Fianna Fail seats in Kildare after the GE.

Disgruntled Dan

How many seats if any do you reckon FF will have in Kildare after the Election.
4:mad:
3:rolleyes:
2:D
1;)
0:cool:

Seconds Away

None I hope. But they might retain 1 or two seats.

Orion

As long as that worthless bint Brady loses her seat i'll be happy.

Disgruntled Dan

Rumours that she may not stand this time, pity would have put her last on my voting sheet.

greengurll

My vote will be going to Catherine Murphy. The party is over its time to get rid of political parties. We have lost our sovereignty perhaps its time to reclaim our Independents.

Seconds Away

Is Catherine Murphy contesting the forthcoming election?

Orion

I'd day she will. Labour are fielding two - Stagg and John McGinley. Is Durkan running again for FG? That'll be the 4 so with a bit of luck.

Redsoxfan

Seconds Away wrote: »

Is Catherine Murphy contesting the forthcoming election?

Campaign launch was supposed to be last night, postponed until next week

http://www.kildare.ie/community/CatherineMurphy/2010/12/campaign_launch_postponed.html

Zebra3

Macros42 wrote: »

As long as that worthless bint Brady loses her seat i'll be happy.

And then what for her? Back to teaching? Back to the estate agents? The poor thing....

FF's true colours summed up on the Main St of Maynooth with two estate agents belonging to FFers. :rolleyes:

FF will be wiped out in KN. :pac:

scheister

FG are running two convention is this week with Durkan Scully and lawlor looking to run
FF i belive are running two brady and i hear fitzpatricks son but that rumour
Lab are running two stagg and mcginley
Cathrine Murphy running as an independant
I hear they will be a sinn fein person running aswell
Have not heard if the greens will run someone

Sorry about the spelling

aodh_rua

The slate for Kildare South looks like this..

We'll be running Cllr Martin Heydon for FG.
FF will run Sean Power and Sean O Fearghail
Labour will run Jack Wall
Cllr Paddy Kennedy is set to run as an independent
The papers say SF will not run a candidate and I doubt the Greens will either

joconnor59

yes hopefully no seats will they get in kildare them FF..we have had a enough of them lot
and i hope the gobeens will wake up at long last in kildare and every other part of ireland and get rid of them gangsters for good ..arrogant smug gits with there fat salaries and mercs which the ordinary person is paying for..while the country is broke loads out of work and folk living in povery and on streets..they should be all got rid of and then we should sort out the gangsters of bankers..and the currupt system we run this banana of a so called country.. !!! what would the ordinary TD or MINSTER know about the real world and ireland we live in with there fat salaries and life style..and whats more they dont care either,,, so ireland wake up !!!!!

Seconds Away

The anti-FF/bank sentiment seems to be spilling onto the streets in North Kildare.
http://campbells.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1081

ronaneire

joconnor59 wrote: »

yes hopefully no seats will they get in kildare them FF..we have had a enough of them lot
and i hope the gobeens will wake up at long last in kildare and every other part of ireland and get rid of them gangsters for good ..arrogant smug gits with there fat salaries and mercs which the ordinary person is paying for..while the country is broke loads out of work and folk living in povery and on streets..they should be all got rid of and then we should sort out the gangsters of bankers..and the currupt system we run this banana of a so called country.. !!! what would the ordinary TD or MINSTER know about the real world and ireland we live in with there fat salaries and life style..and whats more they dont care either,,, so ireland wake up !!!!!

I just LOL'd so much when I read this...

Le_Dieux

joconnor59 wrote: »

yes hopefully no seats will they get in kildare them FF..we have had a enough of them lot
and i hope the gobeens will wake up at long last in kildare and every other part of ireland and get rid of them gangsters for good ..arrogant smug gits with there fat salaries and mercs which the ordinary person is paying for..while the country is broke loads out of work and folk living in povery and on streets..they should be all got rid of and then we should sort out the gangsters of bankers..and the currupt system we run this banana of a so called country.. !!! what would the ordinary TD or MINSTER know about the real world and ireland we live in with there fat salaries and life style..and whats more they dont care either,,, so ireland wake up !!!!!

