Govt. Soundbites - Let's Make a List .

Leiva

Let's compile a list of the sound bites we have been fed leading up to this dark day today .
This will put things into perspective and show what we have been told 'v' what actually happened , with the advantage of hindsight of course .

I will get it started with the first 2 ...

Rumbles of the property market in trouble;
"The Irish Economy will see a soft landing "

Lehmans goes to the wall ;
"Irish banks are fundamentally sound "

Your turn .....
"

Tora Bora

mixednuts wrote: »

Let's compile a list of the sounds bites we have been fed leading up to this dark day today .
This will put things into perspective and show what we have been told 'v' what actually happened , with the advantage of hindsight of course .

I will get it started with the first 2 ...

Rumbles of the property market in trouble;
"The Irish Economy will see a soft landing "

Lehmans goes to the wall ;
"Irish banks are fundamentally sound "

Your turn .....
"

"The Irish economy has turned the corner"

gleep

Comical Lenny (whilst straining breath)

" Let me be clear, we are fully funded until the middle of next year"

ei.sdraob

Brian Cowen: "We are not in a consultation with the IMF"


Frank Fahey (2008): "If I was to give advice to people, I would say, go out and buy some property now. It's great value."

ei.sdraob

Frank Fahey Newstalk radio, 12.45pm, 7 July 2010:

"All the assumptions are that property will go back up [...]

I have no doubt that NAMA will make a profit [...]

I heard economists from one of the universities making predictions and you can't make predictions about what's going to happen to the property market."

"NAMA will be transparent"

"I tell you one thing, Damien, [...] if I could get my hands on money at the moment, I'd be buying property"

:mad:

Brussels Sprout

"People shouldn't be talking down the Irish economy"

Willie O' Dea in his column with the Spindo pretty much every single week (along with assorted anti-Twitter swipes)

SkepticOne

I can't find the exact quote but the one where Lenehan believes that there won't be a bank run on the basis that Ireland is an island. This was in a conference call directly to bond holders.

Amhran Nua

SkepticOne wrote: »

I can't find the exact quote but the one where Lenehan believes that there won't be a bank run on the basis that Ireland is an island.

...because the money would be too heavy to carry across the water? If you can find that quote I'd be interested to see it.

Leiva

Brian Lenihan's Budget speech-Conclusion


December 9th 2009



..Less Than 12 months ago

A Cheann Comhairle, we have taken the hard decisions, but we have been fair.

• We have preserved the real value of social welfare for those most in need.
• We have protected older citizens.
• We have reduced the cost of public services.
• We have taken action on credit to protect borrowers.
• We have cut taxes to protect jobs in retail and tourism.
• We have maintained significant investment spending to promote future growth.
• We have announced measures to save jobs, stimulate employment and protect the environment.

Our plan is working.
We have turned the corner.


I commend this Budget to the House.

Our plan is working.
We have turned the corner."

Sweet Jesus !

lmimmfn

mixednuts wrote: »

Brian Lenihan's Budget speech-Conclusion


December 9th 2009



..Less Than 12 months ago





Our plan is working.
We have turned the corner."

Sweet Jesus !

well he was right, we did turn a corner, except it was to oblivion

SkepticOne

Amhran Nua wrote: »

...because the money would be too heavy to carry across the water? If you can find that quote I'd be interested to see it.

Here's an article with the quote.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/we-will-paddle-our-own-canoe-lenihan-2366472.html

A tape of the call with mainly UK investors also revealed that Mr Lenihan said he saw no evidence that retail investors were withdrawing money from Irish banks, with Ireland's island status making this unlikely.
"Ireland is an island and in any island people tend to stay with their local bank," he said.

The recording of the conference call is also available on the net here:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/811167506d52d618/

This is apparently a restart of the conference call after the animal noises heckling that happened earlier.

z0oT

"Anglo Irish Bank is a major financial institution whose viability is of systemic importance to Ireland” - Brian Lenihan

Laminations

http://thestory.ie/quotes-from-brian-lenihan/

a useful summary of Brian Lenihans ramblings and mistruths

Sand

Stolen from the intarweb...

Senator Donie Cassidy: Prices are now nearing the bottom end. Recently I quoted a house price from the midlands, offering a brand new, semi-detached, three-bedroomed house with everything in place for €195,000. I can now recount to the House that in many larger towns such as Mullingar, Athlone or Tullamore, it is possible to get a four-bedroomed, semi-detached house with fitted kitchen for €260,000. Now is the right time to buy.

We have a duty to tell first-time house buyers, young couples with no previous experience, that there is unbelievable value in the marketplace today. It will not last forever. It is never the wrong time to do the right thing.

I offer the House the benefit of my experience and my opinion which is all any Member can do. I will remind the House, perhaps in 12 or 18 months, when prices have again increased by 25% or 30%, that they were told this by the Leader of the House on this historic day, the tenth anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement.

April 10th should be instituted as a national holiday, Donnie Cassidy day, when the future generations of schoolchildren of Ireland are taught how village idiots were paid ridiculous salaries for their opinions and experience.

