PowerBox with Quick Attach

adne

I am in the market for a 7 FT PowerBox. Was hoping to get one with a quick attach (if they exist)

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that supplies same.
Also what is considered the best make?

Muckit

adne wrote: »

I am in the market for a 7 FT PowerBox. Was hoping to get one with a quick attach (if they exist)

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that supplies same.
Also what is considered the best make?

I seen in the journal classifieds yesterday that Alexander Mills in the north have new Teagle quick attach A frame packages (one part for the tractor's 3 point linkage and 2 ends that fit the machine(s))

Then again, this setup might not be up to the abuse that operating a powerbox would bring:rolleyes:

Sorry, this may be of little help to you

towzer2010

Hi Adne

I'm looking at the 6 foot version of the Nugent one at the moment but I think they will do it in 7 foot as well. Seems to be a well made box

http://www.nugentengineering.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=272&Itemid=303

Muckit

Those nugent seem a well made box alright.

Just as a matter of interest, what sort of work would lads farming be doing with these powerboxes? I don't have one but I couldn't see myself having much use for one over an ordinary 'transport box'.

Now I know they're a totally different kettle of fish to the conventional 'transport box', but they've the hefty price tag to go with them too!:rolleyes: Is it more a case of them being a luxury item, rather than a necessity?

BeeDI

Muckit wrote: »

Those nugent seem a well made box alright.

Just as a matter of interest, what sort of work would lads farming be doing with these powerboxes? I don't have one but I couldn't see myself having much use for one over an ordinary 'transport box'.

Now I know they're a totally different kettle of fish to the conventional 'transport box', but they've the hefty price tag to go with them too!:rolleyes: Is it more a case of them being a luxury item, rather than a necessity?

I was of the same opinion as you 4 years ago when I purchased a standard 5 foot link box.
4 years later I really wish I had bought the heavy power box. Nugent type.
Reason, the link box I bought is bent and strained in two directions now.
When you have the box on the back of the tractor and something big and or awkward like boulders need shifing, common sense goes up the exhaust pipe. You use what you have, and you get your just desserts, by way of a mangled link box. Im kicking myself today. It's the old adage. Buy the best you can possible afford in terms of tractors, machinery and livestock.

If you can afford the difference between link box and power box, go for the power box. Besides, if you have a four wheel drive tractor even a handy one, you have no business with a standard link box sitting up on the lift.

Jack C

I've regularly seen 7ft power-boxes at Hennessys' machinery auction Portlaoise. They're made locally and very well made as far as I can see, but no quick hitch. I saw one sold about a year ago at €650 and another since that at €680. Not sure if they're still available there.

snowman707

we have a Malone 7 foot model

http://www.malone-engineering.com/

about 8 years old and will need a little maintaince in the next year or so but should be good for many years yet

Might be also worth enquiring from
Thomas Sinnott engineering, phone no: 0505 41121 near Borris in Ossory

bogman_bass

we have a 6 foot nugent.

it is a great machine, we have no front loader and it allows us to do jobs like mucking out straw sheds that would have been pure hardship with a plain transport box.

if you get one you'll wonder how you ever did without it

Muckit

Definitely if you could pick up a good s/h one for a little over the €600 mark, they'd be worth considering. As stated by previous posters, with the demiese of the building sector they should be 'ten a penny'. I personally just couldn't see the point of buying a hot new one.

I'ved moved any amount of boulders, cleaned out slurry from cobbled open yards and drew water to cattle with 3 45gallon barrels.... all with a standard mckenna linkbox.

Generally though nowadays it's load is more likely to be a few bundles of elec fence wire and stakes....... and I ain't gettin no 'powerbox' to carry them!!!:D:D

towzer2010

Muckit wrote: »

Those nugent seem a well made box alright.

Just as a matter of interest, what sort of work would lads farming be doing with these powerboxes? I don't have one but I couldn't see myself having much use for one over an ordinary 'transport box'.

