New TV only picking up 5 channels

steven22

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, i bought a new Cello dvd combi the other day for my bedroom which I have the basic ntl pipe already, I replaced this telly with another smaller combi which I had been getting around 15 channels on but this new telly seems to be only picking up

RTE1
City Channel
Setanta
BBC1
Living TV

Could it be the TV, The specs on the side of the box are

26" 16:9 widescreen lcd tv
10 page memory teletext
Pal I, secam, BG, DK Multi standard tv system
Max resolution 1366 x 768
Contrast ratio :1000 brightness :500
Integrated digital freeview channels
7 day EPG
Program now and next display
Fast channel display
Fast channel search
Favourite channel search
Favourite channelcollection and edit
Integrated slot in dvd
Plays dvd/cd/cd-r/cd-rw/picture cd
HDTV 1080i 720p
Nicam stereo
Separate bass, treble, balance controls
240 minute sleep timer
Connections : aidio, pc analogue, pc stereo, scart, s-video
Wall mountable (not inc)
Remote control and table stand inc
Ac 100-240v
Common interface

Minstrel27

You are viewing the digital tuner. Change it to the analogue tuner and you will get the 15 channels again.

cgarvey

Dunno what Minstrel is on about, you can't receive the NTL/UPC digital channels without a decoder.

To receive all the analogue channels, you'll need to have VHF I, VHF III and UHF tuner support (throw in Hyperband support as well, just to further confuse the issue). If it's a UK-targeted TV, it's quite possible it only has a UHF tuner (and so you're missing out on the channels on the other frequencies). I don't have an up to date channel frequency list for NTL, but my first guess is that's the issue anyway.

Kensington

Make sure the TV is not set to the UK.
If there is no Ireland option, choose Other.
If it asks you to scan for analogue or digital, choose analogue.

UK does not use the VHF frequency band, which is where UPC broadcast the vast majority of their analogue channels. Setting "UK" on most TVs disables scanning in the VHF region. Setting Other will generally have the TV scan the entire television band so should pick them up.

cgarvey wrote:

Dunno what Minstrel is on about, you can't receive the NTL/UPC digital channels without a decoder.

A few TVs are appearing on the market with a DVB-C digital tuner built-in. Some of the digital channels are broadcast without encryption so can be received by TVs with a DVB-C tuner.

steven22

cgarvey wrote: »

Dunno what Minstrel is on about, you can't receive the NTL/UPC digital channels without a decoder.

To receive all the analogue channels, you'll need to have VHF I, VHF III and UHF tuner support (throw in Hyperband support as well, just to further confuse the issue). If it's a UK-targeted TV, it's quite possible it only has a UHF tuner (and so you're missing out on the channels on the other frequencies). I don't have an up to date channel frequency list for NTL, but my first guess is that's the issue anyway.

I think this is the problem, the telly was half price so maybe that was the reason it was so cheap. Will I be able to get a Decoder for it or is it just useless ?

On the country selection all is there is UK, Luxembou, Portugal, Australia, Italy and a few other Eastern EU countries but not Ireland. Knew it was too good to be true!

Would it even work if I was to get another an ntl box as multi room viewing? havent got around to checking it on the other telly, im assuming no ?

dunworth1

steven22 wrote: »

I think this is the problem, the telly was half price so maybe that was the reason it was so cheap. Will I be able to get a Decoder for it or is it just useless ?

On the country selection all is there is UK, Luxembou, Portugal, Australia, Italy and a few other Eastern EU countries but not Ireland. Knew it was too good to be true!

Would it even work if I was to get another an ntl box as multi room viewing? havent got around to checking it on the other telly, im assuming no ?

yes it will work if you get another box

because the box itself does all the decoding

Manc-Red

cgarvey wrote: »

Dunno what Minstrel is on about, you can't receive the NTL/UPC digital channels without a decoder..

I have a Sony that suggests otherwise.

Those channels the op said he was getting are not encrypted.

GerardKeating

cgarvey wrote: »

Dunno what Minstrel is on about, you can't receive the NTL/UPC digital channels without a decoder.

Actually you can, if the TV tune support it, most (but not all) of the digital Chanel's are encrypted, which is why the OP might be getting a few.

cgarvey wrote: »

To receive all the analogue channels, you'll need to have VHF I, VHF III and UHF tuner support (throw in Hyperband support as well, just to further confuse the issue). If it's a UK-targeted TV, it's quite possible it only has a UHF tuner (and so you're missing out on the channels on the other frequencies). I don't have an up to date channel frequency list for NTL, but my first guess is that's the issue anyway.

Also possible.

Minstrel27

cgarvey wrote: »

Dunno what Minstrel is on about, you can't receive the NTL/UPC digital channels without a decoder.

Any tv with a DVB-C tuner will receive the channels mentioned by the OP.

You really shouldn't dismiss something if you don't know what you are talking about.

steven22

Thanks everyone for their input, going to go with multi room with upc for 5 euro extra a month which will get me the extra channels and the recording function.

Although a family member bought the same TV, could someone point me in the direction of a cheap decoder which will work to get the 15 channels ?