Strange company offers billions to British Government

Sykk

Lord James of Blackheath: At this point, I am going to have to make a very big apology to my noble friend Lord Sassoon [Treasury Minister], because I am about to raise a subject that I should not raise and which is going to be one which I think is now time to put on a higher awareness, and to explain to the House as a whole, as I do not think your Lordships have any knowledge of it. I am sorry that my noble friend Lord Strathclyde [Leader of the House] is not with us at the moment, because this deeply concerns him also.
For the past 20 weeks I have been engaged in a very strange dialogue with the two noble Lords, in the course of which I have been trying to bring to their attention the willing availability of a strange organisation which wishes to make a great deal of money available to assist the recovery of the economy in this country. For want of a better name, I shall call it foundation X. That is not its real name, but it will do for the moment. Foundation X was introduced to me 20 weeks ago last week by an eminent City firm, which is FSA controlled. Its chairman came to me and said, "We have this extraordinary request to assist in a major financial reconstruction. It is megabucks, but we need your help to assist us in understanding whether this business is legitimate". I had the biggest put-down of my life from my noble friend Lord Strathclyde when I told him this story. He said, "Why you? You're not important enough to have the answer to a question like that". He is quite right, I am not important enough, but the answer to the next question was, "You haven't got the experience for it". Yes I do. I have had one of the biggest experiences in the laundering of terrorist money and funny money that anyone has had in the City. I have handled billions of pounds of terrorist money.

Baroness Hollis of Heigham [Labour]: Where did it go to?

Lord James of Blackheath: Not into my pocket. My biggest terrorist client was the IRA and I am pleased to say that I managed to write off more than £1 billion of its money. I have also had extensive connections with north African terrorists, but that was of a far nastier nature, and I do not want to talk about that because it is still a security issue. I hasten to add that it is no good getting the police in, because I shall immediately call the Bank of England as my defence witness, given that it put me in to deal with these problems.

The point is that when I was in the course of doing this strange activity, I had an interesting set of phone numbers and references that I could go to for help when I needed it. So people in the City have known that if they want to check out anything that looks at all odd, they can come to me and I can press a few phone numbers to obtain a reference. The City firm came to me and asked whether I could get a reference and a clearance on foundation X. For 20 weeks, I have been endeavouring to do that. I have come to the absolute conclusion that foundation X is completely genuine and sincere and that it directly wishes to make the United Kingdom one of the principal points that it will use to disseminate its extraordinarily great wealth into the world at this present moment, as part of an attempt to seek the recovery of the global economy.

I made the phone call to my noble friend Lord Strathclyde on a Sunday afternoon—I think he was sitting on his lawn, poor man—and he did the quickest ball pass that I have ever witnessed. If England can do anything like it at Twickenham on Saturday, we will have a chance against the All Blacks. The next think I knew, I had my noble friend Lord Sassoon on the phone. From the outset, he took the proper defensive attitude of total scepticism, and said, "This cannot possibly be right". During the following weeks, my noble friend said, "Go and talk to the Bank of England". So I phoned the governor and asked whether he could check this out for me. After about three days, he came back and said, "You can get lost. I'm not touching this with a bargepole; it is far too difficult. Take it back to the Treasury". So I did. Within another day, my noble friend Lord Sassoon had come back and said, "This is rubbish. It can't possibly be right". I said, "I am going to work more on it". Then I brought one of the senior executives from foundation X to meet my noble friend Lord Strathclyde. I have to say that, as first dates go, it was not a great success. Neither of them ended up by inviting the other out for a coffee or drink at the end of the evening, and they did not exchange telephone numbers in order to follow up the meeting.

I found myself between a rock and a hard place that were totally paranoid about each other, because the foundation X people have an amazing obsession with their own security. They expect to be contacted only by someone equal to head of state status or someone with an international security rating equal to the top six people in the world. This is a strange situation. My noble friends Lord Sassoon and Lord Strathclyde both came up with what should have been an absolute killer argument as to why this could not be true and that we should forget it. My noble friend Lord Sassoon's argument was that these people claimed to have evidence that last year they had lodged £5 billion with British banks. They gave transfer dates and the details of these transfers. As my noble friend Lord Sassoon, said, if that were true it would stick out like a sore thumb. You could not have £5 billion popping out of a bank account without it disrupting the balance sheet completely. But I remember that at about the same time as those transfers were being made the noble Lord, Lord Myners [former Labour Treasury Minister], was indulging in his game of rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic of the British banking community. If he had three banks at that time, which had had, say, a deficiency of £1.5 million each, then you would pretty well have absorbed the entire £5 billion, and you would not have had the sore thumb stick out at that time; you would have taken £1.5 billion into each of three banks and you would have absorbed the lot. That would be a logical explanation—I do not know.

