slippery\hazardous conditions light always on VW golf

purerandom

hi,
the slippery surface\hazardous road conditions warning light is always on my 06 volkswagen golf for the past week now.
I assume its a fuse or something, but have no idea how to tackle\approach this issue.
can anyone give me some advice?
would like to learn how to do it myself so that i dont need to call a mechanic.
could the light be constantly on for another reason maybe?

Mr Benevolent

You mean the electronic stability/traction control light?

purerandom

sorry, i was not sure of the correct name for it. thats the one.
after looking it up i have attached the image.
Any ideas how to sort it?

CiniO

Turn your ESP back on.

Anan1

It's most likely a sensor, you'll need to bring it to someone with VW diagnostics.

Anan1

CiniO wrote: »

Turn your ESP back on.

It couldn't be, could it?:D

Gary ITR

Anan1 wrote: »

It couldn't be, could it?:D

It automatically resets when the car is switched off so I doubt it

coylemj

Onkle wrote: »

It automatically resets when the car is switched off so I doubt it

+1, I just checked my 07 Golf GT. Switched ESP off so the warning light came on. I then turned off the ignition and removed the key, put the key back in and turned on the ignition, the ESP light came on again briefly and then switched off.

The only other explanation that does not involve a fault in the car electronics is if he's driving on bald tyres and the car can't get traction, that also causes the light to come on but it wouldn't stay on permanently, it would flicker on and off as happens with me when driving on icy roads.

tossy

Onkle wrote: »

It automatically resets when the car is switched off so I doubt it

Exactly.

Could be on for a few reasons OP it could be a sensor,also when some VAG cars go into limp mode the ESP light comes on,is the car driving ok?

I would get it scanned and go from there.

Bing_IRL

You'll need to get the car scanned. Dealer or enthusiast will sort you out!

dub7_2010

Are your brake lights working?

Most common reason the ESP light comes on is for a faulty brake light switch.

Nonoperational

Doesn't the golf have a weak point in the ABS pump or control module that goes and causes a fault light to come on. €1000+ fix at a dealer or a bit less if you send the pump off to be reconditioned. If you google it it's a huge issue certain VWs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/caradvice/honestjohn/7053551/VW-Golf-ABS-failure.html

Hopefully it's something simplier though because this is a horribly expensive problem and the car won't pass an NCT without it fixed.

Rockery Woman

Hi I have a 07 Golf. There is a switch that has ASR on it,in front of the gearstick behind the ashtray, someone could have flicked it off. My friend was messing with it one day and switched it off said its Traction Control or something - try pressing that switch. Sorry I am not very technical Hope I helped though!

dub7_2010

gpf101 wrote: »

Doesn't the golf have a weak point in the ABS pump or control module that goes and causes a fault light to come on. €1000+ fix at a dealer or a bit less if you send the pump off to be reconditioned.

Hopefully it's something simplier!

ABS/EDL control unit is not a problem on the Golf but very common on the Touran. Most likely it is the brake light switch.

Nonoperational

dub7_2010 wrote: »

ABS/EDL control unit is not a problem on the Golf but very common on the Touran. Most likely it is the brake light switch.

I thought I saw a few reports of it in golfs too? Take a look at this link from the english company that refurb them:

http://www.ecutesting.com/vw_golf_touran_abs_pump_module.html

I'm not saying this is the OPs problem by the way just throwing up a possibility! Dont't want to scare anyone...

dub7_2010

gpf101 wrote: »

I thought I saw a few reports of it in golfs too? Take a look at this link from the english company that refurb them:

http://www.ecutesting.com/vw_golf_touran_abs_pump_module.html

I'm not saying this is the OPs problem by the way just throwing up a possibility! Dont't want to scare anyone...

Its possible but not as common on Golf as reported online. Many people copy and paste from other forums giving inaccurate info. As i said it IS a problem on the Touran.

BTW I work at a VW dealership

tossy

dub7_2010 wrote: »

BTW I work at a VW dealership

In my experience 95% of people i know who work at VW dealerships are the worst source for information not saying this is the case here.

dub7_2010

tossy wrote: »

In my experience 95% of people i know who work at VW dealerships are the worst source for information not saying this is the case here.

And i mine most customers are too sceptical of dealers but usually end up returning after wasting big money by getting a friend to do the work.

bigroad

Traction controll light staying on can be a number of things.A faulty wheel sensor is a common problem .to find this the car must be plugged into a diagnostic computer .dealer or non dealer does not matter.This might affect your abs .Try wheelspinning the car to see if the traction controll is working .As i said it could be a number of things so its best to get a diagnostic check.

tossy

dub7_2010 wrote: »

And i mine most customers are too sceptical of dealers but usually end up returning after wasting big money by getting a friend to do the work.

Well there is a difference between getting a friend to do the work and a competent independent,but when you here stories of VW/Audi part departments having never ordered in or sold haldex oil or not having the haldex removal tool as part of their arsenal you get a little worried,in balance i have heard stories of lads turning theri noses up at dealers and getting friends to do jobs only to return to the dealer again tail between legs.

Sorry for taking the thread off topic.

