Audiobook which will challenge Agnostics!

someoneok

Against the gods is a new book by Stefan Molyneux which will challenge the agnostics out there. If after this book you keep your position, the author claims you are a coward. Enjoy!

http://www.freedomainradio.com/FreeBooks/AgainsttheGods.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1boMRKWDj1I

strobe

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someoneok

someoneok wrote: »

Against the gods is a new book by Stefan Molyneux which will challenge the agnostics out there. If after this book you keep your position, the author claims you are a coward. Enjoy!

http://www.freedomainradio.com/FreeBooks/AgainsttheGods.aspx

Oh no!
I had better revise my position in case some random author calls me a coward!! :eek:

simplistic2

Haha I enjoyed this bit!

Imagine that you drive over to a friend’s house to pick him up to go to a movie. You knock on the door, and he opens it.

“Let's go,” you say.

He hesitates. “I can't go through that door,” he says.

“Why not?”

He purses his lips and shakes his head. “Because it might be closed in some alternate universe...”

Would you accept this as a rational and healthy statement on the part of your friend?

Of course not. You would try to get him some professional help. You would be particularly concerned that he opened the door in the first place – thus indicating specific knowledge about its status – and only then got all foggy about whether it was opened or closed.

But this is exactly the position of agnostics! They open the door of reason and evidence in order to nullify reason and evidence. They use a rational argument to say that reason is invalid. They create evidence out of thin air which is the opposite of existence and essentially say that no conclusions can be made because existence might equal the opposite of existence.

Wow, what a total misunderstanding of agnosticism.

Kinda worrying to know that atheists can fall into that trap as well.

Dades

You get what you pay for! *

* Haven't listened so reserving judgement...

sponsoredwalk

While strolling through the sunny woods one day, you spy a man slithering
through the undergrowth, heavily camouflaged and gripping a bow and
arrow.“What are you hunting?” you ask.“Dragons!” hisses the man proudly.

You frown. “Dragons? But dragons don’t exist!”

The man nods emphatically. “I completely agree with you! There ain’t no
such thing as dragons. And I’m a-gonna shoot me one!” He raises his bow
and arrow, narrows his eyes and glares through the trees, hungry to
target the non-existent.
At this point, you would surely take a series of slow and steady steps
backwards, aiming to put some safer distance between you and a
deranged man wielding a bow and arrow.

Jeesh, (s)he's full of these mini stories that are supposed to emphasize
some deep moral point on the concept of rationality.

I think we've found atheism's Ray Comfort

ShooterSF

I think most of us are at times guilty of mislabeling ourselves one or the other when most of us are both. When that happens silly things like these audio books pop up.
I'm reminded of the chap that came on here recently and renounced most of catholicism and then got upset with us for "taking" the label Catholic off him. In a way we sometimes act the same.

Say it with me folks I'm an Agnostic Atheist and proud of it

philologos

Leave the agnostics alone! :pac:

Dades

Jakkass wrote: »

Leave the agnostics alone! :pac:

Are they really alone, though? How can they be sure!

goingpostal

How can I 'know' that this thread exists? How can I 'know' that these are MY feet? How can I 'know' that the sky won't fall down tomorrow? etc.

Sardonicat

Why an audiobook? Does he not think agnostics can read?

WeeBushy

Sardonicat wrote: »

Why an audiobook? Does he not think agnostics can read?

Maybe he's not sure if they can read. A subconscious agnostic, I'd say..

HavingCrack

goingpostal wrote: »

How can I 'know' that this thread exists? How can I 'know' that these are MY feet? How can I 'know' that the sky won't fall down tomorrow? etc.

Welcome to the Matrix...

Seriously though, questioning your own existence can become very worrying, I don't like it one .

sponsoredwalk

Sardonicat wrote: »

Why an audiobook? Does he not think agnostics can read?

Although not an agnostic, there are a lot of books I've listened to in
audiobook format that otherwise I probably would not have read.
I think it's a smart choice for the indeterminate :pac:

Sardonicat

I've never listened to an audiobook in my life! And I'm an agnostic.

Improbable

Sardonicat wrote: »

I've never listened to an audiobook in my life! And I'm an agnostic.

You haven't lived until you've listened to Stephen Fry do the Harry Potter books

iguana

Sardonicat wrote: »

I've never listened to an audiobook in my life! And I'm an agnostic.

They are great for listening to while you do a mundane physical job like housework, gardening or painting.

Improbable

Improbable wrote: »

You haven't lived until you've listened to Stephen Fry do the Harry Potter books

:eek:
I'm intrigued.


Don't think I could manage an audiobook though

The Mad Hatter

Audiobooks are great for falling asleep to.

Also, Stephen Fry's Harry Potters are excellent, but I've heard that the American recordings are even better.

On a similar (more atheistic) line, the full-cast reading with Philip Pullman narrating of the His Dark Materials trilogy is superb.

robindch

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Audiobooks are great for falling asleep to.

Agree -- I've been falling asleep to BBC Radio 4 for almost thirty years

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Stephen Fry's Harry Potters are excellent, but I've heard that the American recordings are even better.

I've heard both -- Fry's better, imho.

The best narration I've heard is Nicol Williamson's reading of The Hobbit from the mid-70's, Richard Burton's version of Dylan Thomas' Under Milk Wood and the R4 reading of Thomas' magnificent A Child's Christmas in Wales by a welsh actor who's name temporarily escapes me.

BTW, there's story-telling "for the family" at twelve today in Bray for any fans of the spoken voice:

http://issuu.com/mermaidartscentre/docs/yarnbraysfestivalofstoryandsong?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true

Dades

robindch wrote: »

The best narration I've heard is Nicol Williamson's reading of The Hobbit from the mid-70's...

That is so weird - I was listening to that walking to work all last week! It's damn good alright.

But for me nothing beats Roy Dotrice doing George RR Martin's A Song of Ice & Fire books (1-3). He's been in my ear for 6 months.