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Taker's Streak. Will He Keep It?

  • 05-11-2010 2:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭


    Well, the question is fairly obvious. All theorys welcome!

    Edit:// Can a mod edit the poll to finish after 148 days? Slight miscalculation on my part but that should work. Thanks.

    Streak! 56 votes

    Taker Will Go Unbeaten at Wretlemania
    0% 0 votes
    No, he'll be Beaten
    100% 56 votes


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,402 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Unbeaten short of a Cena heel turn (and I doubt that will ever be).


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Nody wrote: »
    Unbeaten short of a Cena heel turn (and I doubt that will ever be).

    This tbh, ant see anyone taking Cena's Streak unless Vince wants to make the internet explode by having Cena break it as he turns heel, however i doubt that will happen anyway. Taker to get to 20-0


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    This tbh, ant see anyone taking Cena's Streak unless Vince wants to make the internet explode by having Cena break it as he turns heel, however i doubt that will happen anyway. Taker to get to 20-0
    Cena's streak? Was Cena not pinned by Orton the year of the Triple Threat with HHH?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Denny M wrote: »
    Cena's streak? Was Cena not pinned by Orton the year of the Triple Threat with HHH?

    well considering i said unless Vince wants Cena to break it id say its far to assume that was a type.

    After HBK x2 inc Retirement, Cena is the only person who hasnt faced Taker at Mania that I think people would believe beating Taker, even Brock Lesnar if they got him back would be less likely unless it was going to start his second long run in the WWE (but that too is unlikely).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    I think he will but I think the wwe will have to throw bigger and better oppenents at him or maybe stipulations that go against the undertaker so fans actually think this could be the year he's defeated and then once again undertaker defies all the odds


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Taker is never going to be remembered for any of his title runs. He'll be remembered for a career where he was never beaten at WrestleMania.

    I'll be truely stunned if he ever gets beaten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Ste7en


    It'll never be beaten nor should it ever be beaten. The only problem WWE will start having is putting him up against credible people who have a chance of beating him. I would love (though it'll never happen) to see them bringing in some big powerhouse Japanese guys and creating some sort of dream matches for Taker to face-off again to keep the streak in jepordy. But like i say, it'll never happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Its all set up for the following:

    CENA comes out as the leader of NEXUS.
    Vince McMahon comes back and is determine to ruin NEXUS so he turns to the only one that can do it, the Undertaker.

    Taker will help because he wants to destroy NEXUS after whats happened

    So it be NEXUS v taker no disqualifcation rules at WW.

    Triple HHH and some one else will come out at WW and help undertaker.
    Taker wins by tombstoning CENA.

    Later in the night taker Tombstones Kane/Bearer and brings him to hell with him and that be the end of Taker!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    WM28 will be Taker's last match, which he'll win and retire 20-0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    WM28 will be Taker's last match, which he'll win and retire 20-0

    Right on the money.

    The last time anyone actually had a chance at breaking the streak was Randy Orton @ WM21. It would've made randy, who was still not 'main-event' at the time. He also had the Legend Killer gimmick. But when he lost, and taker started fighting some more joberoos and the number got too high, nah, it's too late. 20-0, done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    Well if it is gonna be broken, it's not gonna be anyonw who has recently arrives in the WWE. I mean Shawn Michaels tried 2 years in a row and couldn't do it. HBK and Taker are 2 of the best WWE has ever seen. I have to agree that a Cena Heel turn would be perfect for it. But i think this time they are definately gonna go with a heel facing Taker at WM coz the with HBK it was Fan Fave. Vs. Fan Fave.

    If tehy go with the current plan of Wade Barrett Vs. Taker at Wrestlemania, i cant see it being broken. Unless they go foe shock value and have Nexus come in and destroy Taker getting Barrett the win. Who knows, time will tell!!!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,736 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    WM28 will be Taker's last match, which he'll win and retire 20-0


    Yea, I agree with this aswell!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Barratt has talked about the "bigger picture" of nexus, something that they are there to do.
    And its been brought up on the raw before BR with otunga and his line.
    (wait what raw was that? it was either before BR or after...)

    Anyway, they attacking taker was done obviously without kanes consent, or knowledge, and it was definitely more than a random attack that they have done countless other times.
    So obviously wwe has the idea that it will be either cena or barratt.

    Maybe they will feed him barratt this year and keep the nexus angle going all year long and then at wm 28 it will be cena? :P
    talk about a long haul feud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,857 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    He should lose the streak but he won't. The rub it would give an up-and-coming star would be massive. Imagine CM Punk cleanly beating 'Taker and 'Taker offering the handshake in a show of respect afterwards - it would put Punk over the top as a genuine main event star for the rest of the decade. If it happened this year then 'Taker could get his win back next year and still bow out on a high.

