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Zombie survival with kids in tow?

  • 02-12-2010 3:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭


    Ive pondered this long and hard, as the proud owner of one three year old human toddler i wonder how I could manage to survive with him.
    Where could i put him while i recon that would be safe and also easy for me to access incase of emergency?
    He is a great boy but also a toddler and doesn't understand the concept of quiet or danger.
    Any thoughts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Id strap him to my back, he could be an extra set pair of eyes (hopefully crying and shouting if i get snuck up on from behind).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭ladypip


    That would involve allot of strength and stamina which i don't have, i shall start running with him in a haversack on my back in preparation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    It depends on the tactitcal and strategic situtaion you find yourself

    I don't want to sound evil but in the land of the undead a child
    will be a serious liablity until you find yourself in a permanant defendable settlement.
    If the situation is realy bad.
    The child can be traded with others for supplies or kit
    in order to keep you going
    The land of the undead will be a cruel world where only
    the fittest and toughest will survive.
    You need to prepare yourself mentally for Z day.
    If you don't have a man find one now with a rifle and ammo
    I suggest shooting clubs or army barracks.(not discos)
    Looks are not important look for character and weapon calibre

    "The world is the same as it always was the weak get taken"
    The walking dead epsoide 4 mexican dude


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭SmileyPaul


    you're gonna want to stay local until the main panic of the situation dies down

    every ballances sooner or later, til then I would suggest staying in your house (hopefully the attic isn't converted) and leave him there this means he is away from the ground and out of reach of the z's the only thing is if something were to happen to you this would mean the end of your toddler, but we wont think about that, just the present, where you're alive and reconing :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    To the Person Who Suggested

    TRADING

    a 3 year old for supplies

    Seriously Dude WTF ???????


    Anyone willing to trade a toddler is not someone I'd be willing to trade with, and Seriously, A mother who trades her Child is not going to be accepted into many groups, a Person who Trades something FOR a Child is gonna be less welcome.


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The child can be traded with others for supplies or kit


    If this was a real life situation, and it actually happened, who would want a child? Let alone trade supplies for one? :confused:


    OP, if it were a reality, you'd be dead. It'd be difficult enough taking care of yourself without having to worry about someone else, too, unless you could get onto a rooftop or such and hope and pray for some military intervention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭ladypip


    t.
    If the situation is realy bad.
    The child can be traded with others for supplies or kit
    in order to keep you going

    As if , what kind of mother would i be if there was even the remotest possibility that would happen?

    Im quite confident i could survive with him but as i said id need a safe place for him, I think the attic suggestion was quite good and thinking on it more if the house was compromised i could gain access to the roof from next door ( we are detached but jumpable distance) rip off some roof tiles and get him out.

    Im gonna have to put a crowbar and rope on my neighbours roof on day one of infection aren't i?

    Anyone else with Kids have plans to keep them safe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    first of all; if anyone traded away/traded for a kid,regardless of the situation.That's a KOS for me.

    Realistically without a group you're boned, long term you'll need at least 1 more person to keep him safe, saying that I'd like to think someone out there would keep an eye on you both if the world falls apart, maybe that's naive of me.But I know if I could help a kid at all I would, while now they are a liability, you need to replenish the ranks and unlike zombies it takes more effort with people

    It depends on the kid also,if he's obedient enough to stay[relatively] still then you should be fine, a roof top or as cruel as it sounds;shove him up/into a chimney and he's very safe.Restraing the kid could be an option as well, it's a horrible thought to do that to a child,but if anything it's better than leaving him vulnerable to be ambushed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It would be worth keeping the kid safe. After the initial zombie disaster the world will be a very different place. Your child will have a big advantage even over yourself once it's reached the age of 10 as it would know no other world than a post apocalyptic one, it would be normal to the child while you still hold onto memories of this bountiful times.

    The big advantage then of course is that the child will be much more of an asset than a hindrance. When people say the children are our future it really is true. Humans adapt to an environment within a generation which gives us a huge advantage over every other living create that has to evolve to suit.

    The child will also give you the drive needed to survive. Others might give up where parents won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭ladypip


    first of all;
    Realistically without a group you're boned, long term you'll need at least 1 more person to keep him safe, saying that I'd like to think someone out there would keep an eye on you both if the world falls apart, maybe that's naive of me.