My noble friend Lord Strathclyde came up with a very different argument. He said that this cannot be right because these people said at the meeting with him that they were still effectively on the gold standard from back in the 1920s and that their entire currency holdings throughout the world, which were very large, were backed by bullion. My noble friend Lord Strathclyde came back and said to me that he had an analyst working on it and that this had to be stuff and nonsense. He said that they had come up with a figure for the amount of bullion that would be needed to cover their currency reserves, as claimed, which would be more than the entire value of bullion that had ever been mined in the history of the world. I am sorry but my noble friend Lord Strathclyde is wrong; his analysts are wrong. He had tapped into the sources that are available and there is only one definitive source for the amount of bullion that has ever been taken from the earth's crust. That was a National Geographic magazine article 12 years ago. Whatever figure it was that was quoted was then quoted again on six other sites on the internet—on Google. Everyone is quoting one original source; there is no other confirming authority. But if you tap into the Vatican accounts—of the Vatican bank--— come up with a claim of total bullion—

Lord De Mauley [Government Whip]: The noble Lord is into his fifteenth minute. I wonder whether he can draw his remarks to a conclusion.

Lord James of Blackheath: The total value of the Vatican bank reserves would claim to be more than the entire value of gold ever mined in the history of the world. My point on all of this is that we have not proven any of this. Foundation X is saying at this moment that it is prepared to put up the entire £5 billion for the funding of the three Is recreation; the British Government can have the entire independent management and control of it—foundation X does not want anything to do with it; there will be no interest charged; and, by the way, if the British Government would like it as well, if it will help, the foundation will be prepared to put up money for funding hospitals, schools, the building of Crossrail immediately with £17 billion transfer by Christmas, if requested, and all these other things. These things can be done, if wished, but a senior member of the Government has to accept the invitation to a phone call to the chairman of foundation X—and then we can get into business. This is too big an issue. I am just an ageing, obsessive old Peer and I am easily dispensable, but getting to the truth is not. We need to know what really is happening here. We must find out the truth of this situation.

Source
Video - 2 hours 34 mins in is when he starts.

Possibly the strangest argument I've seen in the house of lords.

tl;dr: Shadow Company says they'll give billions to stabilize the economy for no reason.

Long read and really interesting video, if you have time..

orourkeda

couldnt be arsed reading it

Cuddlesworth

But first they will have to send a bank draft to Nigeria to release the funds.

pablomakaveli

I wonder if the head of the company is a Nigerian Prince.

Nodin

orourkeda wrote: »

couldnt be arsed reading it

tl:cba?

NoHornJan

Arthur Guinness did that in Dublin many years ago.

Voodu Child

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=382

FatherLen

too long. sumarise!!!!

Sykk

FatherLen wrote: »

too long. sumarise!!!!

I did, read the tl;dr version.

orourkeda

Nodin wrote: »

tl:cba?

indeed

thebigbiffo

that's very very strage. but if the brits dont want it, where can i send my bank account no. and sort code?

seriously though, very interesting

Gordon

Sykk wrote: »

I did, read the tl;dr version.

tl;dr = tl;dr

dr.bollocko

But Sykk started the thread.... So now there's nobody to post "what is this I don't even" for me to delete.

AnonoBoy

What a queer fellow.

Sykk

Jaysus nothing serious to come out of this, bunch of lazy fúcks!!

Duggy747

It's probably £17 billion in Monopoly money

mike65

Its only 5 million

youcancallmeal

The total value of the Vatican bank reserves would claim to be more than the entire value of gold ever mined in the history of the world.

:eek:

Sod'o swords

I read it, and found it very interesting.

ejmaztec

Sod'o swords wrote: »

I read it, and found it very interesting.

I didn't read it, but that whole bunch of words is like poetry to the eyes. So many fucking words, pure literary nectar.

