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Metro North/Dart Underground Will Be Built Here's Why?

  • 16-11-2010 2:24pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭


    The EU have ordered all Govenments to construct underground railway tunnels in cities for upcoming possible environmental disasters or future wars.

    Think the LU during the Blitz, the Berlin U-Bahn etc. These infrastructures make excellent war time shelters.

    These tunnels are not for us to shelter in. Well not the plebs. They are for the Governments to keep working and with access to airports. This is why tunnelling machines are never removed. Nothing to do with "too expensive" mularkey they can dig secret military and other storage tunnels. What do you think a small city like Washington DC has such a complex metro...

    They will get built no matter what. No need to worry. It's EU policy. It is also why I would not rule out a tunnel under the sea to the UK. Nothing to do with public transport really. That would be the cover story. Since we are no longer a free nation and are part of the EU empire we have to get used to this kind of thing. "Little neutral Ireland" is a thing of the past.

    Frankly, I am amazed nobody has realised this yet. Especially with the amount of tunnelling in Dublin under/near the financial district and government buildings. I can bet you all kinds of little secrect entrances will be hooked into MN and Dart Underground.

    Again, forget that you are still Irish with your old timey "oirish" needs. We are in an empire once again with major miliatry objectives. Just because it wasn't on the Lisbon Treaty YES posters... Did they mention the financial bailouts on the YES poster?

    So take heart train fans. The MN and DART Underground are a sure thing. EU strategic policy comes before commuters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    Is this a conspiracy theory, or is there documentation outlining such policies? If so, could you link?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Moved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    I can't wait to see the proof of this. Cause I dunno if you've noticed the traffic in Dublin recently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭BluntGuy


    Aard wrote: »
    Is this a conspiracy theory, or is there documentation outlining such policies? If so, could you link?

    lol, I'd love to see what such a policy document would be called. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Think the LU during the Blitz, the Berlin U-Bahn etc. These infrastructures make excellent war time shelters.

    Maybe the do in general, but the U-Bhan didn't. Hitler flooded it to prevent the Red Army using it, loads were killed in the process. Before that it was closed because the power station for it was bombed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    BluntGuy wrote: »
    lol, I'd love to see what such a policy document would be called. :D

    Wartime lulz.

    How to kill two birds with one stone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    The EU have ordered all Govenments to construct underground railway tunnels in cities for upcoming possible environmental disasters or future wars.

    Think the LU during the Blitz, the Berlin U-Bahn etc. These infrastructures make excellent war time shelters.

    These tunnels are not for us to shelter in. Well not the plebs. They are for the Governments to keep working and with access to airports. This is why tunnelling machines are never removed. Nothing to do with "too expensive" mularkey they can dig secret military and other storage tunnels. What do you think a small city like Washington DC has such a complex metro...

    They will get built no matter what. No need to worry. It's EU policy. It is also why I would not rule out a tunnel under the sea to the UK. Nothing to do with public transport really. That would be the cover story. Since we are no longer a free nation and are part of the EU empire we have to get used to this kind of thing. "Little neutral Ireland" is a thing of the past.

    Frankly, I am amazed nobody has realised this yet. Especially with the amount of tunnelling in Dublin under/near the financial district and government buildings. I can bet you all kinds of little secrect entrances will be hooked into MN and Dart Underground.

    Again, forget that you are still Irish with your old timey "oirish" needs. We are in an empire once again with major miliatry objectives. Just because it wasn't on the Lisbon Treaty YES posters... Did they mention the financial bailouts on the YES poster?

    So take heart train fans. The MN and DART Underground are a sure thing. EU strategic policy comes before commuters.

    Yeah, perhaps during WW2 maybe. But with Smart bombs and bunker busters I doubt a Metro north station is going to provide much protection.

    The rest is just nonsense. A small city like Washington DC? Washington is fecking massive. And exactly what strategic significance is there to the Irish Financial service centre?

    On two random asides our key airport in the event of a european war is knock. It can actually handle planes like Hercules and 747, and was built using USAF money.

    And during WW2, you actually had to Q up and buy a ticket on the underground,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    On two random asides our key airport in the event of a european war is knock. It can actually handle planes like Hercules and 747, and was built using USAF money.
    Got anything to Back that assertion, like ya know EVIDENCE

    cos thats a BIG Claim, it would answer Christy moores question and everything


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Got anything to Back that assertion, like ya know EVIDENCE

    cos thats a BIG Claim, it would answer Christy moores question and everything

    Ulick McEvaddy is a patient man.