ION08

Traction control light(asr) light staying on could also mean it's an issue with the mass air flow unit.

Obvious question to ask; Does the car drive any differently? Less smooth etc?

purerandom

hi folks,
i got a mate to give me his diagnostic tool so i can suss it out.
the error came up under brakes and it was:-"01435 brake pressure sensor 1 4201"
A mate reckons it is the ABS pump and will cost a fortune to fix.
I see the repsonse above also and read the link. typical my luck that this is prob the problem, disaster!
parting with 1000 euro before xmas....agghhhhhh!
as car is 4 yrs old, i wonder have a vw warranty? is it possible that this is covered by VW?

_Kaiser_

purerandom wrote: »

hi folks,
i got a mate to give me his diagnostic tool so i can suss it out.
the error came up under brakes and it was:-"01435 brake pressure sensor 1 4201"
A mate reckons it is the ABS pump and will cost a fortune to fix.
I see the repsonse above also and read the link. typical my luck that this is prob the problem, disaster!
parting with 1000 euro before xmas....agghhhhhh!
as car is 4 yrs old, i wonder have a vw warranty? is it possible that this is covered by VW?

Well in my experience with VW (also have a 06 - Passat in my case) they won't cover anything because of the age of the car - although you can certainly waste €100 taking it to a dealer for a diags scan and getting the report sent in if you like :rolleyes:

I rang about the well published (and expensive!!) DMF failure issue and mentioned as well the equally well-known injector faults on the early (05-08) Passats that cause all power to be instantly lost (imagine if it happened on a motorway), but they were refusing to even acknowledge either as an issue despite lots of reports from other owners online.

In the end I had to pay for the DMF replacement myself (€1100-ish up North) and I'm hoping the injectors don't start acting up as €800 a pop is not what I'd need at the moment!!

Nonoperational

It's worth a try looking for goodwill from VW but it may not me the pump. It could be a switch too. Read this http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01435 the last thing u want is to unnecessarily replace the abs pump.

VeVeX

dub7_2010 wrote: »

ABS/EDL control unit is not a problem on the Golf but very common on the Touran. Most likely it is the brake light switch.

dub7_2010 wrote: »

Its possible but not as common on Golf as reported online. Many people copy and paste from other forums giving inaccurate info. As i said it IS a problem on the Touran.

BTW I work at a VW dealership

:rolleyes:

What platform is the Touran built on?

To give you a clue goto etka in your parts dept and find the abs (ESP) control unit part number 1K0 614 517K. See what other models the Touran shares that abs control unit with.

Nonoperational

I figured there was no point in pointing that out to someone that works in a VW dealership... Hopefully it's far away from parts and service!

They did do goodwill on an aircon compressor for me on a 2006 golf so it's worth a shot.

amg-slurp

VW parts guy here. Although some people on here dont trust us i can see?

The ABS unit in a Golf, is the same as Touran, A3, Caddy and so on.
(there are variations on Golfs but basically the same unit as VeVex mentioned.

The unit does give trouble, theres a sensor that goes.
You used to have to replace the full unit at a cost of 1000 or so, but now theres a reapair kit from VW that should do. We have not fitted one ourselves yet, as it was only released in the past few weeks.

There are places that can repair these units but this new VW part will work out far cheaper.
Also we sent one unit to be repaired for a customer who didnt want to pay for a new unit.....and had to wait 4 weeks before we got a new unit that worked.
First time we got it back, fitted it and it didnt work. So sent back again and eventually got it right. So lots of labour, courier charges and hassle. New unit would have been cheaper!!

Nonoperational

Never said I didn't trust you!...That's actually fantastic news re the repair kit. Thanks for letting us know.

amg-slurp

gpf101 wrote: »

Never said I didn't trust you!...That's actually fantastic news re the repair kit. Thanks for letting us know.

No problem. As i said, we havnt fitted one yet, but hopefully will soon!

Any other VW questions, send em my way!

dub7_2010

VeVeX wrote: »

:rolleyes:

What platform is the Touran built on?

To give you a clue goto etka in your parts dept and find the abs (ESP) control unit part number 1K0 614 517K. See what other models the Touran shares that abs control unit with.

???

I never said or suggested that they were not the same part number. I said its not very common with the Golf. These units have a much higher failure rate on the Touran than the Golf.
Would you not agree with this?

I cant be certain but i suspect they may be sourced from a different production plant. As with all parts several suppliers are used. Many parts are the same across the VW group brands but some are more reliable than others.

If you took the time to read my post you would see that i agreed it was possible that the ABS unit was at fault but was more likely a brake light switch. I simply offered advice which could have helped the OP avoid a trip to the dealer by checking if the brake lights were working. The simple things should be checked before suggesting more costly repairs or diagnostic.

BTW im not here to defend VWGI or their products. Criticise them all you want i dont care I just happen to work at dealer. It just bugs me when people post inaccurate info or only want to bad-mouth a dealer as this does nothing to help the original posters.

Dont forget, the people here that work in dealerships can offer a lot of info on part numbers, diagnostics, warranty etc. and maybe even you with all your wisdom might need their help some day