Not sure if this is genuine or not...

Max_Damage

I came across this video on the internet of the aftermath of a Cadillac Seville rear-ending a Peugeot 405:

Are old Caddy's built like tanks, or did it hit it at all I wonder?

Alanstrainor

Holy crap, that peugeot looks like it was made out of paper mache

chiefwiggum

no chance that caddy hit it...there would be at least some damage to the bumper at least 0r broken glass on the lights....if it did ,im buying mysell a caddy deville and driving it through the gates of dail eireann...i'd be unstoppable......

MarkoC

Yes, puugos are made from french frog skins and Caddyäs ARE like tanks.
More vids on youtupe about accidents where euro rubbish vs US cars

Real cars are made in US, rest are replicas

hairyman

Maybe so, but the reason the crash happened in the first place is because the Caddy probably could not stop on its undersized,low tech brakes.

Im sorry but American cars are pure rubbish, built like tanks maybe but still pure rubbish.

doleman2010

At least they had a peugot , imagine the damage if the caddy hit a nissan . kia . hyundai , or the fake chevys that are sold in Ireland.

L1011

The final position of the Cadillic vs. the Pug shows that its not the car that hit it. There's also damage far too high on the Pug. Complete fake.

unkel

These are both very old skool cars safety wise. Fact is the steel bumpered Caddy weighs nearly twice as much as the 405. Hit another car from behind at speed and there's a lot of kinetic energy in the front of the Caddy (with the cast iron 350 cubic inch V8 ) that has to go somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if this clip is genuine...

BrianD3

Not genuine. I have seen lots of real life crashes where aggressive vehicles like large vans and 4wds have rear ended cars and caused similar damage to that on the 405. The vehicles doing the rear ending always suffer more cosmetic damage than that cadillac has. If this video is genuine it would mean the Cadillac is more damage resistant and aggressive than a 4wd. Which is implausible.

That's not to say that the 405 isn't vulnerable when hit from the rear. If the Cadillac hit it at high speed I would much prefer to be in the Cadillac. But still, in any sort of serious collision the Cadillac will have a mangled grille, smashed headlights, bent bumper and crumpled bonnet at least.

Here is an example of the sort of damage that can occur in a rear end crash. Chrysler 300 hits Skoda Fabia
http://www.langlovagok.hu/kepek/4094_horvat-partvezer-rohant-chryslerjevel-egy-skodaba-az-m7-esen

unkel

BrianD3 wrote: »

Here is an example of the sort of damage that can occur in a rear end crash. Chrysler 300 hits Skoda Fabia

Modern cars with plastic bumpers and crumple zones though, unlike the cars in the OP. BTW both the Caddy and the 405 in the clip are built in Iran, perhaps not quite to the same standards as the original cars?

Max_Damage

unkel wrote: »

Modern cars with plastic bumpers and crumple zones though, unlike the cars in the OP. BTW both the Caddy and the 405 in the clip are built in Iran, perhaps not quite to the same standards as the original cars?

Cadillac's built in Iran? That's new to me!

stevenmu

The Pug looks like it maybe had two impacts, one straight into the back and another from the right hand side. Could the Caddy have hit it and spun it into a railing or something?

kazul

doleman2010 wrote: »

At least they had a peugot , imagine the damage if the caddy hit a nissan . kia . hyundai , or the fake chevys that are sold in Ireland.

I'll put my Nissan up against a 206 any day of the week, I'd even raise it to a 306.
50km/h (combined speed) head on, I bet the Nissan would drive away and the pug would be demolished. Any takers?

Cuddlesworth

You want your car to crumple in a crash. It stops the sudden deceleration which is the real killer.

Capt'n Midnight

In Iraq the dangerous part of being in an armoured car after an explosion is when it hits the ground again. It's not the fall it's the sudden stop.

Another example is bullets, it's not the piece of metal that kills you, it's the shockwave travelling out from the impact zone, liquefying your organs that is the real killer. Otherwise a pointy stick would be just as effective (if you could get close enough)

Those old built like a tank cars could easily survive an impact that you couldn't

nmacc

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

You want your car to crumple in a crash. It stops the sudden deceleration which is the real killer.

I can definitely testify to that.

A few years ago I came across an accident on a narrow twisty road. A dozy bint in a Nissan had come around a blind bend partly across the white line and hit a guy driving an old classic NSU Prinz which was well on the correct side of the road.

The Nissan folded up like a paper bag while the NSU, despite the engine being in the rear, was almost undamaged. The woman was uninjured, but weeping & wailing to the ambulance men. The driver of the NSU was unmarked & still sitting in the driver's seat.

With his neck broken.

Her car absorbed the energy of the impact & she was fine, if stupid and dangerous. His didn't and the energy was transferred to him, killing him instantly.

D_murph

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

You want your car to crumple in a crash. It stops the sudden deceleration which is the real killer.

Id much rather the other car to do the crumpling than my own though TBH :pac: .

Senna

Very true, was listening to a woman considering buying a newish clio, she was commenting to the salesman that her old MK3 Golf seemed to have much studier panels compared to the plastic feeling panels on the clio. The poor fella was pulling out his hair trying to explain it to her:D.

unkel

nmacc wrote: »

I can definitely testify to that.

A few years ago I came across an accident on a narrow twisty road. A dozy bint in a Nissan had come around a blind bend partly across the white line and hit a guy driving an old classic NSU Prinz which was well on the correct side of the road.

The Nissan folded up like a paper bag while the NSU, despite the engine being in the rear, was almost undamaged. The woman was uninjured, but weeping & wailing to the ambulance men. The driver of the NSU was unmarked & still sitting in the driver's seat.

With his neck broken.

Her car absorbed the energy of the impact & she was fine, if stupid and dangerous. His didn't and the energy was transferred to him, killing him instantly.

Chilling experience and as Cuddlesworth said, it's all down to what excessive deceleration does to a human body.

Owen

kazul wrote: »

I'll put my Nissan up against a 206 any day of the week, I'd even raise it to a 306.
50km/h (combined speed) head on, I bet the Nissan would drive away and the pug would be demolished. Any takers?

If you drive a Navara, then sure. I'll find an old Peugeot somewhere and go through the one star Navara like tinfoil

Cuddlesworth

PaintDoctor wrote: »

If you drive a Navara, then sure. I'll find an old Peugeot somewhere and go through the one star Navara like tinfoil

In fairness to the Navara you can't ignore pure momentum and a Navara would have it in Spades over the Peugeot. Plus the NCAP tests are becoming more and more geared towards Pedestrian safety which in my mind is leading to compromises in car to solid object/car impacts.