Without wanting to risk the start of a political dispute, can I ask just WHO You want to run the country?

My take is this: I agree, FF are a spent force, but where does that leave us, the ordinary joe soap? FG...Enda Kenny?? Please, everytime he is interviewed on tv/radio, he seems to forget his sums/figures, the Labour? All Gilmore does is shoot down this and that by FF, but offers no real feasible alternatives.
Where does that leave us? SF...Not a viable proposition IMHO, and then the independents & the greens? For me the greens more or less did as much ( with their crazy ideas) to f**k the country up - one immediatly thinks of the incinerator debacle in Gormleys back yard.

I fear for this country's future as i don't see a person on the horizon who can grab the situation by the horns and do something POSITIVE for US, the citizens.

I totally do agree with your assessment on the bankers - lock the crooks up, AND while at it, take the ministers responsible at that time to task also - surely their hands are not that clean.

aodh_rua

Quick update - the FG ticket for Kildare North was selected last night; it's Bernard Durkan TD and Cllr. Tony Lawlor.

LeixlipRed

It's such a pity that no left-wing candidates have put themselves forward in North Kildare. John Kidd was rumoured to be interested but nothing ever came of that. I will not vote this general election probably. I will attend a Catherine Murphy rally and put to her a pledge to not support FF or FG. If she pubicly agrees she'll get my vote. Otherwise, no thanks.

Orion

LeixlipRed wrote: »

It's such a pity that no left-wing candidates have put themselves forward in North Kildare. John Kidd was rumoured to be interested but nothing ever came of that. I will not vote this general election probably. I will attend a Catherine Murphy rally and put to her a pledge to not support FF or FG. If she pubicly agrees she'll get my vote. Otherwise, no thanks.

If you don't vote then you lose all right to complain about the outcome.

And last I heard Labour are left wing amd they are fielding two candidates. But you seem to equate left wing with extremism.

LeixlipRed

Ok, first of all, I'm a socialist so I don't believe the current form of parliamentary democracy we have is democratic enough. Secondly, none of the candidates represent my radical left views. Thirdly labour are not a left wing party, they are a centre right party.

So you are saying I should vote for someone who does not represent me? And if I don't vote I cannot complain? Flesh those points out because I really can't stand the, "if you weren't there you can't talk about it attitude" that's so prevalent amongst Irish people.

ronaneire

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I'm a socialist so I don't believe the current form of parliamentary democracy we have is democratic enough. so prevalent amongst Irish people.

Most if not all socialist's don't either

Orion

Centre right ... You're funny.

I didn't say if you're not there don't talk about it. I said if you choose not to exercise your right to vote then you lose the right to complain about who represents you.

I'm not totally convinced in our representative form of democracy either but it's what we have so we have to work within it.

LeixlipRed

You didn't answer whether I should vote for someone who didn't represent me?

And Labour are most definitely a centre-right party. No left-wing party would agree, which they have already done, to make cuts to public services, wages, capital spending, etc,. When Labour are in power you will see, just like in 92 with Dick Spring, that they're just the same as FF/FG. Excpept they're worse because they sold out

Orion

Somebody is going to represent you whether you like it or not. In your case you get to vote for the least undesirable option if that's what you think.

LeixlipRed

No, I won't. But thanks for the advice. That's the problem with this democracy, no one really represents you when they have a 5 year mandate and a huge paycheck.

Though as I said, I'll put those questions to Catherine Murphy and if she says she won't support FF and FG on any single issue then I'll consider voting for her. But she's a parish pump practioneer. Nice lady but she's part of the system and has no real intentions of changing things. That I can see anyway.

If anyone knows anyone on the far left who'd like to run by the way, put them in touch with me

L1011

Disgruntled Dan wrote: »

Rumours that she may not stand this time, pity would have put her last on my voting sheet.

You're aware you don't have to put a preference down for everyone, right? Rather than put someone last, just don't put them down *at all*.

I can see one FFer staying on in Kildare North and none in South.

