ATM cards skimming?

zom

I've got problem to insert my card to Rathimnes Ulster Bank ATM last saturday - it looks like there was some additional device connected to card insert - I took some picture:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2774/ulsterrathminesbefore.jpg

I used different ATM but then during week I realise ATM changed - there is how it looks now:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5861/ulsterrathminesafter.jpg

I wonder if there was a skimming device attached? Be careful during those pre-Xmas shopping days - thiefs don't sleep...

Biggins

Did you report it?

syklops

Did you ring the guards? Or did you decide you could inform more people by posting on the internet about it?

yosser hughes

zom wrote: »

I've got problem to insert my card to Rathimnes Ulster Bank ATM last saturday - it looks like there was some additional device connected to card insert - I took some picture:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2774/ulsterrathminesbefore.jpg

I used different ATM but then during week I realise ATM changed - there is how it looks now:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5861/ulsterrathminesafter.jpg

I wonder if there was a skimming device attached? Be careful during those pre-Xmas shopping days - thiefs don't sleep...

Did you go in to the bank and tell them? Did you report it to the Gardai? Not much help to people taking pictures if you didn't do either of those 2 things.

FoamyMushroom

Not much help at all if you just take pictures, you should of gone into the bank and told em the ATM looks dodgy.

Go back and report it straight away. Right now. The longer you leave it, the more chance some poor person is going to be scammed their earnings and this is something that would have a dramatic effect this close to Christmas.

Something interesting you should do is look around for anyone sitting nearby. If I'm correct, for those machines to work, they need to have a receiver within 100-150 foot?

bnt

Some new skimming devices save the stolen numbers as audio files which can be easily decoded: the device can sit there for weeks, unattended, just gathering the data until they're collected.

Apart from that, I agree with the previous posters: these things should be reported immediately. If you stop just one person from getting scammed, it's worth your time.

PS: after another look I just looked at the pics, the "after" pic looks like some bit that should be there is missing. You shouldn't see those holes exposed like that under normal conditions.

upandcumming

Very nice piece of workmanship on that skimmer...

OP - if you're not going to report it to the bank, post the bank name and branch location and one of us will do it.

Terry

Someone just took the sticker off.

Mark200

Terry wrote: »

Someone just took the sticker off.

Was thinking the same thing


Edit - Oh wait.. there's those two little roundy things aswell.

OutlawPete

I seen two eastern European looking guys rip one of those off a bank ATM on Suffolk St one day and followed them. Phone the cops and gave them the reg of a taxi they jumped into, never heard a thing back though.

Ghandee

Mmmmmm.
Why take before and after pictures of a friggin atm in the first place?

Is this thread a carefully disguised way of asking us if we would be wise enough to recognize a dodgy atm or not?

Yeah, we would.

So don't do it!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

*Did you call the guards, did you call the bank, did you bla bla bla... rabble rabble, better than thou nonsense... rabble rabble...*

Fair play OP. Nice find. I would never know what the device looked like. Thanks for taking the time to take the pictures, upload the images and educate people to what these devices look like.

iMac Hunt

I don't believe it, this is the ATM where my card was skimmed last Saturday!!

I got a text message from Permanent TSB on Tuesday night to give them a ring about my Visa debit card. When I rang I was put through to someone in the fraud and theft department who asked if I was in the US at the moment, I said I wasn't and was told that there were several attempts made to withdraw money from my account at a Bank of America ATM at Miner St, Des Plaines, Illinois!! I said I was nowhere near there and was told that my card had been compromised and would be cancelled immediately; luckily enough they hadn't manage to withdraw any money.

Anyways I tried to think where I had used my card recently and remember using it at the Ulster bank ATM in Rathmines. Now usually I'm pretty vigilant when I'm using ATMs and noticed a rectangular piece of plastic to the left of the keypad. It was the same color and type of plastic as the rest of the ATM but I noticed it was loose and I actually tried to pull it off. I was in a hurry at the time to meet someone in town so went ahead and used it anyway and was able to get money out but when the card came out it was really slow like there was something else jammed in the slot.

