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Anti-Union and Government protest. 8/1/11 Dáil.

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  • 28-11-2010 2:06am
    #1
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭


    Will you be there?

    I propose a march from O'Connell street in Dublin to Leinster House on Saturday the 8th of January 2011.
    This will be a march against the Unions who are blocking the proposed bailout and the government who will have approved the bailout by the 8th.

    This will be a march to ask for complete honesty from all unions and political parties, and to ensure that the majority of people in this country are told the entire truth by all special interest groups.

    Are you with me?

    Will you be there? 82 votes

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    #2
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    No. (I say reluctantly)

    We'd be better off starting with the real basics.
    The real truth just from our own government! Everything else should follow!


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    No.
    Biggins wrote: »
    No.

    We'd be better off starting with the real basics.
    The real truth from our own government! Everything else should follow!
    Why not?

    Edit: The unions influence the government and rally for they politicians who will do their bidding.


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    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Why do crises that require marches always have to occur in the winter? I was frozen today.


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    No.
    stovelid wrote: »
    Why unprecedented crises that require marches always have to occur in the winter?
    Put a coat on.


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    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Terry wrote: »
    Why not?

    Edit: The unions influence the government and rally for they politicians who will do their bidding.
    You want a march against those not wanting the bailout and also a march against those who do want the bailout?

    Confusing!


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    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I don't care.
    Biggins wrote: »
    You want a march against those not wanting the bailout and also a march against those who do want the bailout?

    Confusing!

    You haven't been introduced to Terry I see...........

    Be confused first, work from there. Then read his posts. Profit.


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    123balltv
    Registered Users Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    No.
    stovelid wrote: »
    Why do crises that require marches always have to occur in the winter? I was frozen today.

    go to pennys they have all the latest winter gloves, scarfs, hats etc
    at very cheap prices its the only shop thats really busy nowadays


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    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    No.
    Terry wrote: »
    Will you be there?

    I propose a march from O'Connell street in Dublin to Leinster House on Saturday the 8th of January 2011.
    This will be a march against the Unions who are blocking the proposed bailout and the government who will have approved the bailout by the 8th.

    This will be a march to ask for complete honesty from all unions and political parties, and to ensure that the majority of people in this country are told the entire truth by all special interest groups.

    Are you with me?

    Well are you good at advertising? I mean I really doubt that a bunch of internet keyboard warriors are actually going to get off their behind and march.


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    Dozen Wicked Words
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    It's cold outside.
    I don't want a bailout, default on the banks debt then renegoiate bailout for sovereign debt if needed. Its not just unions who think this is a bad bailout, there has been countless economists on the TV that think 6.7% interest is takin the p*ss.

    Plus I think there is an episode of Murder, she wrote on that day I might not have seen.


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    Biggins
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    stovelid wrote: »
    ...I was frozen today.
    That makes two of us! :pac:
    Took the whole train ride just for me to defrost! :o


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    #12
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    No.
    Glory to the Trade Unions!
    Glory to Socialism!
    Glory to the Soviet Union!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kdwxFsthI

    Glory to Trolling!


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    Biggins
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    dooferoaks wrote: »
    ...Its not just unions who think this is a bad bailout, there has been countless economists on the TV that think 6.7% interest is takin the p*ss.

    6.7% - Bloody bloodsuckers!


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    starbelgrade
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    I don't care.
    I propose a protest march to protest against protest marches.


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    No.
    Biggins wrote: »
    You want a march against those not wanting the bailout and also a march against those who do want the bailout?

    Confusing!
    The bailout is going to happen.
    I'm suggesting a march against those who caused the collapse.

    I propose a march for every single person in Ireland who does not belong to a special interest group. For the students, for the Private sector and public sector workers who are threatened with unemployment.
    For everyone who who normally goes about their daily business, but is aware that the government and the unions are screwing everyone over.

    Cue the piss taking. I'll then quote this thread in two years time and tell you all to GTFO when you want to protest against the next fúck up.

    This is a protest march for the everyman which should happen before the next election.


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    Biggins
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    Terry wrote: »
    The bailout is going to happen.
    I'm suggesting a march against those who caused the collapse.

    I propose a march for every single person in Ireland who does not belong to a special interest group. For the students, for the Private sector and public sector workers who are threatened with unemployment.
    For everyone who who normally goes about their daily business, but is aware that the government and the unions are screwing everyone over.

    This is a protest march for the everyman which should happen before the next election.

    I can see what your getting at but sadly the bunch of traitors that are Fianna Fail and the Green Party will have signed the bailout deal by 4 on Sunday, when a phone call to the head of the EU is scheduled to confirm the deal.
    They are doing this on Sunday in hope that it will have an effect on the markets Monday.

    The too complacent Irish people should have got up off their arses well before now, lets be honest.

    Sadly now, its too little, too late. Our nation was been sold away for decades to come to EU masters, they will pull the strings and tell us when to jump and how fcukin' high! :mad:


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    Sharkey 10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Sharkey 10


    Terry is deluded.
    starbelgrade wrote: »
    I propose a protest march to protest against protest marches.