    It’s one of the many qualities that have taken him from a farming childhood in Mayo to a lavish lifestyle as one of the world’s most successful aviation tycoons. Anyone who has done business with him will testify that he nearly always gets what he wants in the end.

    So when his proposal last week that Knock Airport should be used as a stopover for US troops was greeted with widespread derision, McEvaddy is unlikely to have been too put out. As a former military man himself, he knows that you rarely win wars without losing the odd skirmish along the way.

    ‘‘It’s typical Ulick," said a source who knows him well. ‘‘He loves stirring it up, making provocative statements that he knows will shock people. But at the same time, there’s usually a very carefully thought-out strategy behind everything he says."

    McEvaddy was a close friend of Monsignor James Horan, the founder of Knock Airport. He backed the airport financially and first served on its board in the late 1980s. Before long, however, he had quarrelled with the local TD, one Padraig Flynn, and left in a huff, accusing Flynn of ‘‘political vandalism’’.

    It took 17 years for the board to lure him back - and, in light of last week’s controversy, they may be wishing they hadn’t. At a time when Irish attitudes towards US foreign policy are as hostile as they have ever been, calling for even more US troops to be allowed to avail of our airport facilities is unlikely to win McEvaddy many friends.

    The avuncular entrepreneur, however, is entirely unapologetic. He has enormous ambitions for Knock, believing that new international flying regulations will allow the airport to start pitching for American and other long-haul flights.

    And, as he pointed out last week: ‘‘I have huge connections with the US military and, if it came to using them, I would."

    http://www.thepost.ie/archives/2007/0121/opportunity-knocks-20347.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Got anything to Back that assertion, like ya know EVIDENCE

    cos thats a BIG Claim, it would answer Christy moores question and everything

    Nice attempt at ninja edit. But I reported the post for your personal abuse

    "Originally you said "Posted by F****T****""


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruthann/2134809289/

    Knock airport can handle 747s, and has done so. Why is a small provincial airport so well equipped?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    That I did, however I'm not tellin you what it means:p

    Anyway

    Where in that piece that you linked does it suggest that the USAF funded or even Partially funded Knock, Seriously if they had built Knock surely they wouldnt be arsin about in Shannon:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Knock airport can handle 747s, and has done so. Why is a small provincial airport so well equipped?

    Cause they don't need a particularly long runway to take off or land?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    The EU have ordered all Govenments to construct underground railway tunnels in cities for upcoming possible environmental disasters or future wars.

    Cork already has a rail tunnel in the form of the tunnel between Blackpool and Kent Station, but when do Waterford, Galway, Limerick and Kilkenny get theirs?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Maybe because it was built by the same sort of Religious Fruitloops who are obsessed with Cathedrals and other implausibly large constructions, ya know the Catholics, there was a point in the eighties where they cut back on Buggering small boys to collect Funds for this Airport, its not like space was at a premium over there in the Wilds of Mayo, they made a Runway capable of landing the largest plane operating at the time, If I remember correctly it was supposedly capable of Landing a Concorde too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    I guessed what you mean, post reported. It was offensive and rude. I notice you've not bothered with anything akin to a apology

    As to knock

    This is one of the conspiracy theories that I happen to believe in, scary I know

    http://integrator.hanscom.af.mil/2006/July/07132006/07132006-16.htm
    McEvaddy wouldn’t discuss any rendition-related overtures. But he did serve as an intelligence officer during 10 years in the Irish Army.

    Is it explicitly saying Mc Faddy and Knock was a US base no.

    Why are they mucking about with Shannon, because Shannon has the infrastructure to cope with dozens of flight.

    However when Knock was built in the 1980s I suspect Shannon would have been at least a secondary target in a Nuclear exchange between Russia and America. Knock could be quickly upgraded to serve as a reserve US airbase, because it has the capacity to handle 747s.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    NuMarvel wrote: »
    Cork already has a rail tunnel in the form of the tunnel between Blackpool and Kent Station, but when do Waterford, Galway, Limerick and Kilkenny get theirs?

    Waaaaaaterford has a reasonably long tunnel near Ferrybank already if we need somewhere to hide from impending artillary strikes

    Galway and Limrick wouldnt be missed anyway:D:p

    And Kilkenny FFS did you not get the memo, its not a City, therefore its inhabitants are expendible in the eyes of our Lizzzard overlords


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    If I remember correctly it was supposedly capable of Landing a Concorde too.