Shortly after I had my card cancelled I just happened to be back in Rathmines, checked the ATM and the suspicious piece of plastic was now gone! I thought I might have used one of the other ATMs on the street but none of them had anything next to the keypad. I’m guessing that this had a camera housed inside but that they didn’t manage to capture all of the numbers of my PIN. I rang the fraud dept again to tell them my story and they said that it sounded like there was a skimming device on the ATM. After reading the OPs post and pictures I’ll give a call into the Garda station in Rathmines and let them know and also into the Ulster bank, I was really lucky but I’d hate to think about all the unlucky people who would’ve used on a busy Saturday night :-(

zom

first of all - why I can't add a pic to my post? I can't see an icon - there are links, emails, even youtube icon but not an "add pic"?

then back to the ATM - to be honest I was not sure if there is really skimming device. It looked like real part of ATM, not a scrappy piece of plastic stocked to ATM. If it wouldn't be Saturday I probably would ask inside bank, but in that case I was just concern to make false alarm with Garda etc...

And further to this - there is another ATM just on the Rathmines crossroad (Bank Of Ireland?) which permanently refuses giving a money. It happened me once, but friend of mine got that situation few times, although money never left his account so there was no problem.

alwaysadub

zom wrote: »

first of all - why I can't add a pic to my post? I can't see an icon - there are links, emails, even youtube icon but not an "add pic"?

then back to the ATM - to be honest I was not sure if there is really skimming device. It looked like real part of ATM, not a scrappy piece of plastic stocked to ATM. If it wouldn't be Saturday I probably would ask inside bank, but in that case I was just concern to make false alarm with Garda etc...

And further to this - there is another ATM just on the Rathmines crossroad (Bank Of Ireland?) which permanently refuses giving a money. It happened me once, but friend of mine got that situation few times, although money never left his account so there was no problem.

You can't embed pictures in After Hours-just have to link it instead

Captain_Generic

This (circled in red)

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2774/ulsterrathminesbefore.jpg

looks like a strip reader embedded in a plastic insert. There would have to be a camera over the numerical pad as well though...

x in the city

first things first

can ye lads just name that atm its dodgey as F|uk.

anyone with an account in that branch can just report it, or if its a BOI, call banking 365.

DOC09UNAM

The picture is labelled Rathmines before.

I'm going to guess it's in Rathmines somewhere.

x in the city

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

The picture is labelled Rathmines before.

I'm going to guess it's in Rathmines somewhere.

the exact bank should be reported, why is the op not naming it

i think this $hit could be pretty widespread now running up to christmas





*refrains from mentioning the africans

partyatmygaff

x in the city wrote: »

*refrains from mentioning the africans

Hmm... A 14 day ban or a month long ban? Difficult question.

smk89

The ATM pictured is an outdoor type and there are only 2 in Rathmines: one beside the ALDI and one beside the UB branch. So its obviously one of these. Found here

Whats even better is that these are the 2 that I regularly use

FruitLover

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

The picture is labelled Rathmines before.

I'm going to guess it's in Rathmines somewhere.

Aha, that's what they want you to think...

amacachi

Don't they need the PIN as well though? I can't believe how many people don't, I've seen people's PINs from the bus ffs.

Augmerson

It's always Des Moines.

Saila

zom wrote: »

I've got problem to insert my card to Rathimnes Ulster Bank ATM last saturday - it looks like there was some additional device connected to card insert - I took some picture:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2774/ulsterrathminesbefore.jpg

I used different ATM but then during week I realise ATM changed - there is how it looks now:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5861/ulsterrathminesafter.jpg

I wonder if there was a skimming device attached? Be careful during those pre-Xmas shopping days - thiefs don't sleep...

iMac Hunt wrote: »

I don't believe it, this is the ATM where my card was skimmed last Saturday!!

I got a text message from Permanent TSB on Tuesday night to give them a ring about my Visa debit card. When I rang I was put through to someone in the fraud and theft department who asked if I was in the US at the moment, I said I wasn't and was told that there were several attempts made to withdraw money from my account at a Bank of America ATM at Miner St, Des Plaines, Illinois!! I said I was nowhere near there and was told that my card had been compromised and would be cancelled immediately; luckily enough they hadn't manage to withdraw any money.

