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House Cost

  • 01-12-2010 5:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭


    we are going building a 2000 square foot house. I have attached plans also. I am just wondering how much would it cost roughly speaking to build the house etc

    we are going for oil and rads with some sort of zoned system, stove with back boiler in dinning area, stove in sitting area, Solar panels. Double glazed windows to south of house and triple glazed on double doors in kitchen and back of house. we will be going for laminated timber floors in all rooms except porcelain tiles in kitchen dinning area and entrance lobby. Will be tiling all bathrooms completely. We will be going for manufactured slates in roof. not sure if this is enought info for someone to give me a rough price. Im trying to figure out how much the different things will cost etc roofer say the slates etc.

    Any answers would be greatly apprecitaed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭LoTwan


    I suggest you contact a reputable quantity surveyor who will give you a detailed breakdown of the costings of the build


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭uptowngirly


    LoTwan is right, a professional QS is the person to talk to about this....

    but, ball park figure is normally 1000 euro per square metre. I'm at the same stage as you and am also frantically doing sums!

    Windows, for example, can be really expensive or reasonable - it all depends on what kind of material you want to go for (alu-clad, wood, PVC), if the windows are standard or not etc etc.

    From being on this website, everyone talks about spending money on insulation as you get it back in spades and it's not worth compromising on - IMHO they're spot on.

    There's a grant for solar panel installation - any reputable supplier will talk you through it.

    We are going to build in Fingal and there's a tax of 143 euro per metre squared that has to be paid to the council, so don't forget about checking that - also ESB charge connection fees etc etc.

    Are you going to do direct labour or get a contractor in? You can definitely make bigger savings going direct labour - but that is only if (a) you've a fair idea what you're doing (b) you can be on site daily (c) you have the time and energy to commit to the build. If the answer is no, then there is no saving to be made as if building materials are not on site when the labourers need them, then you end up paying still with no work being able to be completed. Also - you take on the liability that everything is up to the standard you want (air tightness level of 3 or less etc) and you need site insurance as well. If you go for a reputable contractor, prices are less likely to go awry from what you have been quoted - especially if you detail correctly what you want (for example, if you don't specify a type of wood you want for doors/architraves/skirtings - you can be almost guaranteed that the price quoted by the builders will be for red deal to minimise costs.)

    There are other things to factor in - your house plans (they're lovely by the way!) indicate a single storey dwelling - this means that the foundations will cost more than a two storey as they're bigger! Also the cost of roofing will increase due to the larger area.

    You need to decide what is important to you - for me, I want alu-clad windows, an airtight structure with excellent insulation - I want a solid quartz worktop in the kitchen and I want natural slate tiles on the roof. There are other things I'll compromise on to bring our build in on budget. I'm happy to paint, wallpaper and tile myself etc!

    I don't know if this is any help to you - but best of luck with the build - I can't wait to start myself!

    There are lots of seriously knowledgeable people on this site that are unbelievably helpful about sharing that knowledge and experience - the OP is right though, for a proper breakdown of costs, a QS is the way forward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    Katz83 wrote: »
    we are going building a 2000 square foot house. I have attached plans also. I am just wondering how much would it cost roughly speaking to build the house etc

    we are going for oil and rads with some sort of zoned system, stove with back boiler in dinning area, stove in sitting area, Solar panels. Double glazed windows to south of house and triple glazed on double doors in kitchen and back of house. we will be going for laminated timber floors in all rooms except porcelain tiles in kitchen dinning area and entrance lobby. Will be tiling all bathrooms completely. We will be going for manufactured slates in roof. not sure if this is enought info for someone to give me a rough price. Im trying to figure out how much the different things will cost etc roofer say the slates etc.

    Any answers would be greatly apprecitaed


    had a quick look and reckon between 185- 210 at current prices and depending on specs. also what part of the country your in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Katz83


    building in kerry and not planning on going totally mad with spec cheap floors cheap kitchnn then maybe granite worktop and porcelain tiles in kitchen. Yes we would be over the moon if we got it for 180,000. It so hard to decide whether to got with builder or direct labour. If direct labour saved you 20,000 would it be worth it. Thanks for the rough estimate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    i,m in monagahan but if you want someone in Kerry to project manage there is a man in castleisland i would highly recommend has a real eye for detail or even just to have a look. otherwise if its down to a difference in 20 k most builders will drop if your keen to start straight after christmas. either wa get someone you know well thats in the game to go over everything as the cheapest builder usually is so by skipping out on small things that add up. make sure everything is like for like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    LoTwan is right, a professional QS is the person to talk to about this....

    but, ball park figure is normally 1000 euro per square metre. I'm at the same stage as you and am also frantically doing sums!

    Windows, for example, can be really expensive or reasonable - it all depends on what kind of material you want to go for (alu-clad, wood, PVC), if the windows are standard or not etc etc.

    From being on this website, everyone talks about spending money on insulation as you get it back in spades and it's not worth compromising on - IMHO they're spot on.

    There's a grant for solar panel installation - any reputable supplier will talk you through it.

    We are going to build in Fingal and there's a tax of 143 euro per metre squared that has to be paid to the council, so don't forget about checking that - also ESB charge connection fees etc etc.

    Are you going to do direct labour or get a contractor in? You can definitely make bigger savings going direct labour - but that is only if (a) you've a fair idea what you're doing (b) you can be on site daily (c) you have the time and energy to commit to the build. If the answer is no, then there is no saving to be made as if building materials are not on site when the labourers need them, then you end up paying still with no work being able to be completed. Also - you take on the liability that everything is up to the standard you want (air tightness level of 3 or less etc) and you need site insurance as well. If you go for a reputable contractor, prices are less likely to go awry from what you have been quoted - especially if you detail correctly what you want (for example, if you don't specify a type of wood you want for doors/architraves/skirtings - you can be almost guaranteed that the price quoted by the builders will be for red deal to minimise costs.)

    There are other things to factor in - your house plans (they're lovely by the way!) indicate a single storey dwelling - this means that the foundations will cost more than a two storey as they're bigger! Also the cost of roofing will increase due to the larger area.

    You need to decide what is important to you - for me, I want alu-clad windows, an airtight structure with excellent insulation - I want a solid quartz worktop in the kitchen and I want natural slate tiles on the roof. There are other things I'll compromise on to bring our build in on budget. I'm happy to paint, wallpaper and tile myself etc!

    I don't know if this is any help to you - but best of luck with the build - I can't wait to start myself!

    There are lots of seriously knowledgeable people on this site that are unbelievably helpful about sharing that knowledge and experience - the OP is right though, for a proper breakdown of costs, a QS is the way forward.


    I think the grants are for retro fit only.....new builds do not qualify.

    Based on my experience (just at plumbing stage) budget €100 per sq ft and you wont be too far off the mark.

    May be Worth getting a QS to price it for you....but thats an extra cost too!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭uptowngirly


    Cuculainn is dead right - the grant is now only available for retrofit, not for new builds. :o:o

    Bad uptowngirl:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    katz83 - have a look at cost here, just updated yesterday http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055830286&page=11

    In short, I think you could do your house for 180k.

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