KildareNorth

Hi All,

A new independent candidate for Kildare North, Eric Doyle Higgins, has recently announced his intention to run in the next general election.

Details can be found at:

http://ericdoylehiggins.wordpress.com/

Regards,

Kildare North.

LeixlipRed

Some interesting stuff on that blog, particularly in relation to his anti-parish pump stance. But nothing about supporting FF or FG. Which I assume he'd do. So he won't be getting my vote.

KildareNorth

Hi LeixlipRed,

There are contact details available, if you would like clarification regarding FF / FG support or indeed any other items.

http://ericdoylehiggins.wordpress.com/contact/

Regards,

Kildare North.

Eric DoyleHiggins

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Some interesting stuff on that blog, particularly in relation to his anti-parish pump stance. But nothing about supporting FF or FG. Which I assume he'd do. So he won't be getting my vote.

Thank you Leixlip Red. Good to know that you gave the once-over to the blog. There’s plenty there for everybody to disagree with. Supporting FF or FG ? First, let’s remember we’re in the realm of miracles here and the chances of my getting my posterior into one of those brown leather seats are very low. But if by some miracle it should happen, then I have made my position very, very clear. My vote is for sale. I will sell my vote for economically sustainable jobs. We must create work for all who want it and the parties to which you refer will not do the necessary unless they are dragged kicking and screaming to do so. If I may say so, you sound like the sort of person who understands that better than most.

Eric DoyleHiggins

LeixlipRed wrote: »

No, I won't. But thanks for the advice. That's the problem with this democracy, no one really represents you when they have a 5 year mandate and a huge paycheck.

Though as I said, I'll put those questions to Catherine Murphy and if she says she won't support FF and FG on any single issue then I'll consider voting for her. But she's a parish pump practioneer. Nice lady but she's part of the system and has no real intentions of changing things. That I can see anyway.

If anyone knows anyone on the far left who'd like to run by the way, put them in touch with me

Hello Leixlip Red, I hope you won’t mind if I return the favour and comment on your observations.
You do not have to be a socialist to appreciate just how undemocratic our democracy has become. If you believe you have a fresh solution then, don’t hide your virtues. Stand !
If you do not vote then you bring down the poll and thereby bring down the quota. You make it easier for other candidates to get in. If on the other hand you are on the ballot paper, and I do not doubt that there are many who might be drawn to your view of the world then, if they vote for you, even if their vote dies with your elimination, you will have effected the result. Voting matters. So does non-voting. It lets the incumbents off the hook far too easily.

LeixlipRed

Well I'm not gonna vote for someone who doesn't strongly align with my politics. And there's no candidates close to that in North Kildare. I appreciate some of your points raised and I see you have a sense of humour too which always helps but would you become part of a working group in the Dail, if elected, that would form a coalition with FF or FG? If the answer to that is yes then I won't vote for you. But I wish you the best!

Orion

Why would you not hold clinics? How else can ordinary voters get to meet you and give their opinion or voice their concerns directly to you?

That said I appreciate where your heart is but after reading your site I couldn't vote for you. There's lots of poetry but little content. As you say yourself, it would be a miracle if you got elected.
I would also seriously consider the services of a proofreader. My eyes hurt reading some sections of it. Don't take this the wrong way but your site is your main advertisement - and spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes take from your message.

Finally, could you do us the honour of acknowledging our intelligence and remove the "Kildare North" posts and just post as yourself?

Eric DoyleHiggins

Macros42 wrote: »

Why would you not hold clinics? How else can ordinary voters get to meet you and give their opinion or voice their concerns directly to you?

That said I appreciate where your heart is but after reading your site I couldn't vote for you. There's lots of poetry but little content. As you say yourself, it would be a miracle if you got elected.
I would also seriously consider the services of a proofreader. My eyes hurt reading some sections of it. Don't take this the wrong way but your site is your main advertisement - and spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes take from your message.

Finally, could you do us the honour of acknowledging our intelligence and remove the "Kildare North" posts and just post as yourself?

