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Dividing up large family home between my parents and my family. Advice needed.

  • 04-11-2010 12:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    My partner and I recently moved back to my hometown and my parents have kindly offered to divide up the family home if we would consider moving in and completing the renovations etc.
    Its a large 8 bed detached with loads of space so its quite possible for everyone to be happy even if we are a little apprehensive, but it makes sense for us for a number of reasons.
    I would like to start planning it and to see it down on paper before we make the plunge.
    Should I get an architect or builder to come with the ideas? Friends have suggested that a builder would have a more practical view and that an architect could be very expensive and not as helpful/open minded as to our needs etc etc. How much would an architect cost approx?
    I would think that some additional building will be needed, is 25 sq ms the maximum allowed without PP? Would PP take long to be approved approx?:(

    Anyone else out there who has taken on a similiar project?
    Any help or advice appreciated?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,064 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Planning would probably 8 weeks, the max that you can build without 40 sq.m, this is the total of all previous extensions (with and without planning) not just the max you are adding now.

    As for dividing up the house, its pretty difficult to give an opinion without being able to look at plans. But;
    A builder's opinion only is often what is easiest, not what is best.
    you should be able to get some quotes from various architects without committing to anything. At least then you will be better aimed to make your mind up. No point specualting what it will cost.
    Another option is a good local architectural technician.
    Another option would be a goo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,730 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    If you are making 2 dwellings from one, you will need planning anyway.
    ONe thing I would advise is to only do this if parents are prepared to actually sign over your part of the property. Dont let these thing slide specially if pumping cash into the project.
    If you have no idea of the way forward design wise, get an architect. If you know what you want, price around


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mellor wrote: »
    Another option would be a goo

    That's a new one to me? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭patsyrockem


    Thanks for your help, I'll ask around about local architects, technicians etc. I'm in the early stages, we need to decide what we want in terms of bedrooms, utility etc. I have no construction or building experience so its a bit daunting at the moment but with the right help i hope we can manage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭dan_d


    Architects will often have ideas you wouldn't think of. And many will draw up the planning permission documents for you too, which a builder usually won't do.

    Sometimes architects do have little pet details they like to include in their designs (!). If you don't like them, TELL THEM!! It's your house after all. Don't be afraid to engage them on what you want, their word is not law on the design. However they will probably do a much better job than a builder, or you by yourself...it's what they're trained to do. They're good to bounce your own ideas off aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Lantus


    Dividing the house may affect various elements especially if they will be classed as two seperate dwellings with two seperate entrances. Issues may include: -

    1/ Fire seperation and escape routes. Are you adding another kitchen?
    2/ Entrance of gas, elec, telecoms and other utilities. If new connections need to be made than this can be very expensive.
    3/ Electrical wiring and seperation.
    4/ Heating system and controls.


    I would certainly consult a builder but you may need the help of qualified professionals like an architect to draw up plans, solve planning and logistical problems and ensure the new dwellings are safe for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭patsyrockem


    Thanks everyone for all your suggestions, we are going to go ahead, on the search for a local architect now. Just wondering has anyone any experience regarding the legal duties and tax liabilities regarding handing over part of the house? Hope to meet with the bank in the next week or so. Should'nt have any trouble getting money from them but who knows??


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