PAYE & Self Employed...can this be done?

Dawayoh

How does a PAYE worker declare extra earnings?
Can this be done without getting a C2.

To clarify, I was made redundant this year and got JSB for 2 months.
I then got work with a colleague for 2 months on a project with them, as PAYE.
This has just finished and now they have enough work to keep me going 2/3 days a week.
Another company has asked me to work 2/3 days a week also, however they want to pay me by check and let me sort out the tax.
This seems to be the way most companies in my field want to operate now.

My main concern is that I'll become self employed and the work will vanish leaving me without any benefits. I'm reading conflicting information everywhere so any clarity on this would be appreciated.

Dawayoh

Anyone?
There must be somebody in this situation, please help if you can.

Batiste

You can only earn up to so much on top of the work u already do,without getting any penalties if found out..That's all i know on the matter

garancafan

Suggest you contact the Revenue Commissioners.

nompere

Additional earnings which aren't within the PAYE system go on page 5 of a Form 12. Form 12 is the normal PAYE taxpayer's return form. Any additional earnings must be returned despite Batiste's optimistic, but wrong, comment.

You'll find a Form 12 on this page: http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/tax-return-forms.html

If you earn income which isn't within PAYE then you are self-employed in tax terms. Whether you are actually employed and the person paying you is in breach of his obligations isn't your problem.

If you and he are in the construction business - and that is why you are asking about form C2 - then you both need real help which you are unlikely to get here.

Dawayoh

Batiste, Don't think you can earn anything with out declaring somehow mate....

garancafan, yep, its on my to do list, I just want to try to get some advice and more background knowledge before I do.

nompere, thanks for that.
Care to expand on your comments
"Whether you are actually employed and the person paying you is in breach of his obligations isn't your problem."
Are you saying that if I'm not registered for tax then the employer must sort out the prsi etc regardless.....can I just lodge the check and forget about it? };>

"If you and he are in the construction business - and that is why you are asking about form C2 - then you both need real help which you are unlikely to get here."

Theres no need to be arsey, I'm just trying to learn how to fend for myself here.......what do you mean by this?

Cornabuille

Dawayoh wrote: »

How does a PAYE worker declare extra earnings?
Can this be done without getting a C2.

To clarify, I was made redundant this year and got JSB for 2 months.
I then got work with a colleague for 2 months on a project with them, as PAYE.
This has just finished and now they have enough work to keep me going 2/3 days a week.
Another company has asked me to work 2/3 days a week also, however they want to pay me by check and let me sort out the tax.
This seems to be the way most companies in my field want to operate now.

My main concern is that I'll become self employed and the work will vanish leaving me without any benefits. I'm reading conflicting information everywhere so any clarity on this would be appreciated.

Hi there

This is the first time for me to post anything on this site. So you are my first boards.ie person I've ever communicated with here. Aren't you lucky!

To reply to your query and if it's any help. I'm a part-time PAYE worker and I have rental income. I declare all my income and it works out in my favour becase, if I did NO PAYE work, I would then be liable for PRSI, which this year would have mounted to €250 even tho I would not nec benefit from any health care. So by merely working a few hours in the year I'm no longer liable for this PRSI. So that's worth knowing.
Hope this info helps you

Cornabuille

Dawayoh

Thats interesting and something I'll look into.
I wonder if there is a difference between rental income and payment for services?
I'm going to try to get into the revenue offices shortly and hopefully they will be able to set me right.

Cornabuille

Dawayoh wrote: »

Thats interesting and something I'll look into.
I wonder if there is a difference between rental income and payment for services?
I'm going to try to get into the revenue offices shortly and hopefully they will be able to set me right.

Hi there

Thanks for replying to my thread and glad to read that you found my info useful. I believe that this does not just partain to rental income but to all self-employment work. Nowever, I'd imagine that there must be a cut-off point whereby you cannot just do a couple of hours in PAYE work just to avoid the PRSI. I don't know. If you do get more info on this point could you please let me know. I may also go into their offices and find out for myself.

Best of luck with it anyway!:)