Live register breakdown

fergiesfav

Taken from the Irish times

"The number of Irish nationals accounted for 82.4 per cent, or 350,220, of the number of persons on the register last month. There was a monthly decrease of 4,698 (-1.3%) in Irish nationals and an increase of 147 (+0.2%) in non-Irish nationals."

Not being racist, but surely the fact 17.5% of the live register being non national is too much! Thousands are staying in Ireland, despite having no work sponging off our welfare system. I know there are a lot of non nationals who have lived in and worked in Ireland for a long time, these people should be protected. Those who arrived in the boom, mainly from eastern Europe shouldn't be entitled to collect indefinite benefits, stop them after a certain time, possible half the time they've been here. I.e 1 year work, 6 months benefit, then fly them back home. How many people stay because our welfare is more lucrative then the industrial wages in some countries?

We can barely look after the Irish never mind this extra drain!!

sarumite

fergiesfav wrote: »

Taken from the Irish times

"The number of Irish nationals accounted for 82.4 per cent, or 350,220, of the number of persons on the register last month. There was a monthly decrease of 4,698 (-1.3%) in Irish nationals and an increase of 147 (+0.2%) in non-Irish nationals."

Not being racist, but surely the fact 17.5% of the live register being non national is too much! Thousands are staying in Ireland, despite having no work sponging off our welfare system. I know there are a lot of non nationals who have lived in and worked in Ireland for a long time, these people should be protected. Those who arrived in the boom, mainly from eastern Europe shouldn't be entitled to collect indefinite benefits, stop them after a certain time, possible half the time they've been here. I.e 1 year work, 6 months benefit, then fly them back home. How many people stay because our welfare is more lucrative then the industrial wages in some countries?

We can barely look after the Irish never mind this extra drain!!

I would worry more about the people who stayed on benefits during the boom and are still on benefits over those that worked during the boom and are now on benefits....regardless of their nationality.

I was under the impression that non-nationals could only claim benefits from stamps they have paid and were not entitled to anything after that. I.e. are only able to claim the dole for a year if they've paid a year's worth of stamps the previous year.

If it was me in their situation then I'm sure I'd rather stay here on a paid year-long holiday than return to my home country and work for less than I would receive on the dole here.

edit: Not to mention I'm sure many people have actually gone home and fly over to receive their benefits. The dole is certainly high enough to warrant such a trip.

sarumite

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I was under the impression that non-nationals could only claim benefits from stamps they have paid and were not entitled to anything after that. I.e. are only able to claim the dole for a year if they've paid a year's worth of stamps the previous year.

If it was me in their situation then I'm sure I'd rather stay here on a paid year-long holiday than return to my home country and work for less than I would receive on the dole here.

edit: Not to mention I'm sure many people have actually gone home and fly over to receive their benefits. The dole is certainly high enough to warrant such a trip.

You do realise that English, Germans, French etc are all considered non-nationals (such a stupid term since they all have a nationality).

sarumite

sarumite wrote: »

You do realise that English, Germans, French etc are all considered non-nationals (such a stupid term since they all have a nationality).

Of course, but we all know what the real elephant in the room is.

KindOfIrish

fergiesfav wrote: »

Taken from the Irish times

"The number of Irish nationals accounted for 82.4 per cent, or 350,220, of the number of persons on the register last month. There was a monthly decrease of 4,698 (-1.3%) in Irish nationals and an increase of 147 (+0.2%) in non-Irish nationals."

Not being racist, but surely the fact 17.5% of the live register being non national is too much! Thousands are staying in Ireland, despite having no work sponging off our welfare system. I know there are a lot of non nationals who have lived in and worked in Ireland for a long time, these people should be protected. Those who arrived in the boom, mainly from eastern Europe shouldn't be entitled to collect indefinite benefits, stop them after a certain time, possible half the time they've been here. I.e 1 year work, 6 months benefit, then fly them back home. How many people stay because our welfare is more lucrative then the industrial wages in some countries?

We can barely look after the Irish never mind this extra drain!!

Why do you care? It's German's money anyway.

sarumite

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Of course, but we all know what the real elephant in the room is.

did I get i right the first time.....

sarumite wrote: »

I would worry more about the people who stayed on benefits during the boom and are still on benefits over those that worked during the boom and are now on benefits....regardless of their nationality.