N64 and Modern TVs

OwaynOTT

Right. I took out the old n64 last to see if it still worked. Good news everyone, it did. Well after trial and error with leads connecting it to the tele, I have a snes as well and had a load of leads in the box. The problem I had was trying to play Goldeneye on it. It workd but the picture was dire, very hard to make anything out.
Now I don't remember it being that bad, so is it the tele? The tele is a 32inch hd ready.
Would the n64 work better on an older screen?

Also where can you buy stuff for it in Ireland?

Thanks.

landsleaving

What kind of lead are you using to connect to the tv? If it's rf - the one that goes in where the aerial does, then that's why it looks awful. You need an rgb scart cable for the best picture. That's the advice I've gotten here and it's served me well thus far

OwaynOTT

it was the scart with the three colour cables plugged into it. I took it off the gamecube. Would that affect it?

MontgomeryClift

That's composite video, grainy and colourless. Put that on top of the N64's natural blur, send it through the crude scaler of a flat panel TV, and you get what you got there.

It will look better on a CRT, but the composite video will still be grainy and colourless; and saddest of all, the console will still be an N64. Ha!

It won't do RGB either. I don't think the PAL N64 even works with S-Video. But I guess we were expecting too much for only £300.

http://www.gamesx.com/rgbadd/rgbn64.htm

OwaynOTT

sorry now but what is a CRT?

RedXIV

OwaynOTT wrote: »

sorry now but what is a CRT?

Cathode Ray Tube type TV

Basically, not a flat screen, one of the big fat ones

MontgomeryClift

The easiest route to decent N64 picture would be an American console with an N64 S-Video cable, connected to SCART with an S-Video-to-SCART adaptor, available locally. But then you'd have to re-buy American versions of your games.

Retr0gamer

Yeah unfortunately a PAL N64 is doing to look terrible however you connect it. The best quality you can get is with the set up you are using and unfortunately the yellow red and white connectors will always give terrible picture quality. Even on a CRT it's still going to look ugly as hell. It's really stupid that nintendo dropped RGB support since this would give a massive increase in picture quality. The only way to get good picture quality as said is to get an american N64 which supports s-video (practically as good as RGB) and can also be modded to RGB. However you'd have to rebuy all those old games asamerican versions.

OwaynOTT

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Yeah unfortunately a PAL N64 is doing to look terrible however you connect it. The best quality you can get is with the set up you are using and unfortunately the yellow red and white connectors will always give terrible picture quality. Even on a CRT it's still going to look ugly as hell. It's really stupid that nintendo dropped RGB support since this would give a massive increase in picture quality. The only way to get good picture quality as said is to get an american N64 which supports s-video (practically as good as RGB) and can also be modded to RGB. However you'd have to rebuy all those old games asamerican versions.

Does it matter that the cable came from a gamecube and not the n64? Their the same cables are they not?

Fifa 2009 looked better than Bond did and Liverpool still had some good players back then as well.

I only have four games still left for it, Bond, fifa, buck bumble and yoshi story dont judge my younger brother use to play it also. Can't find my mario kart, f zero and the others, so is there anywhere in this country to buy them ?
Was on adverts so another place. Thanks again guys.

Retr0gamer

Doesn't matter, it's the same cable.

As for Goldeneye not looking so good, that's called the rose tinted glasses effect. The graphics in that game have not aged well and it's very blurry. The terrible framerate doesn't help either.

If you can't find games on adverts the next place to try is the shop in town on Fade Street, has a good selection at decent prices.

Edit: Forgot Beetle Adventure Racing.

OwaynOTT

Back in the day i was a great game. Getting your brother anger in multiplayer when you blow each other up with the grenade launcher.

Dang I wanted beetle adventure so much as well.

Thanks

SirLemonhead

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Doesn't matter, it's the same cable.

Is the Gamecube cable not somewhat different? I know you're not meant to use a Snes made RGB cable with a gamecube and vice versa as it dulls the colours or something?

Retr0gamer

SirLemonhead wrote: »

Is the Gamecube cable not somewhat different? I know you're not meant to use a Snes made RGB cable with a gamecube and vice versa as it dulls the colours or something?

Nope, the Nintendo consoles have used the same cables since the NES, only changing with the Wii.

As for the RGB thing that was a scam by nintendo so that only their RGB cables would work with the SNES. A GC cable on the snes would result in the picture fading to black in 10 seconds but you could get by this by taking the capacitors out of the RGB cable and it would work fine on both consoles. A SNES RGB cable will work fine on a GC.

The problem is that AV composite is just a terrible video standard that gives disgraceful image quality no matter what console it is used on and unfortunately it's the highest quality video output method you can use with a PAL N64. There's no way to make it look better. An RGB cable will give you sound but no picture.

landsleaving

How did I forget that RGB doesn't work with the N64 despite asking the same question a few weeks ago. Shame on me.

SirLemonhead

Retr0gamer wrote: »

As for the RGB thing that was a scam by nintendo so that only their RGB cables would work with the SNES.

Is there an official Snes RGB cable?

Retr0gamer

Yeah there is. However you are better off getting a good third party RGB cable with gold plated connectors and modding it if you get the fading into black screen thing since I've found official nintendo cables a bit poor.