Anyways I tried to think where I had used my card recently and remember using it at the Ulster bank ATM in Rathmines. Now usually I'm pretty vigilant when I'm using ATMs and noticed a rectangular piece of plastic to the left of the keypad. It was the same color and type of plastic as the rest of the ATM but I noticed it was loose and I actually tried to pull it off. I was in a hurry at the time to meet someone in town so went ahead and used it anyway and was able to get money out but when the card came out it was really slow like there was something else jammed in the slot.

Shortly after I had my card cancelled I just happened to be back in Rathmines, checked the ATM and the suspicious piece of plastic was now gone! I thought I might have used one of the other ATMs on the street but none of them had anything next to the keypad. I’m guessing that this had a camera housed inside but that they didn’t manage to capture all of the numbers of my PIN. I rang the fraud dept again to tell them my story and they said that it sounded like there was a skimming device on the ATM. After reading the OPs post and pictures I’ll give a call into the Garda station in Rathmines and let them know and also into the Ulster bank, I was really lucky but I’d hate to think about all the unlucky people who would’ve used on a busy Saturday night :-(

x in the city wrote: »

the exact bank should be reported, why is the op not naming it

attention to detail fail............
unless there is more than 1 bank of the same company in Rathmines...or anywhere. Banks dont have multiple branches of the same company in one town.

x in the city

Saila wrote: »

attention to detail fail............
unless there is more than 1 bank of the same company in Rathmines...or anywhere. Banks dont have multiple branches of the same company in one town.

my bad, obviously 99% of the posters here live within 1/2 mile of rathmines and know all the financial institutions down to a tee

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Hmm... A 14 day ban or a month long ban? Difficult question.

It's racist to state fact??? Odd...

jimmycrackcorm

Konnor Lively Photocopier wrote: »

It's racist to state fact??? Odd...

Yea when we all know you should be picking out east Europeans

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Yea when we all know you should be picking out east Europeans

Oh? Why is that?

dermo88

Well, in no particular order, if you want high level fraud, Goldman Sachs are Americans of Jewish extraction. Fingers Fingleton is Irish, so is Sean Fitzpatrick, Charles Haughey, Bertie Ahern......thats one bunch dealt with. If you want computer based crime, Asians can be very smart. If you want impatient amateurs, then its the Nigerians. Eastern Europeans, many are of Russian extraction, and their mathematical abilities would be extremely good.

Can't single out any one race. I do know that I have always actively disliked and distrusted Nigerians, and despite all attempts to overcome that prejudice, it has proven to be justified time, and time again.

If that warrants a ban, then I know why I do not intend living in Ireland again. Politically correct nonsense of the highest order. Put it this way Bertie Ahern, Brian Cowen, Charles Haughey on one side, versus General Sani Abacha, General Ibrahim Babangida, Olaguson Obasanjo on the other.

I'd take the Irish side anytime compared to the last three jungle monkeys whose existence justified recolonisation every day they lived and mismanaged.

Mod.
User banned

DOC09UNAM

dermo88 wrote: »

Well, in no particular order, if you want high level fraud, Goldman Sachs are Americans of Jewish extraction. Fingers Fingleton is Irish, so is Sean Fitzpatrick, Charles Haughey, Bertie Ahern......thats one bunch dealt with. If you want computer based crime, Asians can be very smart. If you want impatient amateurs, then its the Nigerians. Eastern Europeans, many are of Russian extraction, and their mathematical abilities would be extremely good.

Can't single out any one race. I do know that I have always actively disliked and distrusted Nigerians, and despite all attempts to overcome that prejudice, it has proven to be justified time, and time again.

If that warrants a ban, then I know why I do not intend living in Ireland again. Politically correct nonsense of the highest order. Put it this way Bertie Ahern, Brian Cowen, Charles Haughey on one side, versus General Sani Abacha, General Ibrahim Babangida, Olaguson Obasanjo on the other.

