Lumen off

Nooo..please do not kill Lumen off, excellent character who has DEVELOPED, unlike Rita who stayed more or less the same for all 4 series-boring! Lumen and Dexter have way more chemistry!

Thought episode 11 was great, aside from the killing of Liddy-should really have been left until final episode and a LOT more could have been made of this...

Wouldn't really like to see Quinn killed either, seriously that would be Deb's 3rd (or is it 4th?!) boyf killed off in as many series...I know shes tough but..?!

Don't think Deb will catch Dexter..I reckon she will Lumen though!

I didn't think much at start of this series but last few episodes have really impressed!

Cianan2

I cant stand Lumen, I also hope she dies before the season is over!!

I love Quinn (and I'm not afraid to say it!), so I am hoping he doesn't get pinned for Liddy's murder.

Tristram

Poor

Lumen has to die or get the **** out of town imo

Jools_452

Pretty good

Tristram wrote: »

Lumen has to die or get the **** out of town imo

Why the hatred for Lumen????? If gonna detest anyone its gotta be Maria whats her name.......

Blazer

Average

Jools_452 wrote: »

Why the hatred for Lumen????? If gonna detest anyone its gotta be Maria whats her name.......

exactly...the same people who were calling for Rita to be killed was bitching afterwards about Dexter's development and what this would do to him..
christ if you keep killing off ppl Dexter will be the only one left in it..

dr gonzo

Average

Sc@recrow wrote: »

christ if you keep killing off ppl Dexter will be the only one left in it..

Its funny you should mention that. I was reading article (as in not a thread but a proper article) on tv.com and the author was saying the worst thing about Dexter was some of the characters, she then went on to list EVERY recurring character in the series. The point is if we keep killing characters off we dont have a show.

In saying that i dont like Lumen but if shes used interestingly rather just another fatality it could be good. Whatever the case they cant keep her for another series, that would both suck and go against everything that Dexter is about, hes a lone wolf.

As for the series, it was pretty uneventful and, if im honest, a little lazy too. John Lithgow was a true villian and while Johnny Lee Miller is doing a decent job with the material he has, the set up is just plain dull. Dexter and Quill are coming to a head which should be really interesting but if they fcuk that up too this season will have been a complete waste of time.

amacachi

Am I the only one who felt like hitting themselves when they saw the Miami Metro label on the bug/camera? Or am I giving cops too much credit? :pac:

jayteecork

Really OTT episode.

I think Lumen will take the rap to save Dexter, maybe she'll die, maybe she'll go to prison and get the chair.

Funny also that Dex had no remorse after offing Liddy. Liddy doesn't come anywhere near making the code. He was just a dirty cop on the take, kind of like an older Quinn.

dr gonzo

Average

jayteecork wrote: »

Funny also that Dex had no remorse after offing Liddy. Liddy doesn't come anywhere near making the code. He was just a dirty cop on the take, kind of like an older Quinn.

Technically he does fall under the code, "rule no 1. Dont get caught" but im not sure to what extent Dexter is allowed go to keep that rule.

seadnamac

amacachi wrote: »

Am I the only one who felt like hitting themselves when they saw the Miami Metro label on the bug/camera? Or am I giving cops too much credit? :pac:

No, I felt like turning it off right then. A sticker? Really? A f*cking sticker on a piece of hidden surveillance equipment??