    Maybe this has more to do with it...

    The runway could have been evisaged as an emergency runway, in the event that a trans atlantic flight might run into trouble?

    Anywho, wouldn't an RAF base make more sense for the US to use a striking platform? I don't think they can use neutral territories for such things.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Maybe this has more to do with it...

    The runway could have been evisaged as an emergency runway, in the event that a trans atlantic flight might run into trouble?

    Anywho, wouldn't an RAF base make more sense for the US to use a striking platform? I don't think they can use neutral territories for such things.

    RAF bases would have been 1st strike targets, and I think in the event of global nuclear war the USAF could give a damn about neutrality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    When Mary Harney first came into office with the PD's and FF, she said something along the lines of "using the tunnel under the Dail as a means of escape if ever the people uprise against the government". I haven't got the exact quote but it was along the lines of as strange as that, was all over the papers at the time, thought it very odd myself seeing as how the public where generally fairly content with the government at the time all those years ago (how things change eh...) but as for Metro North - There's many a valid and good reason why it should go ahead and the arguments put forward against it going ahead have been weak, so I guess the next step is to introduce a conspiracy theory as to why it is going ahead :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    Waaaaaaterford has a reasonably long tunnel near Ferrybank already if we need somewhere to hide from impending artillary strikes

    Galway and Limrick wouldnt be missed anyway:D:p

    And Kilkenny FFS did you not get the memo, its not a City, therefore its inhabitants are expendible in the eyes of our Lizzzard overlords

    Didn't know that about Waterford, thanks. Always good to know should I get the wrong train at the wrong time.

    As for Kilkenny, well, I'd agree with you, but I work next to a Kilkenny woman and my sister married a Kilkenny man (she always was the charitable sort), so I can't publicly agree with you about Kilkenny and it's city status. But I won't disagree with you either ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Yeah, perhaps during WW2 maybe. But with Smart bombs and bunker busters I doubt a Metro north station is going to provide much protection.

    The rest is just nonsense. A small city like Washington DC? Washington is fecking massive. And exactly what strategic significance is there to the Irish Financial service centre?

    On two random asides our key airport in the event of a european war is knock. It can actually handle planes like Hercules and 747, and was built using USAF money.

    And during WW2, you actually had to Q up and buy a ticket on the underground,

    Just on a little side note, a C130 will take off and land on a proverbial post stamp, even a potholed one for that matter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Just on a little side note, a C130 will take off and land on a proverbial post stamp, even a potholed one for that matter.

    Also true, in hindsight this is a silly CT. I can't even trace the origin of when and where I heard it, I think, it must have been at a demo at Shannon in the run up the war*



    *Yes thats right I travelled to Shannon on more than one occasion to protest against the war. Or something my nefarious NWO/freemason handlers didn't explain it to me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Also true, in hindsight this is a silly CT. I can't even trace the origin of when and where I heard it, I think, it must have been at a demo at Shannon in the run up the war*



    *Yes thats right I travelled to Shannon on more than one occasion to protest against the war. Or something my nefarious NWO/freemason handlers didn't explain it to me.

    At least I'm consistent :) . I've been to Shannon, but it was only to protect the planes from anti-war protesters who wanted to attack them.

    One time, I met two nice American gentlemen in suits who gave me a sort of coin/medal thingy. They also invited me onto the plane to have some 'sodas and cookies'. Unfortunately I had to decline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    yekahs wrote: »
    One time, I met two nice American gentlemen in suits who gave me a sort of coin/medal thingy. They also invited me onto the plane to have some 'sodas and cookies'. Unfortunately I had to decline.

    Might have been an em... extraordinary... event. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    meglome wrote: »
    Might have been an em... extraordinary... event. ;)

    Thats the impression I got. It was only a small plane, not one of the normal jumbo jets that the troops come in on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    yekahs wrote: »
    Thats the impression I got. It was only a small plane, not one of the normal jumbo jets that the troops come in on.

    What's the correct reaction if you get on a plane like this and there are three blokes chained in the back while the boys are having tea and biscuits? I think pretend it's perfectly normal and get out of there fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Joshua Jones


    yekahs wrote: »
    At least I'm consistent :) . I've been to Shannon, but it was only to protect the planes from anti-war protesters who wanted to attack them.

    One time, I met two nice American gentlemen in suits who gave me a sort of coin/medal thingy. They also invited me onto the plane to have some 'sodas and cookies'. Unfortunately I had to decline.

    Attention!


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