Sod'o swords

ejmaztec wrote: »

I didn't read it, but that whole bunch of words is like poetry to the eyes. So many fucking words, pure literary nectar.

Isn't it just. Usually i don't read many of the long OP's in AH's because they're muck but the title and the name of the main speaker 'Lord James of Blackheath' had me interested.

The way he addresses other lords and such characters is also musing.

Augmerson

Watched for 16 mins then said "**** this."

Sykk

Augmerson wrote: »

Watched for 16 mins then said "**** this."

You were meant to skip into it.. Re read post.

nobby grande

Could be Opus Dei, Could be yer wan from limerick who the euro millions. Could be The chinese government.

But i think its actually yer man who owns Man City gone power mental.

strobe

Very interesting, very bizarre. I wonder if anything else will ever be heard of it again whatever turns out to be going on.

maximoose

That is quite peculiar alright. Interesting read

Lumen

Wikipedia covers it. They're scammers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control

Sykk

Lumen wrote: »

Wikipedia covers it. They're scammers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control

How do you know it's them? "Foundation X" is the codename, no other was mentioned

ldxo15wus6fpgm

Lumen wrote: »

Wikipedia covers it. They're scammers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control

Come on now, Wikipedia isn't the most reliable resource. Would you really believe what's written there over research done by members of the house of lords?

My name is URL

Looks like the mainstream media are starting to pick up on this - http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Foundation-X-Lord-James-Of-Blackheath-Tells-Sky-News-Group-Could-Pay-Off-Billions-Of-UK-Debt/Article/201011115795267?lpos=Politics_Top_Stories_Header_4&lid=ARTICLE_15795267_Foundation_X%3A_Lord_James_Of_Blackheath_Tells_Sky_News_Group_Could_Pay_Off_Billions_Of_UK_Debt

He goes into some detail in the video..

Princess Peach

I wish a strange company would give me some money

smk89

How great would it be if foundation x turned out to be the National Bank of Nigeria

stepbar

We need the money.... Let's send a trade mission to wherever "foundation x's" offices are! Lol

squod

I found myself between a rock and a hard place that were totally paranoid about each other, because the foundation X people have an amazing obsession with their own security. They expect to be contacted only by someone equal to head of state status or someone with an international security rating equal to the top six people in the world

Who are the top six people in the world?

x in the city

Sykk wrote: »

Source
Video - 2 hours 34 mins in is when he starts.

Possibly the strangest argument I've seen in the house of lords.

tl;dr: Shadow Company says they'll give billions to stabilize the economy for no reason.

Long read and really interesting video, if you have time..

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kiss my shiny metal ass if you think i will read that bollocks

squod

x in the city wrote: »

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kiss my shiny metal ass if you think i will read that bollocks

The short version

A shadowy organisation has apparently offered to lend the UK £75bn to clear the national debt and "help save the world", a peer has told Sky News.

PanchoVilla

TL;DR version:

The people who fabricated the latest global economic disaster need to launder the billions they made from this massive larceny so they are trying to inject their vast fortunes back into the world's economies. The world's wealthy elite are playing a big game of monopoly and someone's trying to cheat.

DOC09UNAM

What is this I don't even

x in the city

squod wrote: »

The short version

**** that, still couldnt give a flying fluck

squod

x in the city wrote: »

**** that, still couldnt give a flying fluck

Would you give one lying down?

argosy2006

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3578190769_581bf72445_z.jpg?zz=1

markesmith

Oh, come on, let's stop avoiding the obvious elephant in the room.

It's Russia!

Misanthrope

I think this might be a sneaky attempt to corner the gold market.Look at what's being claimed.That this "Foundation X" has managed to secretly hoard at least as much gold as is currently thought to exist.(Clearly they weren't paying any taxes anywhere).

And now they want to simply give this to Britain.This would at least double the the worlds accepted goal total if the British government accepted the proposal.Logically gold prices would plummet to who knows how low.

Cue the the big player to step in and clean up.

Giving a sweetener/hook of 5 billion, even 20 billion would be well worthwhile considering the potential killing to be made here.I know Goldman Sachs have that kind of money and are already the largest volume gold trader in the world.

General General

I think these guys are the same guys that are behind the massive offer of cheese to the Irish government.