    Im not a single person i do have his dad with me so he'd be here to help protect him.

    I think if i was alone without the two of them id die sooner who wants to be totally alone in the long term?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭LadyHeart


    As the mother of a toddler myself, I've seriously thought about this too much!

    Its a scary thought and my first thought would be to get out of the city (Dublin) and head west...my desired location would be a small island off the west coast somewhere the only thing is the getting there. In an extreme case I'd want to sedate my little one and carry her in a baby bjorn type thing or the backpacks that have a seat for toddlers, shes loud and crazy and I really don't think she would stay still and quiet if we were in danger. I'd want to get to the coast and have a boat/yacht/anything to get to an island and once we were there I would set about building a castle/fort. Can never be too sure! That all depends on whether I survive or not but i'd have to for the sake of my little one!

    And trading your child?! I hope you don't have children yet!! Because once you do, everything is for them. As cliche as that sounds :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    at some stage, you're inevitably going to have to use him as a way of slowing down zombies from attacking you, by throwing him behind you for them to feed on, while you beat a hasty escape.

    Start accepting that now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭ladypip


    LadyHeart wrote: »
    As the mother of a toddler myself, I've seriously thought about this too much!

    Its a scary thought and my first thought would be to get out of the city (Dublin) and head west...my desired location would be a small island off the west coast somewhere the only thing is the getting there. In an extreme case I'd want to sedate my little one and carry her in a baby bjorn type thing or the backpacks that have a seat for toddlers, shes loud and crazy and I really don't think she would stay still and quiet if we were in danger.

    Lady heart i spend allot of time thinking on this, If it ever comes to an apocalypse all my friends say they'd head straight to my house they know ill sort it out.

    Id def get away after a couple of months my plan thus far is live out of my attic and scavange supplies and weapons from the houses in my area for as long as possible, work my way around them until thats exhausted, then working my way towards the local shopping centre having a few safe houses that are visited regularly in order to make sure they are still safe and viable if the shopping centre doesn't work out or we have to escape quickly, live in the shopping centre using the growing veg on the roof and living off the dried goods until the situation calms down enough to make a trip to Wicklow where i know of a rural location where i could set up a permanent residence. I wouldn't try leave the city too early or you'd be caught in the madness of everyone else trying to leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    i think you'd be best off doing an Anne Frank
    and hiding out until things quieten down,supplies could be an issue though!
    you'd want to stock pile your dried goods and tinned stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭.SONIC.


    start fattening him up now. slip chocolate into his porridge, give him extra portions of dinner and give him a big supper.

    then come Z-day when **** hits the fan and you have no food. you can eat the child!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    thats mad, I was only thinking about this this morning...

    I'd leave the sprog and the mrs inside, go out and do a few recce's around the area, get enough supplies to last a couple of weeks and lock up shop.

    I've no weapons of note so will get googling or use the trusty crowbar...

    (worked well enough for gordon freeman :D )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    just do what bill murray did and make yourself and your kid look like a zombie . you'l be grand then :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭ladypip


    There was a lesson to be learned from Bill Murray someone would mistake us as Zombies and behead us! ouch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    This is a tough one.

    I don't plan on having kids with me while I try and survive the new world. But there will be plenty of orphaned kids out there. No matter what happens, I'd like to think i would not leave a kid to fend for themselves if I found myself in their company.

    I can only assume I would come in contact with kids at around Z day + 6 weeks. I would have been held up in a strong hold till then before I would risk venturing out. But for arguments sake lets say i was baby sitting my 6 year old niece/nephew when it all turned to shit.

    My initial plan wouldn't change much, i would lock down my home and put survival plan in motion. There wouldn't be a food issue but lack of entertainment for the child may become an issue as days turn to weeks.

    We would only travel at night, a safe place would have to be found daily, and any savaging would have to be done alone when I was sure child was in a safe place.

    It would be a complete pain, but manageable to survive with a child, many children will survive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Many Children BETTER Survive, otherwise the whole exercise becomes rather redundant :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Many Children BETTER Survive, otherwise the whole exercise becomes rather redundant :(


    Why? We can just make more of them :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Well Yes, Obviously, but Infant Mortality Will be a major issue post Z day :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭MajorMax


    in a worst case scenario, you can always look on the toddler as emergency rations.


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