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  • 14-11-2010 8:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭


    I work for the Public Service and over the past year I have found myself defending my work and the wage I earn from it in way too many thread. Now I don't want this to end up as anpther Public Sector bashing thread, hopwever, I know it will.

    Anyway I know this is going to annoy a lot of people, but I thought I would pout it out there. Like most of my fellow workers I went on strike for a day last November, and I supported it. It was my way of me expressing my beliefs about the health services in this country. I'm a front line health profession btw.

    Here is my point, when I get paid next Thurday and I will be down a day's pay; why you may ask? Because I wnet on strike last November, christ, one of the many complaints about the HSE is that we have too many admin staff. Well how many does it take to dock a day's pay from all its staff.

    I went on strike, I knew by doing so I would loose a day's money, but I didn't expect to have to wait a year for it to be docked. Does anyone who works in the HSE's admin/payroll section know why it took so long, it's hardly the most complex thing to do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    The Public Service is inefficient shocker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Merzbow


    Odysseus wrote: »
    I work for the Public Service and over the past year I have found myself defending my work and the wage I earn from it in way too many thread. Now I don't want this to end up as anpther Public Sector bashing thread, hopwever, I know it will.

    Anyway I know this is going to annoy a lot of people, but I thought I would pout it out there. Like most of my fellow workers I went on strike for a day last November, and I supported it. It was my way of me expressing my beliefs about the health services in this country. I'm a front line health profession btw.

    Here is my point, when I get paid next Thurday and I will be down a day's pay; why you may ask? Because I wnet on strike last November, christ, one of the many complaints about the HSE is that we have too many admin staff. Well how many does it take to dock a day's pay from all its staff.

    I went on strike, I knew by doing so I would loose a day's money, but I didn't expect to have to wait a year for it to be docked. Does anyone who works in the HSE's admin/payroll section know why it took so long, it's hardly the most complex thing to do.

    They were too busy cashing pay cheques + defending their right to time off work to cash pay cheques that no longer exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Mozoltov!


    You'll be down a days pay when you're paid next Thursday, 'cause you striked last year? I didn't know ye get paid yearly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭talla10


    I work in public service as well frontline (emergency services) and i cant stand the public service!!!Too many do too little work, pass the buck, take little/no responsibilty for their work and take way too many 'sick' days costing us billions!!

    I also know so many dedicated hard working employee's who are so embarrassed and humiliated at some of people's attitudes and behaviour!!Too many idiots give us all a terrible name and do not contribute anything. The quicker public service reform arrives the better!!but dont expect it anytime soon!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Does anyone who works in the HSE's admin/payroll section know why it took so long, it's hardly the most complex thing to do.

    Why use After Hours as the first port of call for an employer/employee payroll related question?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Anyway I know this is going to annoy a lot of people, but I thought I would pout it out there.

    odysseus: passive-aggressive trolling at your service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Redmal


    Why don't you ask the admin/payroll service where you work? Surely it's up to them to input your hours? Plus if any of them striked as well then they'd be best placed to get an answer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Odysseus wrote: »
    I'm a front line health profession btw.

    Why do people use that expression all the time these days?

    You work in a hospital, not in a war zone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Why do people use that expression all the time these days?

    You work in a hospital, not in a war zone.

    OK, I work in direct patient contact. That do you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Like most of my fellow workers I went on strike for a day last November, and I supported it.

    Translation: I went to Newry and bought cheap booze :D



    nah seriously I have no idea what the answer to your query is, I'm a public servant too and I didn't strike but I was contacted by HR about a week later to see if I had been on strike as they were trying to figure out who was getting docked. Says a lot really if they had no idea who was working and who was striking. rofl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Why do people use that expression all the time these days?

    You work in a hospital, not in a war zone.

    I friend of a friend said "i work at the front line" a few months ago, i said "i thought you work at the reception desk", she went ballistic and rattled on for 10 minutes about how she deals with the public and how many people complain to her etc.
    I let her prattle on and at the end i just said, "yeah them ba*tarding sick people" and wandered off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Why use After Hours as the first port of call for an employer/employee payroll related question?

