Absolute thieving scum mechanics.

yupyup7up

Today I was quoted €200 to change rear drum shoes and a bushing on an E11 corolla by 2 different mechanics. Rang a garage around the corner, €90, sorted.
I hope those bastards go out of business, trying to absolutely scam people. I feel sorry for all the unsuspecting people that theyve burned...

I got a toasted sandwich and a large tea for €5 in a cafe in Paul Street in Cork, would be the guts of a tenner in O Briens, are O Briens absolute thieving scum ?

CiniO

yupyup7up wrote: »

Today I was quoted €200 to change rear drum shoes and a bushing on an E11 corolla by 2 different mechanics. Rang a garage around the corner, €90, sorted.
I hope those bastards go out of business, trying to absolutely scam people. I feel sorry for all the unsuspecting people that theyve burned...

It's just because people are not shopping around.
Some people just go to random garage, and accept price, or doesn't even ask about price before job.

I wrote here on this forum, that when I wanted to fit and balance 4 tyres to my car (30 minutes job) I was quoted in few different places prices between 30 and 100 euros.
Where does that difference comes from?

yupyup7up

RoverJames wrote: »

I got a toasted sandwich and a large tea for €5 in a cafe in Paul Street in Cork, would be the guts of a tenner in O Briens, are O Briens absolute thieving scum ?

are cars sandwiches? I think the average person would know if they are getting ripped for a sandwich and a cup of tea. I suspect they might be slighty less knowledgeable whens it comes to the inner workings of car. smartar$e

EL_Loco

shop around,
let the buyer beware,
always get 3 quotes,
etc.

/thread.

yupyup7up

CiniO wrote: »

It's just because people are not shopping around.
Some people just go to random garage, and accept price, or doesn't even ask about price before job.

I wrote here on this forum, that when I wanted to fit and balance 4 tyres to my car (30 minutes job) I was quoted in few different places prices between 30 and 100 euros.
Where does that difference comes from?

yeah it's true, but its also sheer lunacy if you ask me. People still think it's ok to fork out for something before shopping around. I think it's madness that there is no regulation stopping the everyday regular person from being ripped off left right and centre.

Tigger

i made my own sandwich it cost €75

djimi

yupyup7up wrote: »

yeah it's true, but its also sheer lunacy if you ask me. People still think it's ok to fork out for something before shopping around. I think it's madness that there is no regulation stopping the everyday regular person from being ripped off left right and centre.

Anyone who accepts the first quote they get before shopping around deserves to be ripped off in my opinion. That goes for everything, not just car maintenance.

robtri

yupyup7up wrote: »

Today I was quoted €200 to change rear drum shoes and a bushing on an E11 corolla by 2 different mechanics. Rang a garage around the corner, €90, sorted.
I hope those bastards go out of business, trying to absolutely scam people. I feel sorry for all the unsuspecting people that theyve burned...

the two different mechanics who quoted €200.00
can you tell us the break down of the quote please...
i.e parts costs, labour hours, cost per hour, where the parts OEM or supurious...

And likewise for the mechanic who quoted €90.00


also what are the set ups like.... i.e what type of garages do they operate from????

Tigger

yupyup7up wrote: »

yeah it's true, but its also sheer lunacy if you ask me. People still think it's ok to fork out for something before shopping around. I think it's madness that there is no regulation stopping the everyday regular person from being ripped off left right and centre.

the tyre thing is different
they were punishing, for want of a better word, you for buying the tyres elsewhere

but shop around is still the answer i'm a reatailler and i see people shop around more that ever which is great as i was always propperly priced and now people see that

good business will survive this bad will faill but they will struggle on the way down

yupyup7up

robtri wrote: »

the two different mechanics who quoted €200.00
can you tell us the break down of the quote please...
i.e parts costs, labour hours, cost per hour, where the parts OEM or supurious...

And likewise for the mechanic who quoted €90.00


also what are the set ups like.... i.e what type of garages do they operate from????

both independent garages. both getting the parts from the same place. Apparently brake shoes a bushing and a bottle of brake fluid costs €110 according to joker number 1.