    The right move for business is to have someone end the streak but 'Taker and the WWE are so protective of his "legacy" that it will never end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    If he didn't lose to HBK he won't ever lose the streak


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭johnn


    Ste7en wrote: »
    I would love (though it'll never happen) to see them bringing in some big powerhouse Japanese guys and creating some sort of dream matches for Taker to face-off again to keep the streak in jepordy.

    yeah cause that would mean big buy-rates for the biggest show of the year....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭johnn


    Would love to see him lose it in a dusty finish. would have been great if Hunter had of ran-in last year with the sledgehammer and helped Shawn. Then both gave him crotch-chops to boot, Attitude-era DX back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,218 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Have him tap out to the masterlock. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭chordtype


    It's gonna really be Taker's big legacy so I'd say no. That said, the rub that it would give someone would be immense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,534 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    he won't, but he should.

    as others have said, he should've given it up to Orton. that was the time, and they chickened out.

    plus, i'm not even convinced the Streak 'draws' for WM.

    a heel Cena is the only one that could do it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭johnn


    SlickRic wrote: »
    he won't, but he should.

    as others have said, he should've given it up to Orton. that was the time, and they chickened out.

    plus, i'm not even convinced the Streak 'draws' for WM.

    a heel Cena is the only one that could do it.

    There was something about that match with Orton that didn't feel right, didn't really feel like one of the monumental moments in wrestling was about to happen so i'm glad they didn't waste it there or we wouldn't have had the epics with Shawn, which I think having the streak involved made the story much better. The Orton match was bizarrely first or second on that WM card i believe.

    The years that annoy me though are when he takes on the likes of Mark Henry who are never in a million years going to beat him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I'm not convinced someone should end it. Orton's problem when he faced Taker was that he had flopped badly as a babyface a couple of months beforehand. I think Edge would have been a good candidate a few years back when he had his own unbeaten run going.

    What would worry me about giving the rub to someone is that they could decide that wrestling isn't for them, as happened with Lesnar who got quite a big boost by beating Taker in the Cell match.

    I like the idea of teasing a heel turn for Cena in the run up to a match with him and Taker at Mania. People would then buy the PPV to see if Cena fully turns by cheating to beat Taker. If the plan is Taker vs Barrett it will be a major challenge to convince people that Barrett has a chance of winning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I can see him getting to 20-0, and after the match someone cashes in MITB against him he wins. Taker gets to 20-0, while someone still gets the rub of beating the Deadman at WM. Win win. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I can see him getting to 20-0, and after the match someone cashes in MITB against him he wins. Taker gets to 20-0, while someone still gets the rub of beating the Deadman at WM. Win win. :pac:

    thats a win-Lose.

    If he had someone cash in against him and he won, then he would effectively go from 20-0 to 21-0 in one year. 3.gif now that would be a win-win!
    (especially if it was like dolph ziggler or the miz who would be an absolute frup-turd for trying to cash it in against taker.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    CMpunked wrote: »
    thats a win-Lose.

    If he had someone cash in against him and he won, then he would effectively go from 20-0 to 21-0 in one year. 3.gif now that would be a win-win!
    (especially if it was like dolph ziggler or the miz who would be an absolute frup-turd for trying to cash it in against taker.)

    True, but you know what I mean, I'm sure they would spin it in a way that dismisses someone cashing in as not a real match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    True, but you know what I mean, I'm sure they would spin it in a way that dismisses someone cashing in as not a real match.

    I could see a lot of confusion stemming from that scenario.
    It is possible that they could go down that way at some point, the surprise element finish to matches seems to be going pretty well these days.

    Like look at the end of the Barratt/orton match when cena got orton DQ'd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    or miz could try cash it in this year, after taker beats someone else....meaning when he beats miz he can retire at this years mania 20-0!! (its hard to see him lasting another year even with his limited travel schedule)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    or miz could try cash it in this year, after taker beats someone else....meaning when he beats miz he can retire at this years mania 20-0!! (its hard to see him lasting another year even with his limited travel schedule)

    and then he retires and takes miz to hell.
    Miz returns after WM with a big emo/goth character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    i hope he retires with his streak i think he has earned it and lets face it thats what we will remember about taker if anyone was going to break it should have hbk imo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    How many times in the last few years has taker been challenged to his streak?

    I think this year it should be taker to issue the challenge.
    That isnt in the way of winning the Royal Rumble.


    Which makes me think it has to be barratt he goes after.
    Probably costing him the match at RR against miz/cena.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    Santino will make Taker tap out at WM this year...wwe is obviously pushing Santino these days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭deanodrummer


    Not even in question guys. It'll never be broken. In fact I find the streak quite boring now. Even last year with HBK it was a good wrestling match no doubt, but the outcome was never in question, which detracted from it quite a lot. Gave it an exhibitiony feel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Not even in question guys. It'll never be broken. In fact I find the streak quite boring now. Even last year with HBK it was a good wrestling match no doubt, but the outcome was never in question, which detracted from it quite a lot. Gave it an exhibitiony feel.

    That's exactly right. Nobody believed HBK would break the streak, and WM26 did a (relatively) poor buyrate - 885,000. Seeing the same match two years in a row, without any big celebrity endorsement, they dropped 75,000 from last years'.

