Kickboxing

montane

Is kickboxing, by itself, more a sport than a viable self-defence method. Are kicks easy to catch, etc if you were in a street-fight.

unknown13

Full Contact kickboxing is a viable self defense IMO because it teaches you to punch properly and kick hard. In a street fight, it will be more heat of the moment stuff IE punches.

Semi Contact kickboxing is not a viable self defense method IMO. It is more of a sport and a system of kickboxing to maximise scores in competition IMO.

Lukker-

I trained in full contact Kickboxing for 4 years and it is definitely a valuable tool if you are ever in a street fight. Teaches you to stay disciplined with your guard, box effectively and land kicks. You might think that using a kick in a street fight would be ineffective but they can be used in a way that would make it difficult to grab. We also did the odd self defense seminar as part of it where you'd learn how to escape from various grapples etc.

Deisekickboxing

your best defence would to not get into a streetfight in the first place!

siochain

Deisekickboxing wrote: »

your best defence would to not get into a streetfight in the first place!

+1
best sport for self-defence = 100m sprint.

yomchi

siochain wrote: »

+1
best sport for self-defence = 100m sprint.

Unfortunately not all situations are as text book as people would like to believe, in 'real life' things are different.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1316282_video_former_boxer_kills_man_with_killer_punch

http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoaf8Dz-.html

No art big or small would have saved that guy, no amount of running either.

Full contact kickboxing will give you a strong foundation in striking, not getting piss arsed drunk is up to you.

evo2000

montane wrote: »

Is kickboxing, by itself, more a sport than a viable self-defence method. Are kicks easy to catch, etc if you were in a street-fight.

Its "viable" alright depending on your level of skill, and whether or not your blocked at the time or not (Most people cant fight worth a **** when blocked)

Throwing kicks in a street fight isnt a great idea your not likely to be wanderin around in shorts at the time of these scraps, and they can be caught.

leg kicks are always a good way to persaude someone to **** off tho!

Bjj or judo would be more suited for street fighting though. since most street fights end up on the ground or huggin matches

But the best defense is to avoid them retarded situations in the first place tho

Stillweak

Saw a post on Facebook today.
"Krav has saved my bacon manys a time"
WTF is this guy doing that he needs his bacon saved many a time.
That's not an attack on krav. A lot of martial arts and self defence clubs will inadvertently bring you to trouble.
My opinion is training stuff for the sole purpose of self defence is going to raise your chances of being stupid enough to try to use it.
Train something for fun and lose the self defence ideas. oscar pistoius was obsessed with self defence.

evo2000

Stillweak wrote: »

Saw a post on Facebook today.
"Krav has saved my bacon manys a time"
WTF is this guy doing that he needs his bacon saved many a time.
That's not an attack on krav. A lot of martial arts and self defence clubs will inadvertently bring you to trouble.
My opinion is training stuff for the sole purpose of self defence is going to raise your chances of being stupid enough to try to use it.
Train something for fun and lose the self defence ideas. oscar pistoius was obsessed with self defence.

Theres an awful lot of these Mcdojos poppin up that teach "krav" to be fair anyone that goes in with the sole purpose of wanting to train for self defense usually dont last, You have to like the sport some bit and self defense just comes as a added bonus to training i think anyway!

Stillweak

I really didn't mean to start any krav bashing. Im in no doubt that doing krav classes consistently will make you better at fighting than when you started. I just genuinely saw that post.
To answer the OP, I think that doing full contact kickboxing would be great for self defence but it's not the best thing. Anything where you put yourself in a situation where you are punching and kicking someone while trying to avoid getting punched and kicked would be good.
The golden rule for me would be
1) Does the class/club do Katas?
If so, it's not going to be good for self defence. It's only good for meeting people you can swap manga comics and Chinese martial arts DVDs with.
2) Does the class/club only do light contact or no contact sparring?
If so, it's not going to be good for self defence and your teacher is a liar unless he is upfront with you about this. All that you have learned will go out the window when somebody who actually wants to hurt you attacks. All those non contact staged scenarios you did will mean nothing when you get hit.

RoboRat

Full contact kickboxing is very functional and you don't need to be throwing spinning kicks to be effective. A good leg kick from someone who knows how to throw it will end most fights and its not hard to do. Also training in full contact will ensure you are used to punches and kicks and you won't end up like a rabbit in the headlights.

Points kickboxing is not effective and is a sport.

Bjj or judo would be more suited for street fighting though. since most street fights end up on the ground or huggin matches

Judo, certainly. BJJ, only to sweep and get up. I wouldn't try a sub on the ground in a street fight, some filthy scumbag would give you a kick in the face.

Personally Muay Thai, MMA or Boxing is your most effective street fighting martial art.

evo2000

Stillweak wrote: »

I really didn't mean to start any krav bashing. Im in no doubt that doing krav classes consistently will make you better at fighting than when you started. I just genuinely saw that post.
To answer the OP, I think that doing full contact kickboxing would be great for self defence but it's not the best thing. Anything where you put yourself in a situation where you are punching and kicking someone while trying to avoid getting punched and kicked would be good.
The golden rule for me would be
1) Does the class/club do Katas?
If so, it's not going to be good for self defence. It's only good for meeting people you can swap manga comics and Chinese martial arts DVDs with.
2) Does the class/club only do light contact or no contact sparring?
If so, it's not going to be good for self defence and your teacher is a liar unless he is upfront with you about this. All that you have learned will go out the window when somebody who actually wants to hurt you attacks. All those non contact staged scenarios you did will mean nothing when you get hit.

i wasnt bashing krav just some of the people that claim to be "masters of it" and are teaching other people, krav thought by the right people is good.

evo2000

RoboRat wrote: »

Full contact kickboxing is very functional and you don't need to be throwing spinning kicks to be effective. A good leg kick from someone who knows how to throw it will end most fights and its not hard to do. Also training in full contact will ensure you are used to punches and kicks and you won't end up like a rabbit in the headlights.

Points kickboxing is not effective and is a sport.



Judo, certainly. BJJ, only to sweep and get up. I wouldn't try a sub on the ground in a street fight, some filthy scumbag would give you a kick in the face.

Personally Muay Thai, MMA or Boxing is your most effective street fighting martial art.

Yeah mauy thai be more useful than kickboxing cause it has training in the clinch, and nasty elbows for in close!

Yeah thats what i ment by Bjj if your gonna be on the ground u may aswell know what your doing and you ve a better chance of gettin back to your feet and less chance of being stomped!

Cant imagine pulling off a arm bar at half 2 in the morning blocked drunk being a mighty idea

RoboRat

Cant imagine pulling off a arm bar at half 2 in the morning blocked drunk being a mighty idea

Problem is that at 2am after a gang of pints, people think their Pedro focking Sauer and think they could execute a triangle from guard on Westmoreland Street!

yomchi

Please leave zombie threads alone guys