    Because payroll don't answer phones, and a direct question to my line manager at a meeting on Friday didn't answer the question either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    *Grabs Popcorn*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    OP, you get paid on a regular basis, how i envy you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    *Grabs Popcorn*

    salted or sweet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Mozoltov!


    salted or sweet?
    Bitta' both. Some melted butter over them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Why do people use that expression all the time these days?

    You work in a hospital, not in a war zone.

    No a clinic actually, you know the type of people that most people on AH complain about, those with a particular taste for opiod like drugs. It highlights the difference between somebody who works with people who need care and help and those who have a nice office away from any patient who may have behavioural problems.

    As for those who work in a hospital, I was part of the critical incident who helped staff who had experienced a trauma due to violence in work, and hospitals has the highest call out rate. However, due to cut backs that service no longer exists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    This thread should be called "Do You Care?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    *Grabs Popcorn*

    Fcuk me it can't be that interesting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Fcuk me it can't be that interesting.

    It's not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    This thread should be called "Do You Care?"

    It will be interesting to see, I don't care too much, but I do remember people a lot of people stating they work in admin in various roles, so maybe I will get an answer, but yeah on a scale of 0-10 it's not going to go too far is it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Odysseus wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see, I don't care too much, but I do remember people a lot of people stating they work in admin in various roles, so maybe I will get an answer, but yeah on a scale of 0-10 it's not going to go too far is it.

    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Mozoltov!


    Odysseus wrote: »
    No a clinic actually, you know the type of people that most people on AH complain about, those with a particular taste for opiod like drugs. It highlights the difference between somebody who works with people who need care and help and those who have a nice office away from any patient who may have behavioural problems.

    As for those who work in a hospital, I was part of the critical incident who helped staff who had experienced a trauma due to violence in work, and hospitals has the highest call out rate. However, due to cut backs that service no longer exists.
    Are there anymore like you? Yano, the ones who stand loud and proud about the immense work they do and how amazingly difficult and difficultly amazing their job is but when the words "pay cut" come in, you all lose it and go ape and proclaim you aren't being paid enough as it is.

    Did anything actually come of that strike, or did you all just save the public sector some money by not turning up for work and those that did, had to do your share of work aswell as their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    It's not.

    But it is getting your attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Odysseus wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see, I don't care too much, but I do remember people a lot of people stating they work in admin in various roles, so maybe I will get an answer, but yeah on a scale of 0-10 it's not going to go too far is it.

    So you only posted it in AH to get to a wider audience?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Mozoltov!


    Odysseus wrote: »
    But it is getting your attention.
    Well, it is in AH. Just sayin'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Odysseus wrote: »
    But it is getting your attention.


    I'm on the edge of my seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Mozoltov!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Mozoltov! wrote: »
    Are there anymore like you? Yano, the ones who stand loud and proud about the immense work they do and how amazingly difficult and difficultly amazing their job is but when the words "pay cut" come in, you all lose it and go ape and proclaim you aren't being paid enough as it is.

    Did anything actually come of that strike, or did you all just save the public sector some money by not turning up for work and those that did, had to do your share of work aswell as their own.

    Would you not agree that hospital staff who are victims of violence during their work, deserve support from their employer? As for the money part I have stated in enough threads that if I want more money I earn it in the private sector.

    Edit: I just got a PM which seems to answer my question [don't know for certain, but it appears to make sense], so cheers for all the help


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    The strikes in the hospitals last year lead to this kind of thing happening...

    http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/jna0542l.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Mozoltov!


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Would you not agree that hospital staff who are victims of violence during their work, deserve support from their employer? As for the money part I have stated in enough threads that if I want more money I earn it in the private sector.

    Edit: I just got a PM which seems to answer my question [don't know for certain, but it appears to make sense], so cheers for all the help
    Would that not be part blaming their employer for someone being violent towards them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Mozoltov! wrote: »
    Would that not be part blaming their employer for someone being violent towards them?

    No but someone who works in a job which puts them at any level of risk which is above the norm should be able to avail of supports if they need them. The problem with the public service is half these supports are available and abused whilst the other half are sorely needed and nowhere to be seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Would you not agree that hospital staff who are victims of violence during their work, deserve support from their employer? As for the money part I have stated in enough threads that if I want more money I earn it in the private sector.

    Edit: I just got a PM which seems to answer my question [don't know for certain, but it appears to make sense], so cheers for all the help

    Well, that is a relief.


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