Now I know they're a totally different kettle of fish to the conventional 'transport box', but they've the hefty price tag to go with them too!:rolleyes: Is it more a case of them being a luxury item, rather than a necessity?

Hi Muckit

The reason I'm looking at one is I am doing a good bit of draining and will be for the next few years. I am filling the drains with washed stone and the normal box is hard used to do this cause you have to tip it with a full load on and I have managed to collapse a few edges doing it. I know they are a bit on the dear side but it'll stop me having to clean out with the shovel again ... Anything for an easy life.

reilig

towzer2010 wrote: »

Hi Muckit

The reason I'm looking at one is I am doing a good bit of draining and will be for the next few years. I am filling the drains with washed stone and the normal box is hard used to do this cause you have to tip it with a full load on and I have managed to collapse a few edges doing it. I know they are a bit on the dear side but it'll stop me having to clean out with the shovel again ... Anything for an easy life.

It'll be brilliant for that. They are a great tool for handling stone or chips and they have a levelling bar on the bottom which is useful if you have a 4wd tractor.

I have a flemiing hydraulic box for the last 14 years. It was a 6ft heavy duty one and at the time cost 650 pounds. Its a great box and has taken a lot of abuse but is still as good as the day it was bought. Never any problem with the ram or pipes either. Cousin bought a heavy duty fleming box about 5 years ago and its made from much lighter steel than mine and it won't last as long as mine. I have some Nugent products, double bale handler, trailer, crush etc and I am a big fan of them. They make great stuff, use quality steel and weld and reinforce very well.

Hope it helps.

adne

cheers Guys for all the Posts. Some good tips there.

Out of interest do NC manufacture Power Boxes?

Milton09

adne wrote: »

I am in the market for a 7 FT PowerBox. Was hoping to get one with a quick attach (if they exist)

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that supplies same.
Also what is considered the best make?

Did extensive research into this myself about a year ago.
Conclusion was the best power box is the twin ram Woods.
Nugent comes in second and afaik is the only one available with quick attach.

The box section in the Woods is heavier than Nugent (Nugent have plated corners to compensate, not a fan of this myself)

Paint on Woods is superior, primer and gloss finish, it APPEARS that all other manufacturers don’t apply primer (I'm open to correction on that one though)

Overall finish is better on Woods too, quality of weld etc.
I wouldn't rate the Fleming, the mounting arrangement for the bottom
of the ram is not strong enough.

The prices in the NW 12 months ago are attached:
100 Euro difference between 2 suppliers for Nugent - pays to shop around.

reilig

To be honest, I wouldn't buy a box based on the paint quality. If you're using if for stone, the paint will be worn off it in a couple of days anyway. Quality of weld, thickness of steel and number of reinforcements are the most important. Does the double ram make that much difference??? My single ram has never refused to lift and its been very well tested.

Milton09 wrote: »

Did extensive research into this myself about a year ago.
Conclusion was the best power box is the twin ram Woods.
Nugent comes in second and afaik is the only one available with quick attach.

The box section in the Woods is heavier than Nugent (Nugent have plated corners to compensate, not a fan of this myself)

Paint on Woods is superior, primer and gloss finish, it APPEARS that all other manufacturers don’t apply primer (I'm open to correction on that one though)

Overall finish is better on Woods too, quality of weld etc.
I wouldn't rate the Fleming, the mounting arrangement for the bottom
of the ram is not strong enough.

The prices in the NW 12 months ago are attached:
100 Euro difference between 2 suppliers for Nugent - pays to shop around.

Milton09

reilig wrote: »

To be honest, I wouldn't buy a box based on the paint quality. If you're using if for stone, the paint will be worn off it in a couple of days anyway. Quality of weld, thickness of steel and number of reinforcements are the most important. Does the double ram make that much difference??? My single ram has never refused to lift and its been very well tested.

