Foot locks when opponent has back.

darced

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Pontificatus

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Its a straight foot lock so should be legal from blue. No-one should get caught by it though

r_obric

i did it at a comp (blue belt) and was told by a the ref that if the guy had tapped because of it i would have been dq'd.

i think its an ankle lock not a straight foot lock.

darced

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Shane Fitz

Pontificatus wrote: »

Its a straight foot lock so should be legal from blue. No-one should get caught by it though

firstly, how can it be a straight foot lock, the knee is obviously bent? and the pressure is on the ankle side, not the achilles, as it would in a "straight foot lock"
however to answer the question, it is legal from blue belt
but i do agree that nobody should be caught with it
as an aside to the origional question, if the ankles are crossed it does not score 4 point for back control, from the IBJJF rules
"the points will not be awarded if both heels are not properly positioned on the inner part of the adversary’s thighs"

EnjoyChoke

Legal.

r_obric

i dont think it is legal for blue belt its not a straight foot lock.

darced

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Doug Cartel

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No it's never safe, regardless of what rules are in place. I once broke a toe when I crossed my ankles on a spazzy rugby player who suddenly started trashing and rolling.

r_obric

darced wrote: »

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i was on the course and dont remember it coming up, my understanding of it is that its illegal (in GI) at blue belt therefore also at white, it puts pressure on the ankle and only the straight foot lock (achilles) is allowed at that level, so while that exact thing wasnt covered, what was covered is what is allowed

if you wanna know for sure then email the technical director, his contact details are online, i think on the ibjjf site, or post the question on the efnsports forum, thay have a section for rules...

EnjoyChoke

Pontificatus wrote: »

So, two qualified refs and two different answers :rolleyes:

Don't be a knob.

Liam_B

Any of the new refs have a definite answer for this?

This is the definite answer....

This position is considered a straight foot lock. Therefore ,through All level belts this position is allowed.

r_obric

back into my box then....

dunkamania

It can mimic the pressure from an achilles lock, but as your opponent struggles to get out of it can turn into an inverted heel hook, which is always fun.