I'd take the Irish side anytime compared to the last three jungle monkeys whose existence justified recolonisation every day they lived and mismanaged.

Well if that's not blatantly racist, I don't know what is.

iMac Hunt

x in the city wrote: »

the exact bank should be reported, why is the op not naming it

It's the Ulster ATM outside the Ulster Bank branch on Lower Rathmines Road at the corner of the swan centre next to the book shop. I think there's another Ulster bank ATM further up the road near the Travel Lodge but it wasn't that one.

I still can't get over the fact that it happened on such a busy street and that in the space of a few days that someone in Illinois was trying to withdraw money with my card! Fair play to the fraud department for spotting it, I hope the criminals weren't successful in getting anyone else's money. Will call into the Ulster bank in question tomorrow and will mention it to the Guards as well, at least if they're aware that this is going on it might draw attention to anything acting suspicious around an ATM.

amacachi wrote: »

Don't they need the PIN as well though? I can't believe how many people don't, I've seen people's PINs from the bus ffs.

You can't see it in the OPs pictures but there was a rectangular piece of plastic to the left of the keypad, I'm guessing this is where a camera was hidden.

zom

It's useless to discuss which branch/ATM it was - I'm sure "they" will not attack Rathmines for some time. JUST REMEMBER to be careful, especially now, pre-Xmas time. While people think about presents and stuff they often forget about safety...

PS - if anyone think about contacting media feel free to use my pics - at least it's Ulster Bank ATM pictured..

falan

It obviously happens quite a bit. A friend of mine in England was scammed out of £600 via this method just 2 weeks ago according to his facebook status. Apparently he went to withdraw money and got the 'insufficient funds' thing so he ordered a statement. The 'transaction' never showed up on his statement but according to another status update,he was getting it back....(dunno whether he did or not).

dermo88

Now where was I before I was rudely interrupted.

Oh yes......ATM card skimming. Anyway, just always block the keypad with your paw, in case there is a foreign national nearby scanning details.

GodlessInfidel

a couple of years ago my card was skimmed at the old boi atm at the bottom of grafton street.

seven hundred euro they got from me, i eventually got the money back. initially i went to pearse street station to report the theft, they told me i would have to report it to raheny as that was the closests station to where my local boi branch was. went there only to be told i would have to go to the closest garda station in relation to where i was living at the time which was the bridewell :mad:

the moral of the story always shield with your hand when typing in your atm number with the other.

as i say eventually after a few weeks i was refunded, was in fact a good way of saving, u could say it was money in the bank

Artur.PL

it's another one skimming device

marymcaleese

I'm afraid not much has been done since the last post - my card has been skimmed in one of these two ATM's, but I'm not sure which one - either the one next to the bookshop on Lower Rathmines Rd- Ulster Bank ATM, or the one next to Travelodge, as I have used only these two this month, which appeared to be enough to lose all my money. My bank (National Irish Bank) said they were surprised and it's something very uncommon blah blah blah. I couldnt get any info from them how to recognize the ATM's with the skimming devices. As four of my friends were also robbed I guess the safest way to take out the money is using ATM's in the banks.

phill106

Would think the president, of all people, would be safe!

Henno30

Found out today that my card had been skimmed. Bank didn't think that they had my PIN fortunately. How far back should I check on my statements if they're telling me this now?

Katkatim

Henno30 wrote: »

Found out today that my card had been skimmed. Bank didn't think that they had my PIN fortunately. How far back should I check on my statements if they're telling me this now?

Your bank should be able to tell you when and where the card was skimmed. You should try to find out from them. I'd assume they checked your account and had they seen a suspecious transaction, they would have asked you about it. In any case, to be on the safe side, ask them if they can tell you when it was skimmed. Did they cancel your card? If not, ask them to cancel it and issue a new one. Don't count on the fraudsters not having your PIN.

raveni

There's a good thread about this in the banking forum, it has more pictures showing examples of skimming/camera devices at ATMs: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054865036

It's a simple thing but people should always note the small details and characteristics of ATMs they use regularly so they can recognise more easily if the machine might have been tampered with.