    So your protesting against yourself?


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    Sharkey 10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Sharkey 10


    Terry is deluded.
    Terry wrote: »
    The bailout is going to happen.
    I'm suggesting a march against those who caused the collapse.

    I propose a march for every single person in Ireland who does not belong to a special interest group. For the students, for the Private sector and public sector workers who are threatened with unemployment.
    For everyone who who normally goes about their daily business, but is aware that the government and the unions are screwing everyone over.

    Cue the piss taking. I'll then quote this thread in two years time and tell you all to GTFO when you want to protest against the next fúck up.

    This is a protest march for the everyman which should happen before the next election.
    So your protesting against a government with a few months left? Who by the time you protest will have done nearly all they can to damage this country. Whats the point in that?


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    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Biggins wrote: »
    That makes two of us! :pac:
    Took the whole train ride just for me to defrost! :o

    Two pints in town did the trick. :)


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    dayshah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    I don't care.
    Terry wrote: »
    I propose a march for every single person in Ireland who does not belong to a special interest group. For the students, for the Private sector and public sector workers who are threatened with unemployment.
    For everyone who who normally goes about their daily business, but is aware that the government and the unions are screwing everyone over.

    WTF? Everyone is part of a special group. We are all special :)

    Students, they have a students union.
    Private sector workers, they have MANDATE, SIPTU, UNITE etc
    Public sector- they have their unions, the leadership of which they vote for
    Pensioners - they have different interests to young people

    Everyone has a vested interest in something. That's why we have things like elections, social partnership, and a Dáil. To strike a balance between the different groups.

    There were non-union protests. Hardly anyone turned up. It takes a well oiled machine like the union movement to get 50k-100k people from across the country. You are calling for a march of those too apathetic to have already got involved in lobbying. I doubt you will be successful.


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    WildBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭WildBoots


    I don't care.
    Terry wrote: »
    Will you be there?

    I propose a march from O'Connell street in Dublin to Leinster House on Saturday the 8th of January 2011.
    This will be a march against the Unions who are blocking the proposed bailout and the government who will have approved the bailout by the 8th.

    This will be a march to ask for complete honesty from all unions and political parties, and to ensure that the majority of people in this country are told the entire truth by all special interest groups.

    Are you with me?

    You really have no idea whats happening do you?


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    No.
    WildBoots wrote: »
    You really have no idea whats happening do you?
    Not really, no.
    I have some really strange ideas when I get drunk.


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,043 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I'd go, just as I woudl have gone yesterday, but I am very happy with the current state of affairs, long may it continue!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #24
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,065 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    I'd go, just as I woudl have gone yesterday, but I am very happy with the current state of affairs, long may it continue!

    Pray tell, why would that be?


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,043 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Pray tell, why would that be?

    Sarcasm detector on, dear boy. My point being that that could be the point of view of anyone who doesn't agree with the protest yesterday.

    I shudder to think what you might have thought I meant...:)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,065 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Sarcasm detector on, dear boy. My point being that that could be the point of view of anyone who doesn't agree with the protest yesterday.

    I shudder to think what you might have thought I meant...:)

    My detector isn't powerful enough to tell when you're being sarcastic :o


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    #27
    marzic
    Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    I'm not in, or won't travel to, Dublin
    Terry wrote: »
    Not really, no.
    I have some really strange ideas when I get drunk.

    Does that constitute a recall on the protest? I couldn't make yesterday, some of my family were there, and gave JO'C a good boo!


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    #28
    Ulysses Gaze
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOCWUgwiWs


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    panda100
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    While there is no doubt corruption in the upper echelons of the trade union movement, I still would hardly consider them enemy number 1. Trade unions in this country are a lot more than the David Beggs, Jack O'Connors etc. Unions ARE the ordinary workers, so why on earth would you protest against them?

    I guess if you really believe the wages of a binman or the holiday arrangements of a nurse are to blame for the crisis then by all means protest against ordinary workers?Though when 1% of our population own 34% of our wealth, I think targeting low paid workers for money is a bit fruitless.


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    marzic
    Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    I'm not in, or won't travel to, Dublin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRg6X1sHBt4


    Well first thing you need is a proper song!


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    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    panda100 wrote: »
    While there is no doubt corruption in the upper echelons of the trade union movement, I still would hardly consider them enemy number 1. Trade unions in this country are a lot more than the David Beggs, Jack O'Connors etc. Unions ARE the ordinary workers, so why on earth would you protest against them?

    Just like how even though there is corruption and incompetence in the upper echelons of Fianna Fail there are alot of good honest people who are members of the grass roots, or there are alot of good Roman Catholic's despite a corrupt leadership, or alot of good bank staff despite a greedy, heartless top layer of executives, therefore there is no sense in complaining about the institutions? It doesn't work like that.

    If unions decide that they want that kind of leadership then they can't complain if those not represented by them decide to protest against them.


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