grazing sheep

leoch

is it a good idea to let your land for a few months over the winter for grazing sheep i know it is good for cleaning up the ground but what about fluke will the sheep spread more fluke on the ground or should i make sure the farmer have the sheep dosed before hand ?

blue5000

I wouldn't let them in at all, I intend to have cattle at grass as early as possible next Spring so its a big no no for me.

brownswiss

What is 10 acres of reseeded ground worth until Jan 31st and how many either sheep or 5okg lambs would it carry until then. Reseeded this year and a good heavy cover of grass.

Thanks

flatout11

when do you intend to graze it in spring?
is there much on it

razor8

the going rate is 5-7 cents per sheep per day. i graze my sheep on a few farms over the winter and get good feedback. they call me wondering when i will have them ready to graze! the whole secret is not to overstock, which avoids poaching as well as reducing thieving especially if land is not well fenced

they say that the silage sward is very high quality with no waste as the sheep have cleaned up all the waste grass over the winter

in regard to fluke, if they sheep look healthy, then they wont have fluke. if you see sheep coming in that are all thin its a sure sign they have fluke or something else

brownswiss

flatout11 wrote: »

when do you intend to graze it in spring?
is there much on it

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Thanks...... the guy had a very high figure in mind and yet he wants them off if they are poaching...

i tried to get him to deal on a daily basis to protect his land but he wants a lump sum offer..

brownswiss

How many ewes or lambs should good ground hold ?

brownswiss

the guys wants to limit sheep numbers to about 40 ewes.. He was expecting over €500..

@7cents per day it works out at €257......

dont think i could even ring him with that offer but if thats all its worth im aswell forget about it..

with the price of feed so high i thought the daily rate for grass would reflect one's savings

supersean1999

brownswiss wrote: »

the guys wants to limit sheep numbers to about 40 ewes.. He was expecting over €500..

@7cents per day it works out at €257......

dont think i could even ring him with that offer but if thats all its worth im aswell forget about it..

with the price of feed so high i thought the daily rate for grass would reflect one's savings

well why dont you put less on it and let it last longer, offer him less and see what happens, grass does not be long disappearing over the winter i would not over stock,

flatout11

brownswiss wrote: »

the guys wants to limit sheep numbers to about 40 ewes.. He was expecting over €500..

@7cents per day it works out at €257......

dont think i could even ring him with that offer but if thats all its worth im aswell forget about it..

with the price of feed so high i thought the daily rate for grass would reflect one's savings

add on the cost of travelling to and from it aswell seems too much at €8 per ewe if it was bringing you up to lambing it would be a different story

razor8

flatout11 wrote: »

add on the cost of travelling to and from it aswell seems too much at €8 per ewe if it was bringing you up to lambing it would be a different story

its very hard to make a lump sum offer, if a freeze came like last year, it would disappear in a shot, if you put too many on it, they will just tramp it into the ground. offer him €300 take it or leave it, i doubt he would get anyone else to give him so much

flatout11

razor8 wrote: »

its very hard to make a lump sum offer, if a freeze came like last year, it would disappear in a shot, if you put too many on it, they will just tramp it into the ground. offer him €300 take it or leave it, i doubt he would get anyone else to give him so much

your right

rancher

flatout11 wrote: »

your right

British farming forum reckons approx 70 pence/ week. Farmers journal says 50cents to 1 euro/week, thats the going rate,but some sheep farmers get it free but must remove them when they start poaching.

brownswiss

rancher wrote: »

British farming forum reckons approx 70 pence/ week. Farmers journal says 50cents to 1 euro/week, thats the going rate,but some sheep farmers get it free but must remove them when they start poaching.

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Thanks for the advice... offered him 8cents with him being in charge of deciding numbers and when he wanted them off.....

he went for a lump sum offer from someone else( more than mine ) even though it is newly seeded and he does not want it poached.........

bullnuts

How many sheep would it take to graze up @90 acres? From November to say March? And would I be left without any grass come time to let cattle out? I think they would be great for ragwort but would they spread parasites? Would parasites even survive winter ? Not very well up on the whole thing

White Clover

bullnuts wrote: »

How many sheep would it take to graze up @90 acres? From November to say March? And would I be left without any grass come time to let cattle out? I think they would be great for ragwort but would they spread parasites? Would parasites even survive winter ? Not very well up on the whole thing

It would be hard to say how many without knowing how much grass was on it, land type etc.
Could you divide it into a few sections? That way the ground grazed in november would be well rested and growing by March.
Don't think they would spread parasites, they would do well on ground that hasn't had sheep on for a good while.

bullnuts

White Clover wrote: »

It would be hard to say how many without knowing how much grass was on it, land type etc.
Could you divide it into a few sections? That way the ground grazed in november would be well rested and growing by March.
Don't think they would spread parasites, they would do well on ground that hasn't had sheep on for a good while.

Never had sheep here before ! All in paddocks but one strand electric they will walk under this I presume! And wouldn't dream of fencing for sheep! Cost !!

White Clover

bullnuts wrote: »

Never had sheep here before ! All in paddocks but one strand electric they will walk under this I presume! And wouldn't dream of fencing for sheep! Cost !!

A bucket of screw in insulators and a few rolls of polywire or tape. Enough to do a couple of paddocks at a time. Job's a good 'un!!

bullnuts

White Clover wrote: »

A bucket of screw in insulators and a few rolls of polywire or tape. Enough to do a couple of paddocks at a time. Job's a good 'un!!

Was thinking just let them wander the full range

eorna

If you dont paddock them in some sort of way they will leave your place like a snooker table come march and regrowth will b very slow..
As other poster said easy to do with bit of polywire and leave that once is eaten and keep going at that..

I says

Old thread I’ve fifteen acres gone mad with grass was thinking sheep to graze it over the winter. Tis fenced with 1 strand electric and boundary with barbed wire and it is easily divided into paddocks.
Is the handy thing to do let it out to be cleaned up over the winter say 1st November to 1st February?
Or am I mad to think that.