The other guys was straight up. He said around 25-30 for shoes, 2-3 for bushing and then the labour on top.

cantdecide

Two identical quotes and a third that was half the price? I think the third guy simply knew soemthing the first two didn't.

They're probably over-priced because of lazy parts searches. That in itself wouldn't make them thieving scum.

yupyup7up

yupyup7up wrote: »

2-3 for bushing .

What bushing costs only €2/€3 ? The rubbers than exhausts hang off cost more than that.

EPM

yupyup7up wrote: »

both independent garages. both getting the parts from the same place. Apparently brake shoes a bushing and a bottle of brake fluid costs €110 according to joker number 1.

The other guys was straight up. He said around 25-30 for shoes, 2-3 for bushing and then the labour on top.

I see the cheaper guy isn't doing as much work, maybe not all the difference but worth noting.

JustAddWater

Yeah

that may be true but if you're in business you have GOT to find the cheapest supplier, otherwise you will find yourself having to price yourself out of the market or end up with huge costs and unable to survive

If one guy can source parts, and if the others are in any way clever in their trade, they'll find a similar supplier. If they dont then they deserve to go out of business

cantdecide wrote: »

Two identical quotes and a third that was half the price? I think the third guy simply knew soemthing the first two didn't.

They're probably over-priced because of lazy parts searches. That in itself wouldn't make them thieving scum.

yupyup7up

EPM wrote: »

I see the cheaper guy isn't doing as much work, maybe not all the difference but worth noting.

this could also be true, but I asked him to change the rear brake drums and the bushing, nothing else. So he's being a bollox by charging to do more work than I asked.

yupyup7up

yupyup7up wrote: »

smartar$e

:rolleyes:

Did you mention to the two chaps who quoted you €200 that they are absolute thieving scum by the way ?

I thought not

guil

yupyup7up wrote: »

this could also be true, but I asked him to change the rear brake drums and the bushing, nothing else. So he's being a bollox by charging to do more work than I asked.

brake drums and brake shoes are 2 different things, if ya made a bollox of telling them what ya wanted done how can ya blame them

johnos1984

Possibly, and I'm not making an excuse for the high price, the other two garages were going to do a good job using the best parts so that in the long run you would be better off.

Just a thought, just because something is cheaper doesn't always make it better.

Plug

Well said guil. Brake drums are expensive enough OP.

Plug

Some indy garages will use only genuine parts, maybe thats what they do.

Anan1

yupyup7up wrote: »

smartar$e

Please make your point without resort to personal abuse.

robtri

yupyup7up wrote: »

both independent garages. both getting the parts from the same place. Apparently brake shoes a bushing and a bottle of brake fluid costs €110 according to joker number 1.

The other guys was straight up. He said around 25-30 for shoes, 2-3 for bushing and then the labour on top.

where the first two for OEM parts????

Do you mean by independant garages, they where car sales palces with proper service facilties?

the cheaper guy was he an independant gargage? or a back street mechanic...

JustAddWater

Then its catch 22

Is the low price garage actually using quailty parts or is the high priced garage using quality parts?

Its an argument that cant be won!

One will argue cheaper is better and the other that quality is better. The customer demads both!

johnos1984 wrote: »

Possibly, and I'm not making an excuse for the high price, the other two garages were going to do a good job using the best parts so that in the long run you would be better off.

Just a thought, just because something is cheaper doesn't always make it better.

yupyup7up

guil wrote: »

brake drums and brake shoes are 2 different things, if ya made a bollox of telling them what ya wanted done how can ya blame them

I actually said shoes for the back brakes. I just wrote the wrong thing there by accident.

They were using spurious parts from a local motor factors.

@Anan1 I created this thread to vent my frustration, not to have people making stupid comments to get "thanks", hence the insult..

they were all independent service facilities.

Fighting Irish

yupyup7up wrote: »

Today I was quoted €200 to change rear drum shoes and a bushing on an E11 corolla by 2 different mechanics. Rang a garage around the corner, €90, sorted.
I hope those bastards go out of business, trying to absolutely scam people. I feel sorry for all the unsuspecting people that theyve burned...