Hello Macros42 and thank you for your comment,
Clinics: Firstly, we are citizens of the Republic and not the subjects of our recently installed political aristocracy. We should not have to go cap in hand to clinics and it is the proper business of TD’s to ensure that such should never again be seen as necessary.
Secondly: We are in discourse now, are we not ? And if any person needs to contact me or feels the need to give me a good ticking off, I am eminently contactable.
Poetry: I take that as a compliment, thank you. I can only call things as I see them and as I know they can work. If I am not your flavour, hey, that is no tragedy for either of us but maybe you need to have another go. Miracle ? Agreed.
No. My site is not an advertisement. It represents my views on a number of topics and my suggestions as to how we can, PDQ, begin to get to grips with our problems. I leave marketing to the professionals though by one measure I am a marketer.
Spelling: That’s Microsoft for you. Mine alone would probably be much worse without it.
Grammar and punctuation: I write as I speak. You shd c hw I txt.
Proofreader: I think that perhaps you meant to say “proof reader” or perhaps “proof-reader”. Either way, I will be very happy to consider your corrections.
Kildare North and so on: You are right but I admit to a certain hesitancy in pondering the execution of one of my many aides who entered thus. As you will note, I came right in myself once I knew you people were talking. Would never do it differently. Sorry. I would never do it differently. See my links. And. I have, courtesy of our Boards.ie friends, instituted a new string which, I think, we both would agree is the more useful way to do it. Come right in with your best brickbat.
Thank you again,

Eric.

Eric DoyleHiggins

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Well I'm not gonna vote for someone who doesn't strongly align with my politics. And there's no candidates close to that in North Kildare. I appreciate some of your points raised and I see you have a sense of humour too which always helps but would you become part of a working group in the Dail, if elected, that would form a coalition with FF or FG? If the answer to that is yes then I won't vote for you. But I wish you the best!

Hello again Leixlip Red,
Working group in coalition ? I think that is two fences at once. Working group, perhaps but only for speaking rights. Coalition, that’s a different matter and I think not. But. Will I do a deal that will get people back to work and give us the resources to recover from our current difficulties. You bet. If I can. Might it be with FF or FG ? Yes and with any other party or any other deputy or deputies who receive a mandate. Their mandate would be no less important than mine and that is the point.
But to be specific, right now the only party I can see coming close to a majority will be FG and they will not quite make it. They will need additional support and if I can trade that support for achievement of my expressed aims, then that will be proper discharge on my mandate.
Keep well,

Eric.

PS I hope this is not a double post. The thing seemed to go fritzy the first time I tried.
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91011

greengurll wrote: »

We have lost our sovereignty perhaps its time to reclaim our Independents.

lost our sovereignty??? - can you explain how??

and don't give the shinner line that its because we took a loan from the eu!!

Eric DoyleHiggins

91011 wrote: »

lost our sovereignty??? - can you explain how??

and don't give the shinner line that its because we took a loan from the eu!!

Hello 91011 and Greengurll,

Independents - well, about twelve of them, I think, would be good. Then, I would say that, wouldn’t I.

Sovereignty ? That is a different thing altogether. No, we did not lose it but we are giving it away. Every cent our Government borrows from abroad, puts us more acutely in thrall to the bond markets. And just because the esteemed parliamentarians in Sinn Féin happen to, kindof, sortof, agree with this proposition, does not render it invalid.

Explain it ? If I may. It goes something like this. Even if that incredibly gifted economic genius, our Minister for Finance, is correct with his most recent projections, we will have borrowed about a further €13b by the time we get to the end of 2011, assuming that we can manager various other problems, including having to repay a similar sum.

Indeed we could borrow, I think, pretty well any sum our Government had in mind, over a term of about fifteen years, provided we were prepared to commit to an interest rate of about 8.8%. But remember. Every Euro borrowed at such a rate would require us to repay a total in interest of about €1.30, REQUIRING us to either cut spending or raise taxes, just to make the repayment.

I happen to think we should both increase taxes, if only a little, and cut spending, not too little. But such measures should rebound to our benefit, not to the enrichment of the Bond Markets. Such mutual benefit, is sovereignty in action.

All the best,

Eric.