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Removing damaged BB cups from MTB frame.

  • 29-11-2010 12:55am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    My younger brother snapped BB axle in a top end alloy MTB frame and needs to remove cups to replace it however cups are seised solid so much that the splines have become damaged making them impossible to remove with the correct tool. Is there any recommended tips or any bike shop recommended? Bike is currently stripped down.

    Cheers.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭billy.fish


    If its an external BB and you dont want it anymore - vicegrips. TURN THE CORRECT DIRECTION.

    If you aint confortable, bring it to your LBS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    billy.fish wrote: »
    If its an external BB and you dont want it anymore - vicegrips. TURN THE CORRECT DIRECTION.

    If you aint confortable, bring it to your LBS.
    Its internal BB and I am familiar with L & R H thread direction, local bike shop couldn't do much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭billy.fish


    Its internal BB and I am familiar with L & R H thread direction, local bike shop couldn't do much.

    Have you got a vice and bench??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Can you post a pic of the type of BB from the web?
    If it's one of these, it's going to be very difficult;
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/BB-UN73.jpg
    Not impossible though - cheaper units have a plastic cup on one side which can be broken.

    Have the splines on both sides been stripped?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    seamus wrote: »
    Can you post a pic of the type of BB from the web?
    If it's one of these, it's going to be very difficult;
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/BB-UN73.jpg
    Not impossible though - cheaper units have a plastic cup on one side which can be broken.

    Have the splines on both sides been stripped?
    Yes unfortunately that type and both cups are metal. I tried heating the base of frame with no joy. Looks like a bar might have to be welded on to the cups.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yes unfortunately that type and both cups are metal. I tried heating the base of frame with no joy. Looks like a bar might have to be welded on to the cups.
    If you have that kind of expertise available to you, then it may be the best course of action.

    When these BBs seize, they can be a pain in the ass, I've had to stand on a huge spanner and bounce up and down to release one before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    seamus wrote: »
    If you have that kind of expertise available to you, then it may be the best course of action.

    When these BBs seize, they can be a pain in the ass, I've had to stand on a huge spanner and bounce up and down to release one before.
    Frame is AL 7005, I would be afraid to swing off it too hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭paddyduc


    If you can run a bolt through your BB tool and into the axle it will stop it slipping on you. Turn the right side one clockwise and the left one anti-clockwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    paddyduc wrote: »
    If you can run a bolt through your BB tool and into the axle it will stop it slipping on you. Turn the right side one clockwise and the left one anti-clockwise.
    There is a broken solid axle in the BB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭paddyduc


    Your best option now is to weld the axle to the cup and put and old crank on it to turn it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    paddyduc wrote: »
    Your best option now is to weld the axle to the cup and put and old crank on it to turn it.

    Thinking of similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭paddyduc


    I've done this a few times, works a treat. As the weld cools it will shrink the cup leaving it easy to open.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    paddyduc wrote: »
    I've done this a few times, works a treat. As the weld cools it will shrink the cup leaving it easy to open.
    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    paddyduc wrote: »
    I've done this a few times, works a treat. As the weld cools it will shrink the cup leaving it easy to open.
    Got them out today, welded cups to axle and twisted frame in vice. Once I got the first one out the second came out very easy. Cheers again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭paddyduc


    you're welcome, glad it worked out for you.


    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chaindrivencycles/142564172462771


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