Trouble with Youtube/flash in Ubuntu/Mint? try this!

BopNiblets

My fullscreen Youtube videos were crashing Mint 10 so I googled around a bit and found this easy fix that seems to have some success (ie preventing Ctrl Alt Deletes for me).

http://www.webupd8.org/2009/07/how-to-fix-full-screen-flash-videos-in.html
Change your firefox shortcut to run:

env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 firefox %u

instead of just

firefox %u

pickarooney

What does the %u do? My shortcut is currently just firefox

I'm having a lot of trouble with FF eating all my resources and hanging when playing flash. I had disabled the plugin-container thing because it was eating all my resources and causing the whole system to hang.

Is there a way of using another default format for YouTube? I seem to remember when the iPad was being launched they dismissed the absence of a Flash plugin as trivial as YouTube content could be played some other way but I'm a bit stumped as to how.

Stuxnet

firefox is dead, long live chromium 9

brian_rbk

use html5 .... http://www.youtube.com/html5

bnt

Or you could install Minitube - a dedicated YouTube viewer. Though Firefox is just fine here.

pickarooney

Having a look at minitube. Also installed Miro yesterday but haven't quite figured it out yet.

dabl

Flash has only recently started to use hardware acceleration on Windows so we must wait a while to get it on Linux (though i hear theres some progress in 64 bit). In the meantime there are various solutions. My favourite makes use of two firefox extensions. FlashVideoReplacer changes the flash wrapper to quicktime or wmv (youtube, vimeo only) and Mediaplayerconnectivity allows you to open certain files in an external media player such as smplayer. Make sure you enable the vdpau codec in the latter and now you have your graphics card taking all the load off the cpu.

Mathiasb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=IE&v=XITHbsUUlYI (1080p sample) plays fine in Archlinux 64-bit with flashplayer 10.1.102.64 and nvidia drivers 260.19.21, I get about 7-9% CPU usage on a C2D 2.4.

BopNiblets

pickarooney wrote: »

What does the %u do? My shortcut is currently just firefox

I think the %u thing is an url parameter, it's there by default for me on Mint but just firefox should work fine.

brian_rbk wrote: »

use html5 .... http://www.youtube.com/html5

Waitin' for Firefox 4 to be stable!

bnt wrote: »

Or you could install Minitube - a dedicated YouTube viewer. Though Firefox is just fine here.

The guy needs to make a new deb file for the new version or get a ppa or something, too lazy to build myself.

Mathiasb

Btw, FF 4.0b7 is very stable, I use it daily. Some addons don't work, but google toolbar, noscript, adblock etc work so I'm set

Naikon

Flash like ATI, is beyond a joke on Linux. You could try gecko-mediaplayer + viewtube greasemonkey script to get great playback using just mplayer embedded in your browser. Supports loads of codecs too:pac:

PDD

Hi Folks,

I have a problem similar to this, I have several Ubuntu based machines and on each of them I am unable to watch stuff full screen. I can have a youtube video that is perfectly fine on the page but when I full screen it the video goes very choppy.

I had a look online for a solution and it seems to be related to Compiz effects but unfortunately the posts I found got a bit too technical for me to follow easily. I don't know if thats the right direction either because on the 4 machines I have been using they all have nVidia or GeForce cards in them but I never installed them or proprietary drivers for them because it always cocks up my resolution and I've yet to find a way to easily configure the configuration (Im very disappointed with Ubuntu on this so any help here would be appreciated too)

Regards,

Dave

en.r4cart

iPwnage wrote: »

firefox is dead, long live chromium 9

Never agree. Firefox is perfect and powerful than any browser although it is slow when you open too many webpages.

Firefox is useful to develop user.

pickarooney

Chrome/chromium still looks like **** on linux

Stuxnet

en.r4cart wrote: »

Never agree. Firefox is perfect and powerful than any browser although it is slow when you open too many webpages.

Firefox is useful to develop user.

dead to me i should of said ! ive used FF for many many years, i know it inside out ! but ive moved on ! it has served it's time with me !

PDD

FF is long from dead for the single reason of extensions. Google in their infinite wisedom decided not to make extensions from FF compatible with Chrome so people who rely on extensions for work e.g. web developers or someone who has a serious setup of extensions for cataloguing research etc isn't going to switch until there is a viable alternative available. Besides in FF they will be introducing Tab Candy, Synch (including extensions), sand-boxed tabs in separate processes and alot of performance improvements.

To the best of my knowledge Google Chrome or Chromium will have none of these features and I think Synch for bookmarks, extensions will be fantastic and if Chrome doesn't release some thing similar they will fall behind. Although Im glad to see some people know the difference between spyware Google Chrome and Open Source Chromium. Anyone who has Chrome should delete it immediately.

