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Which Came First ?

  • 05-12-2010 3:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭


    Which came first

    The chicken or the egg and why ?!!

    Chicken Eggs that is ....


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38238685/ns/technology_and_science-science/
    It is an age-old riddle that has perplexed generations: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    Now British scientists claim to have finally come up with the definitive answer: The chicken.

    The scientific and philosophical mystery was purportedly unraveled by researchers at Sheffield and Warwick universities, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.

    The scientists found that a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries is necessary for the formation of the egg, according to the paper Wednesday. The egg can therefore only exist if it has been created inside a chicken.

    The protein speeds up the development of the hard shell, which is essential in protecting the delicate yolk and fluids while the chick grows inside the egg, the report said.

    "It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first," said Dr. Colin Freeman, from Sheffield University's Department of Engineering Materials, according to the Mail.

    "The protein had been identified before and it was linked to egg formation, but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process," he said.

    Professor John Harding, from the same department, said the discovery could have other uses, according to the Daily Mail.

    "Understanding how chickens make egg shells is fascinating in itself but can also give clues towards designing new materials and processes," he said.

    "Nature has found innovative solutions that work for all kinds of problems in materials science and technology — we can learn a lot from them."

    /thread.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Eggs, as they existed before the species known as chickens evolved

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭AntiMatter


    There was eggs around, layed by dinosaurs, aeons before chickens even evolved.

    The egg came first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Asphyxia


    Eggs because dinosaurs used to lay them but if your talking about a chicken egg well then I would say a chicken came first because the article Biggins just posted makes sense :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    All i know this they come from tesco.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    But wait a minute... what laid the original egg? And what did that hatch from??? And who's it's Mommy? Qif, we have ourselves a conundrum! Bring me an egg.... and a chicken!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    I didn't know they could fap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    Let's race them. From the Spike to the bridge and back. We'd solve the "why did the chicken cross the road" thing at the same time, it'd be like killing two birds with the... ooh, three things!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Biggins wrote: »
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38238685/ns/technology_and_science-science/
    It is an age-old riddle that has perplexed generations: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    Now British scientists claim to have finally come up with the definitive answer: The chicken.

    The scientific and philosophical mystery was purportedly unraveled by researchers at Sheffield and Warwick universities, according to the Daily Mail newspaper.

    The scientists found that a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries is necessary for the formation of the egg, according to the paper Wednesday. The egg can therefore only exist if it has been created inside a chicken.

    The protein speeds up the development of the hard shell, which is essential in protecting the delicate yolk and fluids while the chick grows inside the egg, the report said.

    "It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first," said Dr. Colin Freeman, from Sheffield University's Department of Engineering Materials, according to the Mail.

    "The protein had been identified before and it was linked to egg formation, but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process," he said.

    Professor John Harding, from the same department, said the discovery could have other uses, according to the Daily Mail.

    "Understanding how chickens make egg shells is fascinating in itself but can also give clues towards designing new materials and processes," he said.

    "Nature has found innovative solutions that work for all kinds of problems in materials science and technology — we can learn a lot from them."

    /thread.
    Internet: taking the fun out of everything since the 1960s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Light came first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Internet: taking the fun out of everything since the 1960s.

    Internet wasn't around in the 1960s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Light came first.


    Would that be the fridge light when you're taking them out of said fridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Would that be the fridge light when you're taking them out of said fridge.

    A good point indeed, but I'll refrain from elaboration for fear of diverting the thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    The egg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Egg is for breakfast and chicken is for dinner.

    So therefore egg first...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭strokemyclover


    Egg.

    Period!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Anita Blow wrote: »
    Internet wasn't around in the 1960s

    Yes it was? Just not as it is today - But it was created in the 60's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    ardinn wrote: »
    Yes it was? Just not as it is today - But it was created in the 60's
    Bet you got that from wikipedia.

    ...stupid internet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭chicken fingers


    the one smoking the cigarette


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    ardinn wrote: »
    Yes it was? Just not as it is today - But it was created in the 60's

    It's the netting on the inside of your swimming shorts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Dunjohn wrote: »
    Bet you got that from wikipedia.

    ...stupid internet.

    which came first, wikipedia or real life knowledge and experience


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Dark_by_Dezign


    Surprised nobody has said ' Nether , safety comes first ' :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭barbarians


    Taken from John Lloyd and John Mitchinson's book "The Second book of General Ignorance".This is a book dedicated to correcting peoples' ignorance and is basically a myth busting book.These are the same guys who designed and run the T.V. show QI.
    Page 18
    Q. Which came first, the chicken or the egg ?

