planning per for equine arena and entrance

corco2000

Hi, If I wanted to build an arena for horses do I need planning do you know? If so can somebody tell me where I can get stipulations on size etc onlime?
Also, if I breakan entrance onto public road to get sand and other materilas onto this site do I need planning? If I didnt apply for planning and 'just' broke entrance/ditch what would I expect to face from planning peoples if they found out?

Poor Uncle Tom

corco2000 wrote: »

Hi, If I wanted to build an arena for horses do I need planning do you know? If so can somebody tell me where I can get stipulations on size etc onlime?

From Class 10 of Agricultural Structures
CLASS 10

The erection of an unroofed fenced area for the exercising or training of horses or ponies, together with a drainage bed or soft surface material to provide an all-weather surface.
1. No such structure shall be used for any purpose other than the exercising or training of horses or ponies.
2. No such area shall be used for the staging of public events.
3. No such structure shall be situated within 10 metres of any public road, and no entrance to such area shall be directly off any public road.
4. The height of any such structure shall not exceed 2 metres.

corco2000 wrote: »

Also, if I breakan entrance onto public road to get sand and other materilas onto this site do I need planning?

Yes you need planning permission for an entrance.

corco2000 wrote: »

If I didnt apply for planning and 'just' broke entrance/ditch what would I expect to face from planning peoples if they found out?

Please read the charter.

mickdw

When you say arena - is this going to be used for events where public might be visiting the premises such as horse riding lessons etc?

corco2000

Thank you for the replies. No it is only a small area of lets say 20m x 20m which is beside the house. There is a public road alongside it. 10m from the road could be a problem as I will loose maybe 6m off this.Mmmmm could I maybe put up an electric temporary fence which would be 10m from road when horses are unattended and then when horses are been ridden take this down, and ride all the way upto roadside?
If I was to use this space for other livestock like pigs do I need planning or as a 'yard' to park trailers. Whats the difference?

rayjdav

corco2000 wrote: »

If I was to use this space for other livestock like pigs do I need planning or as a 'yard' to park trailers. Whats the difference?

Class 7 of Exempted Development - Rural: deals with Pigs:D:D (Seriously, it does)
Just click on Poor Uncle Toms link and scroll down to Class 7 Agricultural Exemptions

corco2000

Rayjdav, thank you for that. Class 7 refers to a 'roofed structure'. What I am asking is, if I used this sand arena to keep pigs or park a trailer on does it have to be 10m from the road for example? the reason I ask this, is if i have an area of an arena 10m from the road I am not allowed to exercise a horse on Id hate to see it been wasted!
I was also asking if I could use a temporary fence 10m from road and take this down everytime I ride horse. I take it, its 10m from road so horse does bolt on to road when exercised. So I'd only really have the fence there is if I used this area for housing the horses there in winter to save grass getting cut up during bad weather! As they would be unoccupied by me.

Uncle Tom, about the conseqeunces for breaking entrance without PP where on the charter is that, I cant find. Thanks again for info what I was looking for.

Poor Uncle Tom

corco2000 wrote: »

If I didnt apply for planning and 'just' broke entrance/ditch what would I expect to face from planning peoples if they found out?

corco2000 wrote: »

10m from the road could be a problem as I will loose maybe 6m off this.Mmmmm could I maybe put up an electric temporary fence which would be 10m from road when horses are unattended and then when horses are been ridden take this down, and ride all the way upto roadside?

The following is taken from the forum charter:

6.1 Any thread/post that is looking for ways to get around the planning process, or building regulations, or any other statutory legislation, or advising somebody to ignore these legislations and regulations, will be deleted and the poster will be banned indefinitely.

The two quotes above are clearly asking if you can get around the planning process. You can not discuss that here. If that is not clear to you now, please PM me any quearies you may have regarding the charter.

corco2000 wrote: »

I was also asking if I could use a temporary fence 10m from road and take this down everytime I ride horse. I take it, its 10m from road so horse does bolt on to road when exercised. So I'd only really have the fence there is if I used this area for housing the horses there in winter to save grass getting cut up during bad weather! As they would be unoccupied by me.

Do not push this line any further or you will be banned.

corco2000 wrote: »

Uncle Tom, about the conseqeunces for breaking entrance without PP where on the charter is that, I cant find. Thanks again for info what I was looking for.

Please see above.

muffler

corco2000 wrote: »

Rayjdav, thank you for that. Class 7 refers to a 'roofed structure'. What I am asking is, if I used this sand arena to keep pigs or park a trailer on does it have to be 10m from the road for example? the reason I ask this, is if i have an area of an arena 10m from the road I am not allowed to exercise a horse on Id hate to see it been wasted!
I was also asking if I could use a temporary fence 10m from road and take this down everytime I ride horse. I take it, its 10m from road so horse does bolt on to road when exercised. So I'd only really have the fence there is if I used this area for housing the horses there in winter to save grass getting cut up during bad weather! As they would be unoccupied by me.

Uncle Tom, about the conseqeunces for breaking entrance without PP where on the charter is that, I cant find. Thanks again for info what I was looking for.

The 10 metres only applies to a structure and not a fence.
Edit: Sorry, I didnt read the post correctly and thought you were referring to a building.

This is the part of the forum charter you need to keep in mind in order to maintain your ability to post here

6.1 Any thread/post that is looking for ways to get around the planning process, or building regulations, or any other statutory legislation, or advising somebody to ignore these legislations and regulations, will be deleted and the poster will be banned indefinitely.

corco2000

muffler, thank you. is an arena termed 'structure' for this purpose then.? So can I run my arena boundry fence less than 10m from road?

muffler

Apologies, I misread your original post. Please see my edit above.

Poor Uncle Tom

corco2000 wrote: »

muffler, thank you. is an arena termed 'structure' for this purpose then.? So can I run my arena boundry fence less than 10m from road?

Please see point No.3 of post No.2 above, ie., you can not run your arena boundry fence (or any part of the arena including the sand base) less than 10m to the public road.

corco2000

muffler, no you have brought up a good point. That class refers to 'area' and 'structure'. Im confused is the area the part within the structure with the sand in it, so I CAN have sand all the way to boundry of road? But would a fence be a 'structure'.
the area doesnt have to be 10m from road but structure does?

Poor Uncle Tom

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