EDIT: That story.ie link is a goldmine. Best quote so far is

Irish Times…

“We are not rushing into the banks without knowing precisely what the position is in those banks” – Nov 20 2008

ORLY?

Laminations

Sure here is a lie sorry soundbite from this morning
"Europe told us to extend the guarantee"


according to Mr. Lenihan on Morning Ireland this morning.

However,

IT wrote:

A spokeswoman for the Department of Finance said it had made an application to the European Commission for an extension of the guarantee to June 2011 and that application was currently being considered by the commission.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/1110/1224283024970.html

Laminations

Sand wrote: »

Stolen from the intarweb...
April 10th should be instituted as a national holiday, Donnie Cassidy day, when the future generations of schoolchildren of Ireland are taught how village idiots were paid ridiculous salaries for their opinions and experience.

So did Donnie the Wise ever get round to reminding the house? I think he should be reminded of his idiotic misleading comments every time he tries to open his mouth in the Seanad.

unit 1

Mary Hanafin after the Farmleigh thinkin (she said this on 2 radio shows)

We have gone from negative growth to level growth.:mad: I nearly fell off my chair.

ei.sdraob

Not from the govt, but from next best thing RTE from last nights PrimeTime

Miriam to O’Keefe:

“I’m shocked you’re not shocked minister.”

peasant

Lads ...you need to go back a bit further than that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA

McLovinit

Sand wrote: »

Stolen from the intarweb...


April 10th should be instituted as a national holiday, Donnie Cassidy day, when the future generations of schoolchildren of Ireland are taught how village idiots were paid ridiculous salaries for their opinions and

ORLY?

So funny and so sad it's true. I heard someone during the week call it gombeen politics. What a reflection is it on us as a nation that we have continued to elect these dynasties of half baked idiots, like jackie Healy rae who's contribution to politics was to have a son that folioed in his footsteps wearing stupid f'ing flat caps......or frank fahey trying to convince people to get out and buy buy buy so we boost his undeclared property portfolio. The only thing we can be sure of is that everyday the Dail does sit that we as a nation are depriving a city, town or village of an idiot

Our grandchildrens children will look back at us and think what a useless and wastefull generation

previous user

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Brian Cowen: "We are not in a consultation with the IMF"


Frank Fahey (2008): "If I was to give advice to people, I would say, go out and buy some property now. It's great value."

:eek:

alang184

Didn't Lenihan say something like "It's the cheapest bank bailout in the world" ?

Leiva

peasant wrote: »

Lads ...you need to go back a bit further than that

How on earth did I forget this .

I know the 2 Brians are in the firing line but fook me Bertie has alot to answer for .

Sure if he walked around Drumcondra in the morning he will probably still get swamped by the hand shaking semi orgasmic flush faced gombeens , who think he is the best thing since slice bread .

I swear I love my country but it seems we are in some sort of parallel Universe .

We need a new party of Young fresh faced "human beings" with proper policies and ideas .

God help us .
Rant Over (sorry)
M.

ei.sdraob

Brian Lenihan @ 6.1 news today 18th Nov 2010 wrote:

The banks grew to such a size that they became too unmanageable for the state itself

Dear Brian, they grew to such a size under your governments long watch and under the eyes of the Regulator who sat back and allowed this to happen :mad:

Laminations

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Dear Brian, they grew to such a size under your governments long watch and under the eyes of the Regulator who sat back and allowed this to happen :mad:

I was listening to that open-mouthed, him suggesting the banks just passively got out of control as if in a governmentless vacuum! No sense of responsibility

ei.sdraob

Laminations wrote: »

I was listening to that open-mouthed, him suggesting the banks just passively got out of control as if in a governmentless vacuum! No sense of responsibility

Yep, yet another quote from tonite's show

Brian O&#8217 wrote: »

We wont need a bailout

Brian O&#8217 wrote: »

We simply can not allow that [IMF running our affairs] to happen, because if it does the clouds of darkness would come down on this country

:rolleyes: ****ing hell why do I get a feeling I will be adding that quote to my signature sooner rather than later.

yoshytoshy

We're part of a global economy ,
going forward ,
it's a technical issue ,not a bailout.

Sand

Laminations wrote: »

So did Donnie the Wise ever get round to reminding the house? I think he should be reminded of his idiotic misleading comments every time he tries to open his mouth in the Seanad.

I remember him being challenged on that previously...typical FF blather in response about no one being able to have seen this coming etc.

Essentially, the man has no shame, as his appearance on the Late Late for the Seanad special demonstrated. The real shame is that even if he was not elected to office, he is the product of a political system and class endorsed by the Irish people. If it wasnt Donnie, itd be some other clown.

Flimbos

peasant wrote: »

Lads ...you need to go back a bit further than that

+1, we must not forget Bertie Ahern, and the part he played in all this.

28th April 2007:
"On the other side of the election we'll get back to normality. And I think that normality will be the soft landing. The construction projections were that we will move from something like 93,000 houses to 80-something. Now that's not going to create any kind of a difficulty."

Ahern's take on rising inflation (not sure of date):
"The reason it's on the rise is because probably the boom times are getting even more boomier."

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"We are going to stimulate growth by cutting expenditure" -- Pat Carey on prime time tonight