    I wonder who they'll get this year. To my mind, he only has two matches left, and only two big-drawing matches -vs John Cena and vs Sting.

    I don't think anyone will buy for a second that Miz or Barrett actually has a chance of beating Taker. The match might be great (like the finish of the Lawler/Miz ladder match) but getting people to plonk down money for it.......nah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    But thats just the thing.
    Imagine the unbelievable impact someone like Miz or Wade beating him?

    I would love if the E went down that route. Instead of having him keep it, or an already big name winning it. It wont ever happen, as these days big pushes from winning certain achievements such as the RR or Kotr can last a mere few weeks. :(


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,402 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    CMpunked wrote: »
    But thats just the thing.
    Imagine the unbelievable impact someone like Miz or Wade beating him?
    What impact? No one will believe them as real challenges and if they would do it would end up being a TNAesque swerve rather than a big push and it is all wasted.

    Let’s be honest here; there are only a very limited group of people who realistically could be seen to challenge the Undertaker’s streak and in the top of that list is Cena and HHH. New stars would not be pushed as new stars by beating him; it is simply not seen as realistic because they are not main eventers for years yet and hence will not get a proper rub off from it. This excludes the WWE booking in general would have the new star jobbing to Santino in the next quarter as well…


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,454 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    WM28 will be Taker's last match, which he'll win and retire 20-0

    If it is he should retire with the streak unbeaten


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    To my mind, he only has two matches left, and only two big-drawing matches -vs John Cena and vs Sting.

    I don't think anyone will buy for a second that Miz or Barrett actually has a chance of beating Taker. The match might be great (like the finish of the Lawler/Miz ladder match) but getting people to plonk down money for it.......nah.

    My latest hunch for Wrestlemania is Undertaker v Nexus in a 7-on-1 handicap match.

    Your right Jay, nobody will believe that Barrett can beat Undertaker......... on his own. But with all 7 members of Nexus in the match (assuming Skip Sheffield is good to go by then) it might get a lot of casual fans thinking "wow 7-on-1? Undertaker has no chance, I gotta by this PPV" Of course us smart persons of the wrestling industry (:cool:) know that Taker won't lose.

    I think they will save Taker/Cena for Taker's match #20

    And they did kind of tease something to do with a Nexus/Taker feud at the buried alive match he had with Kane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭Degag


    Charisteas wrote: »
    My latest hunch for Wrestlemania is Undertaker v Nexus in a 7-on-1 handicap match.

    Your right Jay, nobody will believe that Barrett can beat Undertaker......... on his own. But with all 7 members of Nexus in the match (assuming Skip Sheffield is good to go by then) it might get a lot of casual fans thinking "wow 7-on-1? Undertaker has no chance, I gotta by this PPV" Of course us smart persons of the wrestling industry (:cool:) know that Taker won't lose.

    I think they will save Taker/Cena for Taker's match #20

    And they did kind of tease something to do with a Nexus/Taker feud at the buried alive match he had with Kane.
    I don't think it will be a 7 on 1 match. If Nexus lost, it would destroy them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Degag wrote: »
    I don't think it will be a 7 on 1 match. If Nexus lost, it would destroy them.

    Maybe the stip or tag line of the match could be if Nexus lose then they must disband. WM would be a nice place to bring the Nexus to an end IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Degag wrote: »
    I don't think it will be a 7 on 1 match. If Nexus lost, it would destroy them.
    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Maybe the stip or tag line of the match could be if Nexus lose then they must disband. WM would be a nice place to bring the Nexus to an end IMO.

    Or if Nexus lose, then the next night on Raw (or Smackdown), Wade Barrett is fired or quits Nexus. That would enable him to break free on his own as a main-eventer, whilst the rest of Nexus continue to gain experience as group members, and maybe recruit a new leader. Thus, not totally destroying them.

    I don't really want to see Nexus disbanding anytime soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Maybe the stip or tag line of the match could be if Nexus lose then they must disband. WM would be a nice place to bring the Nexus to an end IMO.

    Nexus won't last 2010 if this storyline keeps the way it's going :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    In regards to making Taker lose seem more believable I reckon they should do the retirement stip on Taker so that if Taker loses he has to hangs up his boots. There is always speculation every year that Taker will retire after Mania so why not play into that and make it a part of the storyline. In fact if he hinted out of character that he was thinking of retiring then I reckon it would lead to a big buyrate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,534 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    my opinion hasn't fundamentally changed; i believe it would be a waste if the Streak remained intact.

    i know Cena doesn't need it, but to get a heel turn over, it would be fúcking awesome.

    the only other person who could carry off beating the Streak right now, is Punk. it would set him up for the next decade.

    WWE would have a guy who can cut a promo, put on a main-event level match, and help to carry the company into the future. he could be that good.

    Sheamus, no.

    Barrett, hell no.

    Orton, too late.

    Lesnar, no (if it happens).

    Miz, fúck no; stab me in the eye if that happens.


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