Intra

testingtesting

Hey all.

Just checking if anyone has had a similar experience to this.

I've been offered a job, all I have to do is sign the contract and I'm good to go. Problem is I'm not happy with the contract.

I'm pretty confident I could find a placement for myself elsewhere. I believe you're not meant to, but I presume people have done it before.

Could I do this? Or do you have any other advice?

Cheers,

<insert clever alias>

irish_boy90

accept the job or intra will be pretty angry with you.
Goodluck.

Steef

testingtesting wrote: »

Hey all.

Just checking if anyone has had a similar experience to this.

I've been offered a job, all I have to do is sign the contract and I'm good to go. Problem is I'm not happy with the contract.

I'm pretty confident I could find a placement for myself elsewhere. I believe you're not meant to, but I presume people have done it before.

Could I do this? Or do you have any other advice?

Cheers,

<insert clever alias>

If you have a valid reason as to why you are unhappy with the placement then arrange an appointment with the Intra office and have a chat with them about it, it cant do any harm, but accept that there decision is final on the matter. If your reasons are related to not liking the pay/location/duration of the placement then they will probably say tough luck. If a student turns down an offer it kinda bad for Intra's reputation with employers.

rory2010

could some1 tell me how to post a thread on this site?

Attol

rory2010 wrote: »

could some1 tell me how to post a thread on this site?

Hi. Just click the "New Thread" button the the lefthand side. It's above the topics in the main forum view.

WRT Intra : I thought that you failed Intra if you turned down a job you were offered. The Intra office would be the best place to contact for accurate information though.

Steef

Attol wrote: »

Hi. Just click the "New Thread" button the the lefthand side. It's above the topics in the main forum view.

WRT Intra : I thought that you failed Intra if you turned down a job you were offered. The Intra office would be the best place to contact for accurate information though.

I dont think you would fail it, even so it would be risk to do and you would be guarantee to have to do the project instead. But what I said is if you have a problem with it its best to contact the office and have a meeting with them just to talk it over and see if there is anything they can do for you. There is no harm in trying but dont turn down the offer without having talk to Intra first, you will know then where you stand.

markpb

Attol wrote: »

WRT Intra : I thought that you failed Intra if you turned down a job you were offered. The Intra office would be the best place to contact for accurate information though.

I don't think they'd fail you but they definitely said to us that we had to tell them *before* the process started if we wanted to find our own jobs.

StiLL-TrAiNinG

markpb wrote: »

I don't think they'd fail you but they definitely said to us that we had to tell them *before* the process started if we wanted to find our own jobs.

I don't think that you have to. From what I remember last year, we were told to send a "wish list" of companies we'd like to work for and they would try to contact the companies to get them involved with INTRA (if they hadn't/weren't already).

You could just go an source a job and then tell them about it and as long as it fit the requirements for your course everything was fine, or at least that was my understanding of it.

Katniss everMean

INTRA are very strict with somethings. I did my INTRA two years ago and was told I must accept a job I was offered once it was located in Ireland. You can't say the location, pay or length of time is crap, they won't listen. They feel the employers they have got are good enough for your placement.

I know a guy who was suspended from INTRA as he messed up an interview on purpose and the employer knew it. This was for 2 weeks I think, but that meant missing two weeks of job interviewing and maybe missing out on a very good placement.

I agree with the others, go ask INTRA, but I wouldn't get your hopes up Also if you haven't already started to look for a job elsewhere / have a job elsewhere I would think twice about turning down a job, so many people won't be able to get one at all and will be stuck with a project.

manlad

Just on the subject on intra. I think its only beneficial if you have never worked in a 9 to 5 environment before. A lot of people in my class this year got jobs that have nothing to do with our degree(marketing). One guy is in an accountants being taught auditing. Another is answering a phone in Alliance and passing it on to sales. Intra got them the interviews and told them they had to accept the offers. Its a bit flawed if you look at it that way

lithiumoxide

I got my own job for INTRA, so didn't have to go through much of the process. From what I remember, my placement was pretty much guaranteed early on in third year, so INTRA were fine with it.

I think I was the only one in my class to get my own job, and I loved it - it was entirely relevant to my course. Others went through the INTRA process and ended up doing jobs they didn't want or internal projects.

irish_boy90

manlad wrote: »

Just on the subject on intra. I think its only beneficial if you have never worked in a 9 to 5 environment before. A lot of people in my class this year got jobs that have nothing to do with our degree(marketing). One guy is in an accountants being taught auditing. Another is answering a phone in Alliance and passing it on to sales. Intra got them the interviews and told them they had to accept the offers. Its a bit flawed if you look at it that way

I just looked at the job spec and only applied for jobs that would be relevant. there were a few that made me laugh. You can never be sure though, just try to avoid the ones that don't look right. Hopefully after they grill you with coding questions in the interviews they at least make us code.
(am a Ca so that bit wont apply to some, should to most here though)

--LOS--

irish_boy90 wrote: »

(am a Ca so that bit wont apply to some, should to most here though)

The rest of us know how to use d'internet too :P

wrt intra I think it's pretty set in that if you apply for a position and are offered it, you must accept it. Luckily I had the option of doing a fun field trip for my intra.

Yukina

If you didn't want the job why did you apply for it?? If you turn down the offer you've been given, INTRA have the right to refuse to let you apply for other jobs not to mention the way it reflects on the company that has chosen to employ you. They could just as easily turn around and refuse to offer a placement in DCU ever again, which is extremely unfair on anyone else that would have enjoyed the placement.

I'm sorry but you applied for it...

as the saying goes, you made your bed now lie in it...

Just be grateful you got an intra placement, many of us have yet to get an interview not to mind a job...

Katniss everMean

Yukina wrote: »

If you didn't want the job why did you apply for it?? If you turn down the offer you've been given, INTRA have the right to refuse to let you apply for other jobs not to mention the way it reflects on the company that has chosen to employ you. They could just as easily turn around and refuse to offer a placement in DCU ever again, which is extremely unfair on anyone else that would have enjoyed the placement.

I'm sorry but you applied for it...

as the saying goes, you made your bed now lie in it...

Just be grateful you got an intra placement, many of us have yet to get an interview not to mind a job...

INTRA will sign you up for extra jobs if you haven't picked enough, they will also do this if you are waiting a long time for an interview and finally just for the fun of it...

I had applied for 6 jobs out of 20, interviews had not even started, and they signed me up for 2 more. One was way out side of Dublin, and the area it was in you really need a car for access, I got an interview for that job :S thankfully I interviewed for a job I really wanted the day before and got it. If I hadn't though, I could have ended up in a job I did not apply for or want, this is the INTRA system...

irish_boy90

Angelkat7 wrote: »

INTRA will sign you up for extra jobs if you haven't picked enough, they will also do this if you are waiting a long time for an interview and finally just for the fun of it...

I had applied for 6 jobs out of 20, interviews had not even started, and they signed me up for 2 more. One was way out side of Dublin, and the area it was in you really need a car for access, I got an interview for that job :S thankfully I interviewed for a job I really wanted the day before and got it. If I hadn't though, I could have ended up in a job I did not apply for or want, this is the INTRA system...

I assume not many applied for it and intra needed to give the company some students, so they take the ones who apply to the least amount.
Unfair but intra do want to try and keep the companies happy at all costs.

I remember they gave me an interview the day before my third year project was due, so I went and sabotaged it. Sounded like a sh!t job anyway.

isoSaf

Whats the actual problem with the job?

rosmoke

@testingtesting any update on this ? Is it possible to accept other offer?

Yukina

You can only accept another offer if your first offer is for an unpaid placement.