Bullbars = Safety ?

Barr

Hi All



A lad at where I work as bought a Crewcab 4X4..Anyway he recently added bullbars to the front and sidesteps as well.

When I was talking to him he was saying the bullbars add to the saftey in the event of a head on crash .

What ye reckon?

corktina

they may add to his safety but seriously affect the safety of others particularly pedestrians. I thought they had been outlawed.

Atlantic Dawn

Considering the makers spend millions on testing the crumple zones and airbags and design the vehicle for impacts with no Bullbars I would think Bullbars would make them worse in a road collision. Perhaps offroad they have a function where collisions would be different but onroad they have none.

Topper Harley

Maybe for the person driving that vehicle but anyone involved in a collision with it (pedestrian / cyclist / occupant of another car) will be at increased risk of serious injury. But then again, they do look good and the type of vehicle they usually go on don't belong on the types of roads where there are many pedestrians, cyclists or small cars.

Atlantic Dawn

corktina wrote: »

they may add to his safety but seriously affect the safety of others particularly pedestrians. I thought they had been outlawed.

Outlawed when supplied new from manufacturer, can be fitted afterwards at dealer selling the vehicle.

sean1141

most are made from hollow tubular bar.. not going to do much in a head on crash with another car/van/4x4

BrianD3

What make, model and year crewcab is it? Many of them have rubbish safety. eg the Isuzu D-max
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/isuzu_dmax_rodeo/316.aspx

biko

They're not significantly safer for him but can harm/kill a pedestrian.
Usually fitted by guys who want to appear macho but never goes off-road.

That said, I'd love one of these

Top Dog

Unless its specifically designed to work in conjunction with the existing sensors for airbags and other safety equipment, then no - its not going to help at all. And if its one of the big wrap-around ones then its possibly going to be more of a liability in the event of a head-on collision.

Redisle

I was under the impression that bull bars were illegal but the "A" bars were not? Like the ones on the front of the Sante-fe? .

Barr

BrianD3 wrote: »

What make, model and year crewcab is it? Many of them have rubbish safety. eg the Isuzu D-max
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/isuzu_dmax_rodeo/316.aspx

I think its a Mitsubishi of some kind - I could be wrong though.

Eric Cartman

BrianD3 wrote: »

What make, model and year crewcab is it? Many of them have rubbish safety. eg the Isuzu D-max
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/isuzu_dmax_rodeo/316.aspx

they really need to update that, that model is 3 years out now , the new one has a lot more safety features than that one did for drivers , still has 0 improvement for pedestrians, but then again a death is cheaper than injury for an insurance company, so it makes economical sense

bullbars fitted from factory are illegal ? can somebody site me a link to this

bullbars / A bars are a decent idea because in low speed crashes / animal collisions and scrapes they protect the paintwork and integrity of the bumper and grille, stainless steel just polishes scratches off it , Also bullbars are decent mounts for driving lights and additional fogs , by not drilling into your cars existing bumper its a cheap way of moving your extra gear if you buy similar vehicles

sidesteps are useful for small people getting in and out of some vehicles and have saved my wallet going round tight corners as they protrude more than the door handles and make a loud tinny sound when scraped

Barr

Redisle wrote: »

I was under the impression that bull bars were illegal but the "A" bars were not? Like the ones on the front of the Sante-fe? .

What is the difference between bullbars and A Bars ?

Eric Cartman

Barr wrote: »

What is the difference between bullbars and A Bars ?

an A bar is that shape and typically just comes up to protect the grille and centre front of the bumper

bull bars typically come up to the full height of the bonnet and protect the lights too

996tt

Eric Cartman wrote: »

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bullbars / A bars are a decent idea because in low speed crashes / animal collisions and scrapes they protect the paintwork and integrity of the bumper and grille, stainless steel just polishes scratches off it ,

At what cost:rolleyes:

keithclancy

Know a girl who calls those parking sensors.

robtri

Eric Cartman wrote: »

bullbars fitted from factory are illegal ? can somebody site me a link to this

As far as i am aware they are not illegal.. they just have to conform with EU Directive No 78/2009

covered here in irish law http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2007/B25481.pdf


IIRC the Eu directive does rule out a lot of metal bullbars, but if they meet the requirements they are legal