No

Why don't people realise that in the end it's the customers that set the prices

Anan1

yupyup7up wrote: »

@Anan1 I created this thread to vent my frustration, not to have people making stupid comments to get "thanks", hence the insult..

1. If you think a comment's stupid then say why. Insulting the person who made it gives the impression that you can't.

2. If you've an issue with moderation then by all means PM me, but don't argue about it on-thread.

Damie

yupyup7up wrote: »

@Anan1 I created this thread to vent my frustration, not to have people making stupid comments to get "thanks", hence the insult..

yupyup7up - save your breath, for some reason the cavalry always descend if RJ is "attacked"...just check thru his post history, happens more than once or twice:rolleyes:

CyberGhost

Well, that's nothing new.

One girl I know had her timing belt on Toyota Yaris changed, cost her 150 euro.....





























Toyota Yaris has a chain.

Tigger

CyberGhost wrote: »

Well, that's nothing new.

One girl I know had her timing belt on Toyota Yaris changed, cost her 150 euro.....
Toyota Yaris has a chain belt.

a chain belt you say

did she get a receipt?

Anan1

Damie wrote: »

yupyup7up - save your breath, for some reason the cavalry always descend if RJ is "attacked"...just check thru his post history, happens more than once or twice:rolleyes:

You are all free to make your points as well as you can, but without recourse to personal abuse. If you've an issue with my moderation then PM me, don't bring it up on-thread. Final warning -next time it's a week off.

I've been accused of many things in my time here, but favouring RoverJames is a first.:D

johnos1984

In fairness RJ makes useful as well as humorous posts rather than a lot of the usual humorless rubbish which gets posted or taken up wrong.

CyberGhost

Tigger wrote: »

a chain belt you say

did she get a receipt?

Nope.

Damie

Anan1 wrote: »

You are all free to make your points as well as you can, but without recourse to personal abuse. If you've an issue with my moderation then PM me, don't bring it up on-thread. Final warning -next time it's a week off.

I've been accused of many things in my time here, but favouring RoverJames is a first.:D

Well this is sort of proving my point really:D

Anan1

Damie wrote: »

Well this is sort of proving my point really:D

Damie, PM me if you have an issue with moderation. If you post on that topic here again i'll have no option but to ban you.

Damie

Anan1, PM sent

dr.fuzzenstein

RoverJames wrote: »

I got a toasted sandwich and a large tea for €5 in a cafe in Paul Street in Cork, would be the guts of a tenner in O Briens, are O Briens absolute thieving scum ?

You paid a tenner for coffee and sandwich in O'Briens?
That's cheap|!

Anan1

Anan1 wrote: »

I've been accused of many things in my time here, but favouring RoverJames is a first.:D

Very true I've had my run ins with Anan too I may add, also I have about 15 or so bans / infractions / warnings so how the mod team can be seen to be favouring me is a tad strange. I was called a smartarse because the OP didn't like my post. Not my fault anyone thanked it either.

Back to the OP, I asked already, did you tell the two garages they were absolute thieving scum ?
I also asked you what bushing costs only €3 ish ??????

PS, lads, few quid in the post for the thanks, much appreciated.

Anan1

RoverJames wrote: »

Back to the OP, I asked already, did you tell the two garages they were absolute thieving scum ?

Questioning how 'hard' the OP is in real life doesn't really prove much either way though, does it?

Taking a step back for a moment, it's a difficult one to judge on t'internet. On the one hand, mechanics are often misjudged by punters high on paranoia and low on knowledge/commonsense. On the other hand, i've seen far too many cases of friends being quoted one price and my getting a far lower one after a few minutes on the phone.

Personally, had I had the OP's experience, i'd have suspected it but not said it.

johnos1984

RoverJames wrote: »

Back to the OP, I asked already, did you tell the two garages they were absolute thieving scum ?

I have said something along the lines of that before and not just to garages.

It can go either way. Many times I've been told to **** off while others seemed happy to negotiate. Depends on the place though and how greasy the mechanic your dealing with

As Anan just pointed out you need to know what your talking about, or at the very least you need to LOOK like you know what your talking about