Eircom's new Satellite Broadband offering

yuloni

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watty

It's likely either acting as Sales for Bentley Walker, Digiweb or Satellite Broadband Ireland.

Queen Maeve

Hi I'm new to this site. I am looking for some help with choosing the best deal for broadband/telephone as I am just about to move house. Would appreciate any guidance. Not a techie!:rolleyes:

yuloni

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watty

No.
There is very little with a good Irish footprint other than IS-907 (no space left) or Astra 2D (expensive and no space). Everything else is really a mainland Europe Footprint or old and needing monster dishes. Tooway via Hotbird 13E is probably better than Astra2Connect on 23.5E or the services on 39E or 33E.

There will be a big jump in capacity with a real Irish dedicated spot via Ka-Sat @ 9E in spring. Using Tooway. I guess eircom wants in on that party. Launcher currently getting bolted together for late December Launch... Eutelsat & Viasat biting nails etc.

eircom has re-sold other resellers satellite for years. One of whom went bust leave eircom's "customers" with no service.

Also with Satellite you maybe want hosting. eircom have no serious hosting products.

eircom are a failed ex-incumbent, debt laden, asset stripped POTS & DSL company. They never understood even how to sell ISDN features. They have been run into the ground since privatisation by leveraged buyout carpet blagards. Their current strategy is to cannibalise their own fixed line business via Meteor and current bizarre rebranding of the resold Meteor (which they 100% own) via eircom mobile as eMobile.

I'm not sure why they bother to sell VSAT at all this last 6 years...

watty

Queen Maeve wrote: »

Hi I'm new to this site. I am looking for some help with choosing the best deal for broadband/telephone as I am just about to move house. Would appreciate any guidance. Not a techie!:rolleyes:

This is a bad choice of thread. Start a new one here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=259

yuloni

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watty

The guy that ran Mediasat rented/leasted/bought the moth balled Elfordstown Earth station from Eircom. Not been used in years.
http://www.nationalspacecentre.eu/

The big monster C band Dish is unlikely ever to be used. It should be offered out to Amatuer Radio and Amateur Astronomers. No-one else has a use for it. They have two Ka-Band earth station dishs, so may get/have Eutelsat/Viasat contract as one of the Ka-Sat Earth Stations.

yuloni

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watty

Tooway on Ka-Sat should be about 790ms (stable) to Irish Addresses. Add on what ever the regular delay from INEX is...

I don't know how a private company with ZERO State connection managed to "blag" the Name "National Space Centre"!
see also http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/mediasatellite-crashes-into-liquidation-with-losses-of-e4m-1324097.html

Boards thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055043728&highlight=elfordstown
20-01-2007 to 24-10-2010

Many pictures... Not just Elfordstown.

yuloni

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watty

I think Digiweb sells Satlynx and other Buisness systems. Or did. There may be no capacity left and in any case in much of Ireland you might need a 1.2m dish. Certainly at one stage they manage at least 3 different systems. At least one has fibre from Germany via London to Dublin, so not much worse latency than an Irish Earth Station.

Because of how Tooway works on Ka-Sat, it can't use a single Earth station. See
http://www.viasat.com/news/18-million-broadband-gateway-contract-new-eutelsat-ka-band-ka-sat-satellite "eight broadband earth station antennas throughout Europe"

This BTW is Bentley Walker site for existing Ka-Band on Hotbird 6 @13E, only 4 spots compared to proposed Ka-Sat @ 9E, 80+ spots http://www.satsig.net/tooway/tooway-satellite.htm You can see the Irish footprint is poor and that is one of the best satellites for Ireland currently.
Ka-Sat gives an actual dedicated Irish Spot, hotter than Astra 2D.

There will/are be buisness packages (with telephone number pricing) on Tooway. The Modem can do about 45Mbps. Traffic caps are to limit congestion, so you have to pay much more than 10 users price if you want x10 Cap on satellite.

See also http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056065241

Also http://www.satsig.net/tooway/tooway-satellite-uk.htm
http://www.allbusiness.com/media-telecommunications/telecommunications/12269298-1.html

Service expected in April 2011
http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=13439002

nickhilliard

watty wrote: »

Tooway on Ka-Sat should be about 790ms (stable) to Irish Addresses. Add on what ever the regular delay from INEX is...

Incidentally, typical latency across INEX is about 0.3ms for site-to-site traffic, or 0.2ms for local switch traffic. You can see this pretty clearly in the attached graph, which shows site-to-site latency between INEX's points of presence in Telecity and DEG.

Nick Hilliard
CTO, INEX

watty

Yes, I can sometimes get 25ms from Limerick to Galway via Dublin, and 30ms to a server hosted by my own ISP in Dublin.

I wasn't casting any aspersion on INEX Most people's WiFi has x5 to x30 worse performance depending on number of users.

Just pointing to the uninitiated that latency grows the further from home.

An German Satellite Earthstation used by schools in Ireland could have a lower latency to heanet.ie than to a Site in Germany.

Where the Earth Station is, is only a little part of the story.