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AIPAC = Treason

  • 25-11-2010 7:58am
    #1
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭


    I've only seen this in the Jewish press so I guess some of you wouldn't be aware.

    Before anyone asks spying is a conspiracy.

    Steve Rosen AIPACS former number 2 is filing a lawsuit against his former employers for wrongful dismissal. Rosen was fired after being indicted for espionage - a case that never went to trial, something I would expect to be due to AIPAC's paid for Congress.

    Anyway Rosen's claim is based on the fact that espionage and trafficking in confidential information is all part of the day job - as is apparently sitting around AIPAC offices watching porn.

    He says he has the documents to prove it and will hand them over to the FBI unless he is compensated with 20 million dollars.


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  • #2
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Well, firstly, where's the treason? Secondly, if I ran an organisation and someone was being indicted for espionage, I'd fire them as it reflects terribly on the organisation regardless if the guy is guilty or not.

    It's possible that he's lying and trying to stir up media attention so that the AIPAC will just give him a load of money (in the thousands, no millions) just to shut up and feck off. He wouldn't be the first.

    I guess all we can do is wait to see how it pans out.


  • #3
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    humanji wrote: »
    Well, firstly, where's the treason?

    a crime (espionage) that undermines the offender's (AIPAC's) government (US)
    disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
    treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
    wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

    AIPAC are supposedly a US Lobby group. AIPAC are not supposed to be illegally obtaining classified US intelligence and illegally passing it on.

    This is quite clearly treason.
    humanji wrote: »
    Secondly, if I ran an organisation and someone was being indicted for espionage, I'd fire them as it reflects terribly on the organisation regardless if the guy is guilty or not. .

    Him losing his job was part of the trade-off. Take Weismann and Rosen and leave us alone for what is commonplace. This is the basis of Rosen's claim.
    humanji wrote: »
    It's possible that he's lying and trying to stir up media attention so that the AIPAC will just give him a load of money (in the thousands, no millions) just to shut up and feck off. He wouldn't be the first.
    It is millions, 20 million in fact. Highly doubtful he is lying under the circumstances I'd say. He claims to have 180 documents proving that espionage is commonplace within AIPAC.
    humanji wrote: »
    I guess all we can do is wait to see how it pans out.
    I'd suspect to see it all end in a settlement and never gets to trial as it could possibly bring AIPAC down.


  • #4
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    a crime (espionage) that undermines the offender's (AIPAC's) government (US)
    disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
    treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
    wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

    AIPAC are supposedly a US Lobby group. AIPAC are not supposed to be illegally obtaining classified US intelligence and illegally passing it on.

    This is quite clearly treason.
    Not in the States. It has to be an act of war or helping enemies of the state.
    It is millions, 20 million in fact. Highly doubtful he is lying under the circumstances I'd say. He claims to have 180 documents proving that espionage is commonplace within AIPAC.
    I meant thathe won't get what he is demanding. In most cases where someone demands money and are paid off they only get a fraction of what they demand. If they pay him $20m, it's as good as saying they're guilty. If they pay him a few thousand, it can be spun as telling him to just piss off.
    I'd suspect to see it all end in a settlement and never gets to trial as it could possibly bring AIPAC down.
    It's almost a certainty that it'll be a settlement. It's the whole "Give me money, or else" thing that makes me feel that he's just bullsh*tting and trying to get back and the people who fired him.


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