Have Ireland seen this?

Ave Sodalis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAu_nUqkfc

Just seen this. This is how the world sees us. I thing they are a bit misguided with regards to the way the government are handling the situation however, they are right in one thing. We are a nation that has never taken this kind of thing facedown. Why are we now?

Thoughts on this video??

ninty9er

Lisbon was a British imperialist plan...I stopped listening after that.

Whoever these people are have clearly had an impact on Jim Corr, I'd hope everyone else would have more sense.

Bob_Latchford

Facist Lisbon treaty?? oh dear

KINGVictor

sup_dude wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAu_nUqkfc

Just seen this. This is how the world sees us. I thing they are a bit misguided with regards to the way the government are handling the situation however, they are right in one thing. We are a nation that has never taken this kind of thing facedown. Why are we now?

Thoughts on this video??

Well suited in the conspiracy theory forum tbh...

I never heard the guy mention any culpability by the Irish government in allowing the property bubble that brought the Irish economy down.

I honestly think that video is an insult to any self -respecting Irish person, it assumes that Ireland is just a pawn in a convoluted attempt by the so called British empire and Rothschild movement to control the world...utter rubbish.

Ireland as a nation represented by its politicians made errors by allowing a bubble to be misrepresented as an economic miracle...its time to take it up the chin, take the bail-out, make the necessary structural adjustments and work vigourously towards recovery....

Listening to the likes of that guy will only delay that from happening..

Ave Sodalis

KINGVictor wrote: »

Well suited in the conspiracy theory forum tbh...

I never heard the guy mention any culpability by the Irish government in allowing the property bubble that brought the Irish economy down.

I honestly think that video is an insult to any self -respecting Irish person, it assumes that Ireland is just a pawn in a convoluted attempt by the so called British empire and Rothschild movement to control the world...utter rubbish.

Ireland as a nation represented by its politicians made errors by allowing a bubble to be misrepresented as an economic miracle...its time to take it up the chin, take the bail-out, make the necessary structural adjustments and work vigourously towards recovery....

Listening to the likes of that guy will only delay that from happening..

Conspiracy? Despite the fact that it is an American channel?


Just to be clear here, you think we should take on the bond holders debts and pay them for them, while they walk?

zuroph

sup_dude wrote: »

Conspiracy? Despite the fact that it is an American channel?

http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv

hardly mainstream now is it?!

zuroph

also, lol at the only comments on youtube being from someone who's username is "away in the head". If they even know it...

FoxT

LPACTV = Larouche PAC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

Creamy Goodness

i stopped listening when i heard "eye-her-land".

sarumite

I managed to watch it for maybe 30 seconds...eventually deciding to stop watching it and thinking that just because youtube allows you to post dumb videos doesn't mean that you should

mickey1979

161 views prob half of them are us

KINGVictor

sup_dude wrote: »

Conspiracy? Despite the fact that it is an American channel?


Just to be clear here, you think we should take on the bond holders debts and pay them for them, while they walk?

That is the nature of the system we embraced my dear friend!...we were very happy getting funds from German, British banks to fund our insatiable need to sustain the "idealistic celtic tiger" ...but in reality most of the money was coming from bond holders that assumed they were making a killing. All of a sudden, they realised it was all an unsustainable ponzi scheme, in most cases they ruthlessly punish the culprits, which is what they are doing to Ireland.

I totally agree that it is not just Ireland that is to blame but we fell for the gimmicks of capitalism ( it can be a rewarding system but when you mess up, it can be brutal).

I suspect that Ireland is not going to be the last country that will seek a bail-out as the bond holders are trying everything possible to get every penny back at the expense of a very immature EU monetary system...

Lesson 101...dont bite more than you can chew...

thebman

I liked the Luas moving in fast motion

Fast motion makes everything better.

This sounds like a crazy person talking genuine 100% crazy!

Nobody forces us to do anything! It has all been our choice.

Slozer

KINGVictor wrote: »

Well suited in the conspiracy theory forum tbh...

I honestly think that video is an insult to any self -respecting Irish person, it assumes that Ireland is just a pawn in a convoluted attempt by the so called British empire and Rothschild movement to control the world...utter rubbish.

Rothschild advises Irish Government on banking crisis!http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0629/1224273558461.html

t0mm13b

Interesting, after being left baffled by a "Inter-Alpha Group" which is the first I've heard ... I googled it and came across this about IAG being the brain-child of Rothschild for dealing with currencies. The funny thing I've noticed is there's a word floating around PIIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain)... coincidentally enough, if you read the banks in that group, piigs is in there....and came across another linky that has my head spinning.... with this main question "Did the IMF/EU/ECB pile on the pressure to Ireland to stop or to prevent the potential collapse of the Euro currency?"....

Something does not sound quite right about what happened in the last 10 days... the denials of IMF bailout then newsflash on Sunday night to say that the IMF are indeed bailing out...is all this a ploy to actually save the euro-zone really...???? So many questions about the entire behaviour of the government, the walk-outs by Gormley, the dissolution of the Dáil later on in which someone will have to deal with the mess.... by the way... where was Mary Harney when Cowen addressed the speech from the Leinster house on Monday evening, also where was Enda Kenny when Dr. John Reilly was doing the PR stunt.... just wtf is going on... no wonder there's a lot of mis-trust, mis-information... even Lenihan reported that "you can work it out for yourself" on the size of the bailout when clearly we haven't been told what it is... man... something reeks here....

Blowfish

KINGVictor wrote: »

Well suited in the conspiracy theory forum tbh...

Most definitely. According to the same guys, 9/11 was carried out by an alliance consisting of Great Britain and Saudi Arabia.

'nuf said.

theghost

Whatever is happening it's enough to make the Greens and FF want to stay in power until the Budget is passed. I thought Cowen would have jumped at the chance today to go to the Aras so the next government (most likely FG/Lab) would have to bring in their own budget. Instead, Cowen and Gormley want to get the budget and the four year plan accepted before they go.

hatrickpatrick

I agree with a lot of what he is saying (yes that's right, I totally agree about Lisbon, the second referendum was a disgrace and made a total farce of democracy, no means NO for ****'s sake), but he's got one very major point wrong:

These are no longer private banks, since our government saw fit, in a moment (or should I say, lifetime) of utter insanity, to nationalize one (the worst one, ironically) and near-nationalize the other two. Therefore, our banks' debts are OUR debts as a nation. Of course it shouldn't be that way but what exactly are we supposed to do about it now that they've made the idiotic decision? Try to sell the banks back to shareholders?

Show me one eejit in this country who would honestly take the risk of buying shares in a re-floated Anglo, if the government attempted to get rid of it. I doubt anyone in this country is that insane. Therefore, we're not stuck with these banks and we have no choice but to bail them out. If the banks go down, they take our public finances with them.

As I said, it SHOULDN'T be this way, but arguing about that now is like closing a stable door twelve days after the horse has escaped. We should have rioted when the nationalization was first announced, but we didn't. Yas, I am going to place blame on us, the people, as well as the government: We apathetically and docilely sat on our collective arses whilst these deals were being done. It is far too late to do anything about that now.

We should have collectively striked and protested until the government was wrenched from office all the way back at the end of 2008. We did not, and we now suffer the consequences.

Scofflaw

Larouche is CT stuff, I'm afraid. A full-blown conspiracy theory take on world politics.

moderately,
Scofflaw