I agree, paint wouldnt be a major factor on a power box.
I forgot to mention that Woods also use continuous weld all round, this is important from a sealing point of view especially in the floor area.

Stops water and debris entering between seams.

I actually got a 7'6" box with twin ram. The single ram is of course good enough to lift anything but I went twin for more even distribution of force.

Muckit

Milton09 wrote: »

I agree, paint wouldnt be a major factor on a power box.
I forgot to mention that Woods also use continuous weld all round, this is important from a sealing point of view especially in the floor area.

Stops water and debris entering between seams.

I actually got a 7'6" box with twin ram. The single ram is of course good enough to lift anything but I went twin for more even distribution of force.

I'd imagine however that the twin ram box would be a tad slower to tip/rise also than single ram, esp if your tractor had slow hydraulic oil flow?

OnTheGame

As said above, we also had transport boxes for years, got a power box and wished we had it years boefore... use it for mucking out, tidying dung-heaps spreading and transporting stonechips around the yard and driveways. Used as a land leveller fro hard wintered paddocks before harrowing and seeding as it has a blade at the front(tractor side). also used to level sand arena. can be used.

Muckit

OnTheGame wrote: »

As said above, we also had transport boxes for years, got a power box and wished we had it years boefore... use it for mucking out, tidying dung-heaps spreading and transporting stonechips around the yard and driveways. Used as a land leveller fro hard wintered paddocks before harrowing and seeding as it has a blade at the front(tractor side). also used to level sand arena. can be used.

Would a push off backrake not be handier for mucking out? Or is it peat/sawdust you use?

Muckit

OnTheGame wrote: »

As said above, we also had transport boxes for years, got a power box and wished we had it years boefore... use it for mucking out, tidying dung-heaps

What type bedding do you use? Would a push off buckrake (or something with tines) not be handier for straw bedding?

OnTheGame

Buckit:
Yea it would be handier for straw your right. but its wood shaving bedding we use... goin back to straw as its cheaper and these times are about saving... but cant drive intop the stabl anyway.. jsur everse up to the door and fork it into it... serious time saving againt barrowing it

Milton09

Muckit wrote: »

I'd imagine however that the twin ram box would be a tad slower to tip/rise also than single ram, esp if your tractor had slow hydraulic oil flow?

Not necessarily, twin ram diameters are usually smaller so speed about same.

Tom C

i have a nugent power box 6'6' box it the best thing on the farm
i looked into it when i boght mine but like their trailer nugent definalty have the best and strongest box on the market if your looking for a 7ft you can get double or single ram . U may as well go double when going that money not that sold on quick attach thing not much hassel to put a pin in . Dont know what he is talking about woods paint job .

I bought mine in My Corry Agri for 670 euro with a vat number great value

snowdover

who sell woods powerboxs?

Farmer Pudsey

Buying a powerlink as opposed to an ordinary link box is a no brainer.I came accross a second hand Malone 7' two years ago. The ordinary link boxes are a pain trying to get a stone out with I often spend twent minutes messing with one . Unless its a monster 5 minutes with the powerbox would be very long. Also because you can turn it up it is great if collecting stone etc. If Gravel or stone is gone solid there is no fear driving into it. The steel in power boxes is always thicker that ordinary link boxes, They are not that more expensive. A 5' or 6' link box are they around 400 euro's. you will get a 6' power box for around 700 euro's now.

Anyone that ever got a powerlink box always wished they got one 5 years ago. Even cleaning sheds the fact that you can adjust the angle of the lip as you reverss backwards and when unloading you can turn it right down. Also if doing potholes or at the farm road you can tip gravel in little heaps rather than one big load or shoveling all the time. Even a fleming Power box is a way superior to ordinary link boxes

Steel Dog

snowdover wrote: »

who sell woods powerboxs?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055735560

Got these two from an older thread, dont know if they will be much help.

Martin McGinitty, Ballybay, Co. Monaghan

Mortimer Machinery, Trim, Co. Meath