    "The egg.Final answer.As the geneticist J.B.S. Haldene (1892-1963) remarked, 'The most frequently asked question is: "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" The fact that this is still asked proves many people have never been taught the theory of evolution or that they don't believe it'.
    With that in mind, the answer becomes obvious.Birds evolved from reptiles, so the first bird must have come out of an egg - laid by a reptile.



    I could type out additional boring details about how eggs are formed but there's no need and I hope that clears up the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Dark_by_Dezign


    barbarians wrote: »
    With that in mind, the answer becomes obvious.Birds evolved from reptiles, so the first bird must have come out of an egg - laid by a reptile.


    Ah ha , but where did that first reptile come from ? fathom that out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭t0mm13b


    Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.....

    Why did the chewing gum cross the road? It was stuck to the chicken....

    Why did the cock cross the road?





    It was stuck to the chicken

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    t0mm13b wrote: »
    Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.....

    Why did the chewing gum cross the road? It was stuck to the chicken....

    Why did the cock cross the road?





    It was stuck to the chicken

    :P

    Why did the chicken cross the road?
    To escape persecution by the Russians!

    EDIT - Chechen, not chicken.... sorry!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    why did the man walking along fall down a hole?

    he saw someone he knew who said "simon! well well well!"











    and thought he was saying hello :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    barbarians wrote: »
    Taken from John Lloyd and John Mitchinson's book "The Second book of General Ignorance".This is a book dedicated to correcting peoples' ignorance and is basically a myth busting book.These are the same guys who designed and run the T.V. show QI.
    Page 18
    Q. Which came first, the chicken or the egg ?

    "The egg.Final answer.As the geneticist J.B.S. Haldene (1892-!9630 remarked, 'The most frequently asked question is: "Which cam first, the chicken or the egg?" The fact that this is still asked proves many people have never been taught the theory of evolution or that they don't believe it'.
    With that in mind, the answer becomes obvious.Birds evolved from reptiles, so the first bird must have come out of an egg - laid by a reptile.



    I could type out additional boring details about how eggs are formed but there's no need and I hope that clears up the situation.

    They have typos in a QI book ? How embarrassing !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭t0mm13b


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Why did the chicken cross the road?
    To escape persecution by the Russians!

    EDIT - Chechen, not chicken.... sorry!
    lulz!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    assuming we're talking about a chicken egg...

    evolution would tell us that we have things constantly evolving from one thing to another so the first chicken came from something that was not quite a chicken but *almost* and the first chicken would have hatched from an egg laid by the almost chicken mother.

    so they answer is that they both came at the same time, since the 1st chicken was technically inside the egg when it was laid, albeit in a foetal stage or development. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Which came first: human males or human females.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭barbarians


    Ah ha , but where did that first reptile come from ? fathom that out



    But say it was a reptile who laid an egg which became the first chicken who went onto lay more eggs.Then the egg came first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭bonerjams03


    Egg. The thing that laid the egg from which the first chicken hatched was not a chicken itself, in terms of evolution anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    They came simultaneously, as their very giving lovers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    IRcolm wrote: »
    Egg. The thing that laid the egg from which the first chicken hatched was not a chicken itself, in terms of evolution anyway.

    Therefore, the egg from which the first chicken hatched was not a chicken-egg. Therefore, the chicken came first!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    More importantly

    Which came first, the fried chicken or the fried egg?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Which came first

    The chicken or the egg and why ?!!

    Chicken Eggs that is ....

    It must have happened around Eastertime.

    So egg first according to Cadburys...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Which came first: human males or human females.

    Always females :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I f*ckin' hate chickens


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Senna wrote: »
    They came simultaneously, as their very giving lovers.

    I should know.

    I'm a chicken f*cker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    orourkeda wrote: »
    I should know.

    I'm a chicken f*cker

    Im not a chicken fucker Im a chicken fuckers son..

    Im only fucking chickens till the chicken fucker comes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 A.Blinkin


    Religious Answer: Something about ribs. Mmmmmh, ribs...
    Scientific Answer: People say the natural state is female, and therefore females came first. However, we don't start out looking female but nebulous. It is the stimulation of a possible Y chromosome present that determines whether the sex is male and if there is a lack of testosterone and the presence of an X chromosome female organs are formed. All sexually-reproducing organisms developed asexually initially, and then split due to the obvious evolutionary benefit of introducing genetic variety. However, this gene split happened in a much earlier species far before the evolution of man.
    Needless to say, you gotta love evolution because sex is just great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    IRcolm wrote: »
    Egg. The thing that laid the egg from which the first chicken hatched was not a chicken itself, in terms of evolution anyway.
    but how could an egg with a chicken in it not b a chicken egg?


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