Mathiasb

There's no way you can make FF extensions compatible with Chrome, it wasn't an intention by google, it's just by design. You can't fid a Honda engine on a Harley MC!

Chromium / Chrome is super fast, but lacks noscript. FF is OK and safe. The 4 betas are good (hw acceleration, yay).

I use both, personally.

pickarooney

Firefox is running like a dead dog on my home linux and work Windows machine. I had one tab open and it was eating 550MB of RAM a moment ago in Windows and I'm beginning to think it's responsible for some performance problems on my linux machine.

Mathiasb

pickarooney wrote: »

Firefox is running like a dead dog on my home linux and work Windows machine. I had one tab open and it was eating 550MB of RAM a moment ago in Windows and I'm beginning to think it's responsible for some performance problems on my linux machine.

What version of FF are you using? 1 tab open and 550MB usage, is that after startup or after a bit of browsing?

The more RAM it uses, the better (speeds up). It should release the memory after closing tabs though.

You can configure how much memory FF is allowed to use in preferences. Memleaks are mostly caused by extensions and plugins (flash and the like).

pickarooney

Mathiasb wrote: »

What version of FF are you using? 1 tab open and 550MB usage, is that after startup or after a bit of browsing?

The more RAM it uses, the better (speeds up). It should release the memory after closing tabs though.

You can configure how much memory FF is allowed to use in preferences. Memleaks are mostly caused by extensions and plugins (flash and the like).

This is OT as it happened on Windows but version 3.6.12 and I had initially 6 tabs open and had been browsing for an hour. I closed them all except boards and the RAM usage just kept going up and up and up and the browser was completely frozen.

In linux it uses less RAM but 95-98% CPU most of the time.

dabl

If you run powertop you can see that firefox wakes up 3x as often as chromium which corresponds to 3x more power usage. I was surprised when i ran ubuntu 1004 on two different machines , to see how much slower firefox was on one of them, though some tweaking of the pipelining was sufficient to bring them back level

PDD

Ah OSI if only you weren't so all Googled up. Yes you can do it with Google
but what happens if you don't buy their 'do no evil' brand bull**** and don't want to use Google maybe you want to use your own FTP server or another service provider. Oh wait thats right there are no other options - welcome to your Google! Please line up in an orderly fashion to receive your Google barcode :-P

If it was open to use other service providers then sure yeah its great but when your limited / forced to use Google because they dont give you another option its just a little bit fishy for me. Although I'm quite sure that as that matures there will be calls for Google to open up and I can see alot of anti-trust investigations in the EU starting into Google soon.

OSI just in case you don't know Chrome and Chromium are two different browsers. Firstly Chrome is produced by Google and has alot of baked in code that tracks pretty much every action you ever take and reports it back to Google. To the best of my knowledge there is no way to remove this or turn it off so if your using Google Chrome then "Big Brother" is literally watching you. If however you like tech, you like privacy and you hate spying companies then you can use Chromium. Chromium is an open-source project that Google engineers donate code to but when they make/build/compile Chrome its Chromium + Big Brother ****. So as far as I know the only way to use all the Chrome goodness without any of the intrusive "monitoring" is to use Chromium.

Mathiasb

Unless you're using TOR, privoxy, ssh tunnels, noscript, flashblock, adblock, and using an ISP which is not a part of the EU (as they require ISPs to log everything for 2 years or so), it doesn't matter what OS/browser you use as you can be tracked down anyway.

PDD

@Mathiasb - Are you sure about the ISP thing? Granted you have to use alot of technical tricks and skill to be truely anonymous. There's a big difference between that and offering up your data.

pickarooney

Is there any difference between Chrome and Chromium in terms of font rendering? It's truly horrid in Chrome.

Mathiasb

PDD wrote: »

@Mathiasb - Are you sure about the ISP thing? Granted you have to use alot of technical tricks and skill to be truely anonymous. There's a big difference between that and offering up your data.

I know that Sweden has to do it because of some EU law.. Not sure about what law it is or the situation in Ireland, but it's supposedly an EU law!

d'Oracle

iPwnage wrote: »

firefox is dead, long live chromium 9

I Tried Both.
I'd still take Firefox anyday.

Mathiasb

d'Oracle wrote: »

I Tried Both.
I'd still take Firefox anyday.

Heads up for FF 4 beta 8 in a week or so

pickarooney

They're both insufferably bad at the moment. I hate when good browsers go bad.
What's on the table in V4?

Mathiasb

pickarooney wrote: »

They're both insufferably bad at the moment. I hate when good browsers go bad.
What's on the table in V4?

Lots of little things; http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/features/