CCTV for cattle shead

086lavey

Can any suggest a four camera kit , its for a customer of mine, shead is about 150mts from houes , want to be able to wire system in cat5, (no coax) , been told its better on long runs , must have night vision ,and not cost the earth !!! thanks

M cebee

most of them i see are done wireless

don't know much

086lavey

have not much time for wireless systems , had a heating system done wireless and it broke my heart !!!!! thanks

delly

Moved from Electrical to HSS

Jnealon

Have a look at the list of suppliers here
Most of the suppliers will sort you out with a kit
Proper wireless kit like Mel secure or rdt is expensive

stepbystep

stay away from wireless!!!!! if its only 150mtrs, run cat5! if its a 4 camera system and you have power in the shed, you could run the 4 cameras back to a dvr and monitor in the house over a single cat5, but would reccommend running a 2nd, just incase! i have a vry good supplier in cork, just message my in box and will send you on his details, he has a lovely kit that i swear by, 4 channel h.264, 500g dvr, 4 vandal proof eyeball I.R dome cameras, monitor, power supplies and video balluns for the cat5

Jnealon

stepbystep wrote: »

stay away from wireless!!!!!

I'm not sure what you mean here, wireless is very reliable when proper kit is used
Only last week I sent both video and telemetry 600M with no problems

stepbystep wrote: »

he has a lovely kit that i swear by, 4 channel h.264

I would be more interested in how many frames the DVR can record and at what resolution. There is no point in having a H264 capable DVR if the resolution and frame rate are poor

stepbystep

Jnealon wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean here, wireless is very reliable when proper kit is used
Only last week I sent both video and telemetry 600M with no problems


I would be more interested in how many frames the DVR can record and at what resolution. There is no point in having a H264 capable DVR if the resolution and frame rate are poor

Heya Jnealon

Can post the frame rate and resolution up here if you like, i have no doubt that there is good wireless, i just have no fate in it and the good wireless equipment is usually expensive, i have put it in put in a calf kit, house was over 900m from the shed but had good line of site was just sending video and worked fine, but is just me, wireless would be a last resort for me, id prefer to dig a 150 mtr trench and run the cat5 then go wireless, but thats just my opinion on it!

funmanger

hi there.there are a few different systems available and the size of the camera is normally what dictates the price.
i supply cctv equipment and if you are running cat5 you will require either a four way video balon or individual baluns.
what i recommend is a h264 4ch DVR, external IR cameras 600tvl,and a four way balun which would allow you run the four cameras on a single cat5.

Jnealon

funmanger wrote: »

hi there.there are a few different systems available and the size of the camera is normally what dictates the price.
i supply cctv equipment and if you are running cat5 you will require either a four way video balon or individual baluns.
what i recommend is a h264 4ch DVR, external IR cameras 600tvl,and a four way balun which would allow you run the four cameras on a single cat5.

Tell me more about this h264 dvr, frame rate, D1, 1/2D1, cif etc

stepbystep

heya jnealon

This is the link to the specs for the DVR i mentioned, take a look and let me no what you think? have yet to have a complaint about, but is always nice to get a bit of feed back for an installer with alot of experience

http://www.mcpaddenenterprises.com/files/4-9-16CH%20DVR%20specs.pdf

Cheers
Shane

sparktest

Not to bring this post off on a tangent...

I have existing cameras and want to view on Iphone, I am not a fan of wireless either, so considering going down the route of CAT6 from a new DVR to wireless router.

Can DVRs be sold without harddrive, do not need to record just watch live etc.?

stepbystep

yea you probably could, but you'd have to approach a wholesaler and to be honest what you'd save wouldnt be worth it, you be better off to buy it with the hard drive in it

KoolKid

I really can't think of any benefit from not have the images recorded.

stepbystep

There wouldnt be any benefit to not having a hard drive in it, just didnt wanna be that blunt!:D
Your in the game longer then i am koolkid, what would it save him to buy it without the hard drive, 50 maybe 60 euro if he's lucky??? would i be right

KoolKid

If even that. If he is buying a standard machine off the shelf they would probably charge more for removing the HDD to be honest.
No matter what the application its always best to have the images recorded.

stepbystep

I completly and utterly agree with yea mate, completly defeats the purpose of putting in a CCTV system if your not goin to have a HDD in it.

sparktest

its for a cattle shed which shows cows calving. A job for a family friend, doesnt need to have a hard drive just live footage to show when assitance may be required...

have a look at the following on RS, no harddrive as standard...

thoughts??

€290
http://radionics.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=7044246

or

€190
http://radionics.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=6966704

KoolKid

Both of these appear to have HDD for recording.

From the first link

4 Channel Compact Digital Recorder
A compact 4 channel HDD digital video recorder with H.264 compression and simple to operate with a mouse

Recordings can be started manually, following a schedule, using motion sensors or in the event of an alarm (4 NO/NC alarm inputs). Data can be exported via the integral USB interface. Simultaneous live view, playback and data export are also available (triplex operation). In addition, an RS-485 interface allows a pan/tilt/zoom (PTZ) camera to be controlled.

From the second link

4 Channel Security DVR H.264 VGA
4 channel video recording
H.264 compression ideal for saving HDD space
Single channel audio recording and playback
Real time live display
Up to 120fps @ 360x240 recording (NTSC)
Up to 100fps @ 360 x 288 recording (PAL)
Alarm and motion detection recording
Front panel and USB mouse control options
IR remote controller and client viewer
Intiutive menu driven user interface
Supports 1 SATA HDD (1TB max. capacity)
Pan / Tilt / Zoom camera control
Data backup: USB devices, network
Event trigger with email notification: motion detection, alarm, video loss
Multi-language on screen display

Price wise there is going to be little or no difference.
You are as well to have recording.
As the saying goes.
Its better to have it & not need it that to need it & not have it.

sparktest

Thanks for the replies guys.
Will let you know what space comes with the unit.