Irish Rail 'zones'

rab!dmonkey

I get a monthly student ticket for my commute between Phoenix Park and Pearse Station. On the ticket it reads 'Ticket Type: LEVEL 3 OUTER - FEEDER' and 'VALID BETWEEN ALL STATIONS IN ZONE'. The only reference to 'zones' I can find on irishrail.ie is the 'Short Hop Zone' in which the smart card works. How far does 'level 3' go?

Casey_81

extract from : http://www.railusers.ie/passenger_info/ticketing.php

Dublin region ticket zones explained

The pricing structure and validity of many weekly, monthly and annual tickets is expressed on a zonal basis in the Greater Dublin Region. Tickets are valid for all journeys within specified zone. The details of these zones is not available in recent timetables for reasons unknown.

Zone List

Inner Short Hop: Rush & Lusk, Maynooth, Hazelhatch & Celbridge, Bray and all Luas services
(Outer) Short Hop: Balbriggan, Maynooth, Hazelhatch & Celbridge and Kilcoole
Medium Hop: Gormanston, Kilcock and Sallins & Naas
Long Hop: Drogheda, Enfield, Kildare and Wicklow
Giant Hop: Dundalk, Mullingar, Tullamore, Portlaoise, Carlow and Gorey
Fares for the Short Hop zone may be found here

rab!dmonkey

Casey_81 wrote: »

Inner Short Hop: Rush & Lusk, Maynooth, Hazelhatch & Celbridge, Bray and all Luas services

I wasn't aware of any tickets that worked on both LUAS and Irish Rail. Looking at the railuser.ie list of tickets valid on LUAS, I don't see one like mine, but mine has the word 'feeder' in 'Ticket Type' so it seems like it's valid on the LUAS. What a pleasant surprise.

foggy_lad

You should not need a Luas on this journey between Phoenix Park and Pearse station so having Luas on your tickets may mean you are paying more than you need to?

rab!dmonkey wrote: »

I get a monthly student ticket for my commute between Phoenix Park and Pearse Station. On the ticket it reads 'Ticket Type: LEVEL 3 OUTER - FEEDER' and 'VALID BETWEEN ALL STATIONS IN ZONE'. The only reference to 'zones' I can find on irishrail.ie is the 'Short Hop Zone' in which the smart card works. How far does 'level 3' go?

KC61

foggy_lad wrote: »

You should not need a Luas on this journey between Phoenix Park and Pearse station so having Luas on your tickets may mean you are paying more than you need to?

There is only one Rail Only Monthly Student Commuter ticket in Dublin - it is valid on Dublin Bus Feeder services 90, 145 (To Leeson St), 102, 111, and 114 and all Iarnrod Eireann trains to Maynooth, M3 Parkway, Balbriggan, Howth, Kilcoole and Hazelhatch.

It is not valid on LUAS.

There is a separate Rail/LUAS ticket.

Victor

rab!dmonkey wrote: »

I wasn't aware of any tickets that worked on both LUAS and Irish Rail. Looking at the railuser.ie list of tickets valid on LUAS, I don't see one like mine, but mine has the word 'feeder' in 'Ticket Type' so it seems like it's valid on the LUAS. What a pleasant surprise.

Just because Luas is in the zone, doesn't mean that your ticket is necessarily valid on Luas.

The Savoy cinema is in the zone, but you wouldn't expect you ticket to be valid there, would you.

While yes, it would be good to be able to get from any DART station to any Luas stop and vice versa on a single ticket, that generally isn't possible yet.

rab!dmonkey

I thought it would be valid because the word 'feeder' was there. The link I posted earlier seems to indicate that if the words 'incl. feeder service' are on the ticket it is valid on the LUAS. If you guys say it isn't, I'll take your word for it.

Lapin

Victor wrote: »

The Savoy cinema is in the zone, but you wouldn't expect you ticket to be valid there, would you.

I don't see why not.

I don't understand why integrated fares aren't in use in Dublin.

A service like the Oyster card in London could be introduced and extended to cover costs other than transport, such as admission to cinemas, theatres and other attractions.

It would involve some imagination and joined up thinking for it to happen so I won't hold my breath.

Cookie_Monster

Lapin wrote: »

I don't understand why integrated fares aren't in use in Dublin.
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Because this is Ireland and nothing works properly.


I mean the feeder buses don't even feed the DART anymore, 11x were feeder buses originally, how many are even left and those that are, 111 & 114 are useless as feeders as there are so few of them, most of the drivers look at you like you have two heads when you ask for a ticket through to Tara street etc

donvito99

You use Pheonix park station? Thats a first...

rab!dmonkey

It's ten metres closer to my house than Castleknock station is.